i am putting on yesterdays marcus set now for the duration, someone holla if they want to do the same and frolic thru liveblogging fields with me etc...
― r|t|c, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
oops soz i went out to night slugs instead and OMG HUGE DANCEFLOOR MOMENT - you know when you've been dancing to a tune in your bedroom for weeks and then hear it for the first time in a club? ill blu dropped that new dennis ferrer joint w/vivien goldman singing and it was SO GOOD. also someone played the dj naughty "love lockdown" refix later too <3
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 December 2009 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking shittas. missed marcus' show this week. cant be bothered with the shit podcasts though. fucking rinse. was listening to that old show he did with all the mcs from last year tho and that was fucking ruff (anyone still say ruff? i dont care, im old). but i have them spread out over 3 (not sure why) tapes. anyone have a link for that?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
We should reschedule something like this.
Also I really think this thing you said on the grime thread is OTM:
it's funny ingram mentions soul ii soul in remarking on how td and others were unable to to establish fertile collectives - something i've kept muttering on about in the uk funky thread is how it's not entirely so much just a new strain of capital-h house but a prism for the uk to recapture a sense of its own identity - like soul ii soul era brit pirate radio streetsoul culture, or even if you like the early bristol melting pot sound with smith & mighty, wild bunch, and what have you. particularly at the grassroots level that stuff wasnt necessarily less "new configuration, new riff and new structure" type hype rather than indigenous perspective on and juxtaposition of loads of familiar things, often american.
― Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Me on Ill Blu:
http://getphysical.blogspot.com/2009/12/ill-blu-ill-blu-are-without-doubt-years.html
― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome -- & yah i totally see why you wanted me to read this!!
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
& uh holy crap @ "bring it back"
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Lots and lots of great new tracks on this DJ Reflex mix - and interesting how heavy the bass is on so many of them, this feels like a recent development:
http://download694.filefront.com/yjvzdjmxfllg/15088147/DJ+Reflex+Funky+Vol+4.zip
Tracklist: 01. DJ Naughty Ft. Miss Fire - It's You (Reflex Dubplate) 02. Rachel M - Losing Me (Hardhouse Banton Remix) 03. Ill Blu - Blu Magic 04. Todz & Beatz Ft. Chocolate Doll - Cutie 05. Bucie - Your Kiss 06. Princess Nyah - Crazy07. Digital Dubstar Ft. Miss Fire - Can't Say No 08. DJ Naughty Ft. Sacha - I Need Love 09. Kodi Starr - Extortion (Crazy Cousinz)10. Mr Hudson - White Lies (Fuzzy Logik Remix)11. Screama - Funky Gangsta 12. Shanique - Take It Low (Reflex Dubplate) 13. 702 - You Don't Know (4Motion Remix) 14. Cream - Calypso 15. Crazy Cousinz Ft. MC Versatile - Searching For You 16. Illmana Ft. Lady Stush - Ready For De War17. Miss Fire - Woo Haa 18. S-Tee Ft. Sacha - Knockin' At My Door 19. Crazy Cousinz - Sonar20. Miss Fire & Miss Anonymous - Connexion 21. Princess Nyah - Hooligans22. Barber Bizzle Ft. JJ Soul - Got That Something 23. Addictive - Domino Effect (DJ Naughty Remix) 24. S-Tee Ft. Tasha - Touch On Me 25. Miss Fire Ft. JJ Soul - More Love 26. Ill Blu - Money & Girls 27. Ny - Sea Sick (DJ Naughty Remix) - 2-STEP FANS WILL *LOVE* THIS28. Steve Hoang - No Coming Back (Ill Blu Remix)
― Tim F, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
heavy bass in funky? :D
nice ill blu analysis tim.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry i haven't been checking this therad so i hate to interrupt it with a n00b question but
i just ordered marcus nasty's rinse 10. are there any other recent mix CDs i should be checking for?
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 28 December 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
The Ministry of Sound one (The Sound of UK Funky) is the next best. There've been very few officially released mixes so far.
Have a big piece on Dubplate Wonder on the boil.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link
why is it the only funky you can buy on vinyl is largely the leftfield stuff? v dissapointing.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed on 'our father' - best thing roska's ever done for me, but it came out last year right?
Tim, i can see why you say what you (constantly) say re: fact and funky, like if you only read kiran sande's column (which is coming from a house/techno background) and a couple of rogue articles you could be mis-led, but it's really not there to the extent you think it is.
i said this in another thread, but these are the funky/arguably funky tracks in our top 100 of 09:
99. dj mystery - speechless89. crazy cousinz t-shirt remix78. sticky and ms dynamite - bad gyal61. shystie - pull it (ill blu rmx)59. altered natives - rass out58. doneao - party hard49. cooly g - love dub31. kode9 - black sun18. fuzzy logik - in the morning05. ill blu ft. princess nyah - frontline
so that's two ill blu tracks. no roska, no scratcha (i'd have had god made me funky in personally, but whatever).
for what its worth, last year's funky inclusions:
95. african warrior85. siegalizer26. siren02. do you mind
where's the bias towards roska/scratcha/geeneus etc there? they're clearly outnumbered.
― tom lea, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
also amongst all the ill blu hype, we shouldnt forget 'stick up', which they produced and is rubbish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvkrnPHzv90
― tom lea, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
the most criminally overlooked tracks this year for me were prob magic touch productions' "hips" - rudegyal vocal, bit like a response to "party hard" but the backing is smoother, more latinate, more laidback. "ooh! don't take it thurr - if you can't take me thurr!"
who are n10-tainment! have been loving "i pray" all year, which is just gorgeously sparse and pushes all my cassie-fan-club buttons -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dAacQYoquU
- and now looking it up on youtube i find the equally beautiful "takeover" -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbwv5EA0wQ8
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
btw hi tom!
who are n10-tainment
"n10tainm✧✧✧@l✧✧✧.c✧.u✧ for all enquiries", duh.
my god how good is 'i pray'??
― tom lea, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
er, i dunno what happened there. tried to copy the email address from the clip and it went all wingdings.
btw hi alex!
― tom lea, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i have a horribly indie comparison point which keeps springing to mind whenever i put "i pray" on, i don't think i can actually say it out loud ever
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the second half is so nightmarishly weird with its legend of the mystical ninja type sounds and wobbling bass currents. whats yr schmindie comparison?
― tom lea, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
pj harvey - the darker days of me & him
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
or something off white chalk maybe
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i could do without hearing 90& of funky vocal tracks. why arent is the ratio of good to shit better?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
*isnt
that pray track is fantastic. really love those pure sine tone marimbas or whatever that is
― Karen Tregaskin, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ban titchy
― deej, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the most criminally overlooked tracks this year for me were prob magic touch productions' "hips"
Yes! This is terrific, although I thought it was an 08 tune for some reason. There need to be more female MCs in funky.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
ILX ate a post of mine where I explained that I had no problems at all with the FACT Top 100 (it was the XLR8R list that made me le sigh) and that I thought DJ Mystery's "Speechless" was an excellent (even connoisseurial) choice.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
"Wad" is arguably funky too, no?
― art crut (The Reverend), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
what genre is "hot city bass" ?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
marcus and a whole heap of mcs killing it on rinse right now. though not sure for how much longer.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i could def do with hearing more female mcs in funky though, yeah. stush needs to be doing more. dynamite too.
"31. kode9 - black sun"
this track is really overrated. i prefer LDs funky forays to kode 9s so far personally. i dunno if it was this year or last, but LDs remix of kylas do you mind is divine.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Rev, "Wad" is definitely funky.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
black sun is really great i think. ditto the b-side.
marcus was brilliant tonight. there was one dj (the guy before doctor cosmo or whatever) who was brilliant.
― tom lea, Thursday, 31 December 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Me on Dubplate Wonder. If I'm really nice I might even upload the mix of his I talk about a lot in the post, which seems to have gone off the internet.
http://getphysical.blogspot.com/2010/01/dubplate-wonder-dubplate-wonder-and.html
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
wow Tim, you have brought us the future - it's still 2009 here! (not according to the post timezone thingy below)
― Paul, Friday, 1 January 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I should note that I did not spend my new years eve writing about Dubplate Wonder.
That said I also didn't spend it dancing to UK Funky so :-(
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
haha Tim, I was just using Tom's phrase
― art crut (The Reverend), Friday, 1 January 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Well I'd get people being uncertain if it's funky or not (mostly due to Ramandanman's lineage)... But in fact it's much more so than, say, most Bok Bok or Julio Bashmore tunes I reckon. But it's very hard to say why precisely - one of the odd (reynoldsians might say "weak") aspects of funky is that there's no single ultimate litmus test for saying what is or isn't funky (whereas 2-step at least had the 2-step beat itself).
My distinction above is not a criticism of Bok Bok etc. either, or some comment on who is part of the "scene". There's a Wookie remix of (Lex will cringe) Le Roux's "Bulletproof" which I think is marvelous (vocals notwithstanding) and rather similar to the Fingaprint remix of Rudenko's "Everybody" (the virtues of which I have extolled previously) and yet for reasons I can't quite put my finger on (not Le Roux) I'm reluctant to call it funky... (it's def. worth checking though!)
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
one of the odd (reynoldsians might say "weak") aspects of funky is that there's no single ultimate litmus test for saying what is or isn't funky
that's such a strength tho! it means funky can take all sorts of things that weren't originally intended as funky (like "Turn Me On" or "We Belong to the Night" or "Self-Religion") and make them funky by proxy
― art crut (The Reverend), Friday, 1 January 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree! I like r|t|c's image of the genre being suspended in amniotic fluid (though me saying so may cause him to disown it).
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I would think that in general, the more malleable a genre is, the stronger it is. That Reynoldsian line is completely antithetical to my thoughts about genre
― art crut (The Reverend), Friday, 1 January 2010 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
btw, how is the future? do you have a personal jetpack?
― art crut (The Reverend), Friday, 1 January 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm over-simplifying SR obv - it's more like what a reynolds-fan who wanted to use the singularness of jungle etc. as a stick to beat the present would say.
I would not say that malleability automatically equals strength - it's that odd combination of malleability and absolute self-confidence that funky inherits from... what? us hip hop? dancehall?
(maybe this is why I kneejerk don't like the whole "let's dance to dubstep/wonky/funky/etc." movement - can't help but see it as the upmarket equivalent of hollertronix, implying by its self-conscious eclecticism that the individual genres aren't wide-ranging enough on their own - even if that's inaccurate or unfair)
The future is not as tired as it should be after last night.
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's a download link for Dubplate Wonder's Wonderland '09 mix:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r16fnl
― Tim F, Friday, 1 January 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
the (free d/l) new nguzunguzu ep is amazing - need to find out more about these dudes, all i've known so far is that they're affiliates of kingdom http://www.wholeareas.com/
― lex pretend, Saturday, 2 January 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/dec/31/music-tips-for-2010
i can think of several dozen other names id rather have seen than kingdom and bok bok personally, who i think might have deserved it more, but hey, sort of good to see them there.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 2 January 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
kingdom's "mind reader" is one of the best songs of this/last/any year, and there were nice parallels in the way both of them started out and made their names as club promoters and djs
― lex pretend, Saturday, 2 January 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm interested to know whether anyone had any reactions to the Dubplate Wonder mix - I feel too close to this stuff to accurately guess whether whatever I perceive as brilliance is something me-specific or if others will see it too.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link