prescriptive gender roles therein are probably totally obvious but just sayin
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I've only skimmed those books and yeah, lol gender prescriptivism. But aren't both of them kind of Boy Scout/Girl Guide-oriented? I don't think the girls' book is all "How to Change A Diaper" or anything.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Really the boys' book should include "How to Wash Your Own Sheets (Believe me, you'll thank us)".
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the girls book is more like "here are some basic ciphers so you can trade secret gossipy messages with your girlfriends"?
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
karate moves, cartwheels, building a campfire, and yes--how to change a tire are all in the girls one
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061472573/ref=s9_simp_gw_s0_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1VVYMQVTA98H5828CRZ1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846#reader_0061472573
I think both of these books sound awesome by the way--if I was a kid, I would be all over them
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
My dog found this one to be a pandering disappointment:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51E2FYZhbOL._SS500_.jpg
― mascara and ties (Abbott), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp Well, "huh" to gossip subtext but codes themselves are pretty cool. Oh look, Que confirms it. I sort of liked the books -- obv purposefully "of another time"-looking but that is kind of cool stuff even if it IS fake nostalgia about a post-war, road-tripping, outdoors-exploring, birthing-new-Americans generation.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
learning how to build a scooter is timeless, imho
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I know, my dad built one out of a bicycle frame and some small engine when he was like 15? And then went on to have Vespas and later, cars that he rebuilt. I mean, why was I not that awesome at 15? I had a dune buggy, I guess, but I didn't built it myself.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
ok u had a dune buggy???
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
?????
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i will remember this next time u r complaining abt something on this bord
Yeah, as my first car. Orange frame, no body panels, street legal, 4 seats. Engine & transmission out of a VW bus. I drove it spring & summer for a couple of years. And the family took it dune-running in an approved "park" nearby. Learned to drive a stick in that thing, which was awesome b/c it was geared for a whole VAN and the buggy weighed nothing, so actually it was very forgiving.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, sometimes Christians have fun too.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Just not too often, or they might get used to it.
gdamn i dreamed of dune buggies
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
just enough to let them know what heaven might be like
― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
wife tells me her dad did similar, just sub vw bug for the bus
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
But even w a windshield, the wind speed was BRUTAL over about 35 or 40 mph, so it was just for tooling around locally. Funny, I never tried wearing a helmet....
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
M, is your wife Midwestern/conservative in her origins, too?
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
texas, but her dad is pretty conservative
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://mjmbooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Speed-Buggy.jpg
so jealous that Laurel's first car could talk and solve mysteries
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost her dad is just a total gearhead. both her parents are bikers, and he's a wrecker driver by trade.
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit i forgot about fucking speed buggy until just now
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
that seems like an experience one would remember forever
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL. adjective/modifier, not verb
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to write a book about spending a year trying to learn to do all of the things in all of those 100 things a man should know how to do books.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
1. How to fuck a talking dune buggy
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
but would any man just happen to know how to do all those things if those lists did not exist? "you have been judged and found wanting, sissypants" is the subtext i get there
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Kind of? Then again, remember the pic you posted of you having to tie a friend's tie? See, he should know how to do that.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel dumb when i don't know how to do something
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
And not to get way Fight Club or anything, but there are a lot of fatherless men out there who didn't exactly take up the mantle of "man of the house.'
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Myself very much among them.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's more like "you've been judged and found wanting, human being"
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
can change a tire, can't tie a tie
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
and I'm fully ok w/ that b/c ties are constricting in the neckal area
can barely do either one, myself. didn't know how to tie a tie until i was like 28? 29?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
the idea that i should know how to split logs for firewood or hang drywall just because i have a dick AND that my masculinity should be called into question for wanting that knowledge is just weird -- i can learn how if and when the need arises!
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
learn how to tie a tie ffs
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
its like really easy
it has nothing to do with your dick elmo
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
well splitting logs can, but it's really difficult
― everyone stop (dan m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh. Maybe my Christian-y childhood came in handy in this one way. When I got old enough that a clip-on became unseemly, Dad showed me the standard half-Windsor, and now it's like tying my shoes.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
tieing, even
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Splitting logs for firewood is actually rather fun. From what I've heard, hanging drywall is less so.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Linden Avenue Stomp
yeah it's sounds kinda. . .hard
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah seriously - the drywall in my apartment is already hung, and using firewood here would be a bit dangerous.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
wait