ILX 70s album poll - results

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Oh fuck not again

hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

WHERE IS BRIAN ENO AND WHERE IS YES AND WHERE IS CAPTAIN BEYOND AND WHERE IS EARTH WIND & FIRE AND WHERE IS ZEPPELIN AND WHERE IS JETHRO TULL AND WHERE IS STEVIE MILLER AND WHERE IS STEVIE WONDER AND WHERE IS ASH RA TEMPEL AND WHERE IS KLAATU AND WHERE IS THIN LIZZY AND WHERE IS T. REX AND WHERE IS JONI MITCHELL AND WHERE IS VAN MORRISON AND WHERE IS NEIL YOUNG AND WHERE IS BOSTON AND WHERE IS DYLAN AND WHERE IS HORSLIPS AND WHERE IS SKYNYRD AND WHERE ARE THE FACES AND WHERE THE FUCK IS HAWKWIND???????????????

the white goddess, Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Billy - no I don't think I did - sorry. I got a mail saying you'd try and do one, but no actual blurb. Would you post it here for me?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

This is how that should have looked:

71

points: 262
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 10

PARLIAMENT - THE MOTHERSHIP CONNECTION


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hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson:

First jazz album I can remember enjoying was Miles' Tribute To Jack Johnson - steady beat, plenty of rockin', lots of surprises. I still don't get Kind Of Blue to this day.

-- Patrick (calimer...), July 16th, 2001

Search: pretty much all the 70s electric stuff sans At Fillmore (no to be confused with Black Beauty: Live at Fillmore West). start with In a Silent Way ('69, but still; most beautiful), Jack Johnson (hardest-rocking), Dark Magus (most ferociously intense).

-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), December 14th, 2002

Absolutely the best thing Miles Davis in the '70s, even greater than "Agartha" or the best of "Get Up With It."

-- eddie hurt (eddshur...), March 29th, 2004 6:45 PM.

and if you like the standard issue Jack Johnson, the complete sessions box is fascinating. Chockful of random beauty and killer guitar skronk. Really, it's not just another overstuffed ripoff.

-- lovebug starski (writeco...), March 28th, 2004 2:49 PM.

(In reply to "If you were boxer, what would your entrance music be):

'Right Off' from Miles Davis' Tribute to Jack Johnson. Obv.

-- Jordan (jordancohe...) December 2nd, 2003

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost
How queer. Yup, but it'll be tomorrow as I'm at work.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

WHERE IS BRIAN ENO

funny you should ask.

70

points: 263
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 11

BRIAN ENO - TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN (BY STRATEGY)


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hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

More tomorrow

hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Since when did "On The Radio" become a 70s album. Most of the music may have been released in the 70s, but the compilation was still released in 1980, as was the title track.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Parliament - Mothership Connection:

Absent-mindedly grabbed a tape of this yesterday as I begrudgingly limped off to the gym for a stupefying round of self-torture on the treadmill, and found a new buoyancy in my otherwise lumpen, funkless gait, prompted by the seamless brilliance of this....wait for it....genuinely timeless classic!

I remmber my sister brought this album home (along with Clones of Dr.Funkenstein) sometime in the summer of 1976 or so, whetting my ten year old appetite for it by saying they were "like the black version of Kiss". Well, they sure did look as equally otherworldly as my beloved, grease-painted superheroes....and were on the same visionary record label....but oof were they ever different! For a start, there seemed to be about forty of them, and the sheer production and instrumentation of Mothership Connection was dizzying (Kiss wouldn't manage as varied and vast a sound until Destroyer). But damn....having heard nothing of any semblance of "funk" in any capacity (James Brown didn't get a lot of airplay in our mid-to-late 70's household), this was just a whole different brand of beast.

For a start, Clinton's narrative skills on the first two tracks are completley hilarious and bizarre, hooking me right in. Secondly, the grooves just seem to flow so effortlessly, morphing from full-on punch and then off into jazzy subtlety, buffered by at least three different voices at a time (Lollipop Man, "the Long Haired Sucka" being my favorite). The precise moment during "Mothership Connection (Star Child)," when the band switches back into the "Swing low sweet chariot..." refrain and the giant saucer gently lifts off again (I'm talking bout specificaly 5:13 into the song), it is truly a transcendent bit of music. Damn I love that.

"Unfunky UFO" seems to abduct the riff from Stevie Wonder's "Superstitious" and takes it on a strange sci-fi episode involving an alien invasion prompted by a funk famine. Odd? You betcha, but it's wildy inventive and engaging stuff.

I remember especially enjoying "Handcuffs" as a kid, mistaking the chorus for being "Do I have to put my handcuffs on your mama?", which made precious little sense but prompted big laughs. The song, in retrospect, is actually a tad misogynist, but hey....this was the 70's after all.

"Give Up the Funk..." is of course a massive classic, and there's nothing I can say about it that will further its status as utterly brilliant. Even the arguable filler tracks ("Night of the Thumpasorus Peoples") are still completely awe inspiring.

If you don't own this record, you're exiling yourself in a world devoid of fun.

Who agrees? Who dares disagree?

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), August 14th, 2003

Far and away their tightest, least indulgent funk alb, heavily plundered by Dr. Dre. One of the all-time great alb covers too!

-- Andrew L (andre...), July 15th, 2001

Something of a landmark, being one of the first r&b record that's back to back funk, with not a ballad in sight.

-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), February 4th, 2004

'Mothership Connection' - you won't believe how many bits you'll recognize, it's been sampled to infinity.

-- tarden (scrape10...), July 15th, 2001

There are some strange and tortured souls out there who prefer "Funkentelechy" but then as George himself said, "Mothership" is the one with "all the hits".

-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), August 14th, 2003

Around the age of 12 or 13 my best friend found his brother's Parliament CD and we listened to it on repeat for weeks, out on the porch, dancing. First time I ever really danced. That shit changed my life.

-- Sonny A. (newaddres...), August 16th, 2003 2:17 AM.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Geir - compilations are often troublesome to pin down to a decade. Would you rather call it an 80s album? That would be even weirder to me, seeing as most of the songs it contains, as you say, are from the 70s.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

(fwiw I didn't think Nuggets should have been allowed in the poll, but there you go)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)

"Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy" is my favorite Eno record. Darker then the first record but not as sleep inducing as his latter more ambient work. There are "songs" on this record as well as the sonic textures Eno is known for. It works on two levels, you can just "play" it or you can really "listen" to it and enjoy it equally. Still don't know what this record has to do with Chinese spies though...


-- Juan (p1nk8c1...), November 7th, 2002

Taking Tiger Mountain: His second album. Quite strange surreal story. Somehow gripping. With singing.

-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), July 17th, 2001


Eno is an underrated lyricist...the words on "Tiger Mountain" always struck me as very nice indeed.

-- Jess Hill (jesshil...), February 28th, 2003


"Tiger Mountain" contains some of the best words I know.

-- eddie hurt (eddshur...), July 21st, 2004

I was in a bar where this guy I know works and he was playing songs from his iPod over the stereo. At one point I asked him, Is this the Thinking Fellers? And he said, no it's Brian Eno. Then later another song came on, and I asked him if it was the Swell Maps. Again it was Eno. It turns out both songs were on TTM(BS). That's when I knew I needed to hear the rest of the album.

-- o. nate (syne_wav...), July 21st, 2004

One thing I don't think I've said about Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy is that I got a copy around the time that I had just about lost my belief in Christian doctrine, so it took on kind of a heavy symbolic weight of the scarey, uncertain, world of religious disbelief. (Obviously I hadn't only listened to Christian music up until then. That's not the point.) I want to exmphasize, this is a symbolic purpose I was giving it: I don't think it has much to do with the album itself (although it is kind of interesting in light of some things I've read by him essential outlining an anti-fundamentalism--of whatever source--stance). Just the cover itself took on a certain weight, and I wasn't totally happy about it. It didn't look like an especially happy world (and I've never been unambivalently attracted to hipster jadedness, if I've ever been attracted by it at all), but it seemed somewhat inevitable that I would be joining it. Graphically, it was: the cover of Taking Tiger Mountain vs. the dull blue cover of Cornelius Van Til's Defense of the Faith (given to me by my brother-in-law). I think I was more visually oriented then. Anyway, book covers or album covers could easily become suffused with an emotional coloring.


-- Rockist Scientist (heterophoni...), July 21st, 2004

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

(I can't seem to find anyone saying anything much about Let's Get It On.)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Tribute to Jack Johnson at 73?

(rolls in grave)

poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Geir - compilations are often troublesome to pin down to a decade. Would you rather call it an 80s album?

I wouldn't call it an album. No need for it in the list as long as there is "Bad Girls" anyway

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

(rolls in grave)

Davis' corpse was always going to be perturbed by the preferences of tiny samples of online listmaking geeks. But what can you do?

Nice work Hobart Paving. Even though many of my choices have already appeared!

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Geir: What is your stance on the Nuggets inclusion?

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link

that was actually me rolling in my own grave.. should have made that clear.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 18 April 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you have a grave where you take naps and stuff? That would be so cool.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

(Jack Johnson was in my top 5 IIRC.)

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

This belongs above...

John Cale - Paris 1919

There was a lot of nostalgia in the early 70's. From Harry Nillson's drowsy take on easy listening to glam's rocket charged reworking of classic rock and roll memes, a whole generation of musicians were looking back to the carefree days of their youth.

If anyone should be immune to such revisionism then John Cale should be that man. Years spent with Lamonte Young and the Velvet's would be enough to prevent such indulgences . Even Cale wasn't immune, but preferred the richer emotional nostalgia of his youth rather than the callow retreads favoured elsewhere.

Paris 1919 was a work out of time, lush and poetic when elsewhere rock was going through a protracted adolescence. The sepia tinted Cover portrait hinted, like the Band's eponymous album, that this was a piece which would transcend fads and fashion.

Ignored at the time it nevertheless proved to be his most emotionally enduring work (though Music for a new society comes close). Playfully adult in it's themes of travel, mystery and nostalgia. A travelogue of the mind and the heart, a mystery which deepens through repeated listening.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

What does Paris 1919 sound like? Is it anything like either the Velvets or the Theatre of Eternal Music?

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:18 (nineteen years ago) link

not really like the velvets. more like rather soft chamber folk rock music. there is an impressionist atmosphere attached to it. when i think about it i would maybe even compare it to "astral weeks". it's much less airy and spiritual though.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I think John Cale used to refer to Paris 1919 as his "Procol Harum album". I'm no expert on PH, but I remember there being certains parts on Exotic birds... that sounded very much like Paris. Chris Thomas produced both, of course.

the todster (the todster), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Paris 1919 is amazing. It probably would have been my #1 pick.

the todster (the todster), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"Paris 1919": Europhile apotheosis of '70s LA studio-rock.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 18 April 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

A Saints album better place high. It'd be a fucking crime if the NY Dolls got into the top hundred and "I'm Stranded" or "Eternally Yours" didn't

Dan Beale, Monday, 18 April 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of Cale, I remember putting Letter from Abroad on the playlist the other day and not remembering the artist when it came on later and being sure I was listening to Beck. How many guys can have songs that predate Beck by 20+ years and put out the kind of lush stuff that is on Paris 1919?

Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

That song's post-Beck

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

69

points: 266
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 6

SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER OFFICIAL SOUND TRACK

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Its surprisingly hard, given its high placing, to find too many positive comments about this one..

disco was thriving in the mainstream pre-Saturday Night Fever, but the movie and especially the soundtrack made the genre unavoidable leading to disco crossovers by everyone from Elton John to Ethel Merman and a big backlash. No Saturday Night fever - no overexposure, maybe disco doesn't die. Of course you can argue that disco never died, it just turned into electro, etc. but try telling that to all the disco acts who suddenly lost their record deals sometime in the early '80s.-- J Blount (littlejohnnyjewe...), April 29th, 2002.

I don't suppose this is really a negative comment. And the Ethel Merman disco albums is FANTASTIC!!

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope I voted for that. I can't remember.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Saturday Night Fever is one of the best soundtracks evah.

-- helenfordsdale (helenfordsdal...), December 23rd, 2001.

err... a bit on the succinct side, that comment, but it serves the purpose, doesn't it?

x-post I could check if you voted for it if you want - remind me what name you'd have sent the e-mail under.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not important, I'm just curious. I think the name on my oumtransmissions account is "Osmane Omane" or something close to that.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

68

points: 269
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 10

WIRE - CHAIRS MISSING

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Chairs missing" was my first exposure to Wire (after hearing "12XU" on a compilation and finding it hilariously funny) and it blew me away. It still sounds contemporary today, whereas the albums either side of it sound dated - "Pink flag" too punk, "154" too arty. "Chairs missing" is the perfect mix of pop, punk, art and strange beauty. And in fact I'm going to go away and play it again, just to remind myself how good it is.
-- Rob M (robdmorga...), June 6th, 2001.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

and Larue? (RS??) no, you didn't..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

67

points: 269
1st place votes:1
total votes: 8

LED ZEPPELIN - HOUSES OF THE HOLY

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and I have a REAL BLURB SPECIALLY WRITTEN FOR THE OCCASION FOR THIS ONE. HURRAY!!

HERE IT IS:


Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy

Electric guitar as orchestra.

---Sundar


Short, and to the point.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Led Zeppelin's next highest placing was 7th, Wire's was 8th. Hence the positions.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually I had "Chairs Missing" 4th. boo, 2 of my top ten have already passed by...

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Shouldn't Wire rank higher on account of the higher number of votes? Is that how ties were settled in other polls? I guess it doesn't matter, we're only at #67.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

66

points: 270
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 13

LED ZEPPELIN - IV

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Led Zeppelin - IV

A couple favourite moments:
- when Robert Plant's voice mutates into a bowed string at the end of
"Four
Sticks"
- that sort of crackling chord after "When the Levee Breaks"; the way
the most
traditional blues song is also the most studio-treated
- the piles of overdubbed guitars pulling off suspensions of D before
the
"Stairway to Heaven" solo; the sighing slide guitar overdub in that
solo

---Sundar

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Shouldn't Wire rank higher on account of the higher number of votes? Is that how ties were settled in other polls? I guess it doesn't matter, we're only at #67.

I suppose it depends whether you think its more important that a few people really, really loved an album or that more people thought it was quite good, but not their favourite. I decided on the former in the end, but can see why you'd suggest the alternative.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually I had "Chairs Missing" 4th. boo, 2 of my top ten have already passed by...

FUCK! No they haven't.

err... look away for a minute...

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

68

points: 269
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 10

WIRE - 154

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ahem... erm...note the subtle difference.

This is how that SHOULD have looked.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Chairs Missing MAY OR MAY NOT be elsewhere in the top 100.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

That's more like it... I will be sort of shocked if Chairs Missing doesnt' even make the top 50!!!

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Thread Best Evah.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

67 and 66 should look as they do now. I think I was just excited and keen to get to them because someone had written a proper blurb. A bit sad that, really.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link


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