fuck it, let's blame all this bullshit on Fight Club
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
eh why do that when can blame it on feminism and vote republican for the rest of our lives
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
"you are not your goddamn khakis"
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
real men use plastic forks! what are you supposed to do during the Real Man (TM) activity of BBQing????
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
use big steel fuck-off ones, that's if you just don't use mammoth tusks.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
man all these years i might has well have been holding my BBQ tongs with my vagina : (
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
how the hell does one BBQ with a plastic fork???????
men, we are all doomed
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
metal forks are best if you have a lady to wash them and can thus avoid the castrating effects of dishwater
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
you BBQ with steel implements of doom
you eat BBQ with yr goddamned BARE HANDS
rawr
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
surely you chain saw the meat into pieces before shoving the whole lot into your mouth together with some charcoal with your bare hands
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
lol Dan grocery shopping is women's work
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Nobody's copping to their pants.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
you don't actually cook the meat, by the way, you just want to eat the hot charcoal and have the meat cooked inside your stomach
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dude I mean eating like your potato salad and baked beans with a plastic fork...i mean who wants to bring actual silverware to the park???
wearing women's panties right now tbh
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Worrying about silverware is not a man's job!
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images18/ChihuahuaViansBigMacAttackMac3.JPG
RAWR
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you eat cous cous with a fork anyway?
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't understand why they are using the Levis design manual and then not putting a brand name in? It is just a free ad, for Levis, by someone else?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's dockers, same company
― harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a lot to learn about being a man.
RAWR.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Its not an ad, it's from their website:
http://www.us.dockers.com/season/landing.aspx
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
wait I thought khakis were for pussies...
jesus i came to work feeling like ray lewis and i'm gonna leave feeling like klaus nomi.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i eat my food off the floor, sometimes out of a bowl. . . if i'm feeling fancy. . . otherwise, it's off the floor
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
feelings are for women, matt
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I just punched a deer in the face.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i piss in the woods and shake hands with strangers and goddamn it I MAKE EYE CONTACT
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
despite being flawless sometimes i make mistakes deliberately so i can stand up to admit to them.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i taught a bobcat how to whistle the theme from rocky. my workout routine is running for my life every morning to its majestic ersatz trumpet fanfare.
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
My Vietnam Vet dad looks UP to ME godammit
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread is turning into Courage Wolf Part II: The Wrath of Courage Wolf
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I will wear a Claiborne shirt with Calvin Klein pants without even blinking
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
RAwr no what
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
RAWR?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
my workout routine is running for my life every morning to its majestic ersatz trumpet fanfare.wait a secondi've done thisdoes that make me a man?
(note: my name is amanda. when i was a kid people used to say "a man...DUH" and i think that moment is coming full circle for me right now in triumphant manliness)
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
howie long is my mantor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3jUumdgPyw
sigh
― Kate 'Impeach' Bush (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
GodI think the increasing fashion-awareness or image-consciousness in men that is characterized as "feminisation" is actually just a symptom of the broadening reach of consumer capitalism & marketing. someone once said that "metrosexuality" was concocted & encouraged by magazines & advertising because the paradigm of straight men being oblivious to what they wear is bad for business. more straight men today(and not just so-called hipsters) are more concerned about clothing, I believe, but overall perhaps it's just a triumph of marketing.
OR perhaps men are just exposed to way more media than half a century ago, ie, surfing the internet at work instead on the assembly line or something? i don't know just taking wild guesses
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
re: the "There's no more John Wayne's anymore," comment in the Emascualting Truth video. If this statement is true, I seriously don't think the cause lies with chemicals in water / food or whatever but rather in the fact that middle class men today are not being raised to fight in wars? during the world War II / Cold War era, the stakes were such that people just HAD to have a certain toughness that isn't necessary today & thus a certain image of John Wayne masculinity was the ideal, but that was always an extreme to begin with, plus I don't think even John Wayne himself was 100% John Wayne IRL
plus I reckon it's politically incorrect to act in such a way now what with women & gheys having "rights" these days, shucks
I always identified with Jack Kerouac 1000 times more than John Wayne actually
& the Kerouac ad actually kinda makes me want to wear khakis tbh
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Famed metrosexual Marion Morrison, you mean?
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think even John Wayne himself was 100% John Wayne IRL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.glendalehigh.com/images2/johnwayne-1.jpg
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I ate a caesar salad with crab meat for lunch today while wearing brown corduroy trousers and a kicky Missoni cardigan- am I part of the problem here?
I washed it down with an espresso, is that more testicular than a latte for some reason? Or is it Euro-faggy and thus not macho?
(I didn't use a plastic fork though- metal cutlery all the way).
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
single or double espresso?
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
See corduroys and khakis inhabit the same place for me.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
double espresso
for me, its:
corduroy = hipsterkhaki = probably has a job of some kind (Best Buy?)
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
how did indifference to one's appearance become a "masculine" trait, anyway?
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not indifferent to my appearance and I think its ridiculous that people trot out khakis as a synechdoche of that!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Chiming in late here, but one of the interesting things I get from this is not just the evolution of the aspired-to image of masculinity, of being a "proper fella," but the complete inversion of it.
For example, the Starbucks thing; you take the aforementioned previous desired image of men from the 50s/Playboy/Jetset/Bond era, the Clooney/Obama vector, shall we call it. The suave, debonair, cosmopolitan & knowledgeable man. Not just a grown-up, or a teenager 20 years on who's acquired a full golf bag of deficiency-compensating behaviors, but an actual adult with a developed inner self.
Where the postwar jetsetter ideal was the man(James Bond, Cary Grant onscreen, etc) who would easily walk into any cafe either in some deep beatnik enclave or on the Continent and order a vente. You have the image of a man sure of himself; a worldly, well-read fellow who's picked up a bit here and there, rather than the anti-intellectual/homophobic/insecure/reactionary thicko who'd call him faggit for using that term. What was once the apex of masculinity became inverted to the level of the foppish homosexual. (That that 50s man was homophobic as well is an interesting irony)
Key example: shaving kits. I can't find a good magazine advert for a kit, but you get the idea; the concept that a proper adult male cares about what he looks like and makes an effort to look presentable both to the ladies and to the office.
The metrosexual thing just seems like a way to get that idea back into a pop comprehension, as such concerns("who gives a shit if I look like a schlub?!") were deliberately ignored for two decades or more.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link