Rolling Metal Thread 2009

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I've browsed through the thread, but any recommendations this year for a metal dilettante who likes stuff like Gojira's The Way Of All Flesh (technical/progressive death metal, I guess)? I see the Mothra and Ulcerate being compared to Gojira. Any others?

o. nate, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

If you like Gojira, you'll really enjoy France's Hacride. Their last two albums are superb.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks - I will check them out.

o. nate, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i would heartily recommend the ulcerate album. to me, it shares elements with (bits of) blut aus nord, deathspell omega, gorguts and even, in the klangy, chimey interludes, early sonic youth. it SEETHES, furiously trying to suffocate or strangulate itself, then tolls. i think it's great.

(i am from nz and love heaps of music that's come from there, but i never woulda thought it likely a band from nz would produce a great dm album. i think this one is.)

cb, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like something lj would love then

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i reckon he should give it a go, yes. and other people too.

cb, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i wasnt impressed when i heard it but i do have pretty much zero tolerance for death metal

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

it is not gonna win anyone over who doesn't like death metal. the vocals are standard low bark, lyrics whatever. it's all about the writhing, claustrophobic instrumental density juxtaposed with the perfectly judged space and pace of the squamous slow breathers

cb, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

(er. yeah, 'breather' as 'interval, interlude'; i shoulda just said that)

cb, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i have that record. i respect it tho it's a little tech-y for me to listen to for long stretches.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Song title of the day, from the new Arsis record: "Half Past Corpse O'Clock"

metal T-shirt worn over an Oxford (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"arsis uh huh uhuh huh uhuh"
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IiAFcfNAJmA/SqkOCljhPLI/AAAAAAAAA14/wyvsXZBLiHk/s320/bandb.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Ulcerate is definitely working for me on a first listen. And I generally lean heavily towards early 90s DM.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

hey writers/reviewers of ilx you might like this
http://www.teufelstomb.com/reviews/withoutmercy-withoutmercy/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

djmartian should read the middle bit especially :)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

That was shit

Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

If this dude has been writing about metal for 15 years how has he not noticed that like 80% of press releases are exactly like that one

Dark, promiscuous five-year-old (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude shouldn't talk about his girlfriend like that in a review. That's no way to maintain a relationship.

Here's a link to part three of my trawl through the Decibel Top 100 list... http://bit.ly/787X19

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

sound advice

original bgm, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I must say that i am enjoying the hell out of unperson's daily dissection of the Decibel list.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

That review posted above is painful, not to mention atrociously written.

And Phil, you really should hear Ludicra...they're good!

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

They are, but I was a bit disappointed by the new song. Another Weakling throwback was not what I was expecting from these guys (and girls), hopefully the album will have more John Cobbett rifftasticness than this preview.

Chuffed Wiff Morrisound (Thijs), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Listening to three songs from the Charred Walls of the Damned disc - Ripper Owens on vocals, Jason Suecof on guitar, James DiGiorgio on bass and Richard Christy (it's his band) on drums. Power metal, flamboyant and unashamed. Not my thing, but whatever.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - I'm not sure which track Ludicra posted but I've had the new album for many months and it's fantastic. There is one song that is a bit more in the Weakling/WITTR vein so I'm assuming that's the one that you heard? Trust me, there's Cobbett all over this thing. And there's more big news ahead :)

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

is the Ludicra track called "A Larger Silence"? The one posted on Brooklynvegan?

richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Nate's right, the new album is very strong.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

is the Ludicra track called "A Larger Silence"?

That's the one I heard, yup. It's fine, just not the next-level thing I was hoping for. I just did a big USBM piece (in Dutch) saying Ludicra is *the* band to keep an eye on, so they gotta come through big time, ya know ;)

Trust me, there's Cobbett all over this thing. And there's more big news ahead :)

Sweet! So what is it, Scalzi joining the fold, or what?

Chuffed Wiff Morrisound (Thijs), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

No, it's US tour-related.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 10 December 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

(and Canada)

Nate Carson, Thursday, 10 December 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Day Four of my journey through the Decibel best-of-the-decade list may be the most argumentative one yet... http://bit.ly/4YGMhw

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i still think panopticon is every bit as great as Oceanic, Phil. Lots of ilmers agree too.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I on the other hand perhaps predictably co-sign w/Phil 100% on Panopticon

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually like it more than oceanic but would be hard-pressed to argue why. they're very similar but panopticon felt like a refinement of the sound, maybe?

original bgm, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

could just be a matter of context. with oceanic, I was a bit disappointed at the time with how they scaled the heaviness way down from celestial. wasn't expecting much from panopticon but was pleasantly surprised.

original bgm, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

they're pretty much on a par, but maria's vocals on 'the weight' give oceanic the edge.

mind you, my affection for isis has diminished severely of late. the last two albums were shockingly dull.

m the g, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

phil are you gonna do your own decade-end list on yr site? would be much more interesting to me than reading abt what is metal and what is not metal.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

the new isis album is a lot better than Absence Of Truth

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I agree. hated absence of truth but the new one is pretty good.

original bgm, Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i didnt hate i just didnt think it was as good as what preceded it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Oceanic and Wavering Radiant are my two favorite Isis discs. I also like the Oceanic remixes set quite a bit. But my favorite thing about Isis remains my memory of seeing them on tour with Botch in (I think) 2000 (might have been 1999); they were much more experimental than they've ever been on record, or on any of their live discs. At one point, the song they were playing melted down to a theremin/didgeridoo improv duet.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure yet if I'm gonna do a full decade-end list, but I am gonna do something later this month.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Amon Amarth's exclusion from the list I'll give you (I had Twilight of the Thunder God in my top 10), but Megadeth and Judas Priest? Megadeth had one album this decade that came even close to being great (Endgame), and Judas Priest had two incredibly uneven records, neither of which I would have included. I can think of much more shocking omissions.

metal T-shirt worn over an Oxford (J3ff T.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude, if they can find room for Fugazi, they can find room for Nostradamus, which might be uneven but has at least one full disc's worth of killer stuff. I still listen to it. Not weekly by any means, but frequently.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I still don't have the issue yet, so Phil's thorough run-through is helping me realize that there are far too many hardcore titles on a list that does state "metal" on its cover. Though every one of those Converge records should be on there, they're more metal than most metal bands. If that makes sense. But Axe to Fall is definitely the best of the four.

Traditional/melodic metal and doom really did take it on the chin on this list, didn't they? Not right at all.

And it really struck me as puzzling that Miss Machine placed higher than the mind-blowing Ire Works.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there a straight list anywhere of this Decibel countdown? I'd be curious to see the last 20

Bill Magill, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

So I bought the Decibel Precious Metal book for xmas for my work buddy last night, and of course I read as much of it as I could before wrapping it this morning. And in the Opeth section they mention Wishbone Ash upward of a dozen times. So what Wishbone Ash should I check out? I'm always in the market for some good proto-plod-prog.

The 40% or so of the book I managed to read was killer.

vadnais heights is cougartown (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Bill it's posted here The 2009 Magazine Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Jon you gotta check out Wishbone Ash - Argus

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biG5CNlu3dM

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

One thing that seemed a bit lame about the Decibel special issue was reprinting the HoF articles on Jane Doe and Remission, especially since the Converge piece also appeared in Precious Metal. I love these features, but you can only recycle them so many times.

Brad C., Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link


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