also yeah, gotta have time for this decades london calling to do the rounds.
― mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
We should do the 2009 poll in January, then the '00s decade poll after a few months for perspective's sake (for what that's even worth on ILM).
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
musically hosts the best polls (no offense Tuomas!)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
After this Johnny Fever is (re)doing a 70s poll, I'm running (with Glenn) NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILX METAL ALBUMS Of 2009 (Closes December 20) then musically will be doing the 2009 poll. So I think everyone might be a bit polled out for a while.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i think musically also did the 2000-04 poll
nah that was me, and every day i curse the damage done
― mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
oh sorry dude.
pfunkboy: remember chap's 90s telly poll, my 00s telly poll or the 40s film poll
― mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
and Geir is back on ilx too!!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
If there's a 60s poll then Geir needs to run it.
A 2000s poll would be great, but the electrodribble dudes will probably ruin it like the 2008 poll.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
We already did a 1960s single and album poll, I think?
I was just looking at the 90s single poll results, and they were awesome! "Regulate", "Mind Playing Tricks on Me", and "Groove is in the Heart" all in the top 10! Why did the 90s single poll have so much more dance and rap and r&b than the 80s single poll?
― Tuomas, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
because ilx hated black people less back then, obviously
― iatee, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
That'll be my 1st place. For me it's a top 5 all-time album and it totally changed my life. First time I heard it I was "fuck yes this is for me!" and it's been bad haircuts and not learning to play guitar properly ever since. It's easily my most played album of all time, there are others I sometimes think of as better albums (Suicide, Pornography on a bad day, Atomiser when I'm feeling loud) but I'm never not in the mood for Psychocandy.
I'm going to listen to it right now and have a wee moan to myself about how it's so sad that not everyone in the world agrees with me.
You Never Understand me :(
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
did we do a 60s poll? i don't remember it. link?
― mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
ILX 60'S POLL PART ONE - THE SONGS
― Tuomas, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Better late than never. ILX 60'S POLL PART TWO - THE ALBUMS
God, that poll is enough to make you wish the 60s never existed. The Beatles, the VU, Dylan, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― Chillwave Is an Ill Wave (askance johnson), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I know right!!! who wants to live in a world where bands like the VU and the Beatles made albums that lots of people enjoy listening to
― iatee, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, well, I mean, I like a lot of those albums, but the world needs more lists with them on them like it needs more carbon dioxide
― Chillwave Is an Ill Wave (askance johnson), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
are you sure you don't want to stick with "enough to make you wish the 60s never existed"?
― iatee, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
It would be surreally awesome if Talk Talk won this! I doubt it'll happen though.
Also a little baffled by Crut saying Simple Minds arent "relevant" in the history of 80s. John Hughes soundtracks anyone!?
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
So here's what's left...
Remain In LightDaydream NationDoolittleSurfer RosaThrillerPurple RainSign O the TimesDouble NickelsPaul's BoutiqueStraight outta ComptonMurmurBack In BlackSpirit Of EdenNation Of MillionsMistrial
Add The Queen is Dead and Meat is Murder, plus I'm guessing Low-Life
― Parenthetical Grillz, Monday, 30 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
My placed albums so far. I don't expect to see many more. My placing in bold.
3 98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)4 97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)15 78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)16 63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)2 41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)6 28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)1 20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
No Soft Cell, Bauhaus or Nick Cave so far makes me think I lived through a different 80s to everyone else. I'd like to see the Sisters of Mercy get a mention as well but I accept all their best work came before the album, I'd like to think they'd make an appearance in an EP poll.
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
R I O
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
someone was complaining earlier about the boringness of the 20s, relative to the rest of the list. seemed silly to me at the time, but i'm starting to get the feeling. total dominance of a very narrow range of 80s "college radio" / 120 minutes hitmakers is starting to feel oppressive. especially as it comes at the expense of every other kind of music imaginable. suppose it was inevitable that rap, mainstream radio & metal would be marginalized in favor of anglophilic indiepop, and that the top of the list would be narrower than the bottom, but the unflinching totality of it's still a bit dispiriting.
there is nothing so sad as pinning your hopes to the arrival of an iron maiden album that will never come...
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
not that graceland didn't make a dent in radio, but you know what i mean
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Top Albums of the 80s on rateyourmusic.comhttp://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1980s
― djmartian, Monday, 30 November 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
stuff i voted for that's shown up (cuz i'm as indie fuck as the next guy):
1) Sonic Youth - Sister2) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription4) Arvo Part - Tabula Rasa5) Laurie Anderson - Big Science10) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues11) Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains13) XTC - Skylarking16) Grace Jones - Nightclubbing17) Big Black - Atomizer19) Prince - 199921) Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction23) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail
still holding out hope for minutemen, a.r. kane, butthole surfers, slayer, maiden, metallica, wipers, devo, gun club, rush (not gonna happen). not much hope, but a little...
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
every poll we have ends up being filled with safe and boring music that everyone agreed on. that is because a poll is a way of finding out what people agree on.
― iatee, Monday, 30 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
grace jones should have been much, much higher in my ballot. at this point that's regret #1. even more so than the cold shoulder i turned to straight outta compton, master of puppets, and it takes a nation of millions (figuring that everyone else would rep those anyway)
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
ar kane? lol in yer dreams, they were obscure at the time let alone now (mores the pity)
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
― iatee, Monday, November 30, 2009 3:15 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark
i no. big, agreed-upon stuff is always gonna come out on top. but at least half the list so far consists of recognized classics of some stripe or another. i'm bummed by the total aesthetic triumph of this one very narrow brand of melodramatic 80s dorm pop. the kind of music that you imagine edward scissorhands would listen to while pining over that shoplifting beetlejuice chick.
nothing against it, i love a lot of it, but one starts to feel a little squished.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
This is what's made it off my ballot and where it placed:
1. The Clash - Sandinista! #252. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains #100 10. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising #3715. The Replacements - Let It Be #1921. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow #3422. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash #7823. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms #5024. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly #6525. Def Leppard - Pyromania #9427. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking #95
I figure there is one left from my picks that is still to come. That would push it just past 1/3.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 November 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
the kind of music that you imagine edward scissorhands would listen to while pining over that shoplifting beetlejuice chick.
who do you think reads this site!! I dunno, it's just like ILMers be ILMing.
― iatee, Monday, 30 November 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link
ILM doesnt stand for I Love Metal, that's for sure hehe
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
People think the CURE are done. I'll be very surprised if neither "Standing On The Beach" nor "The Head On The Door" are left.
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 30 November 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
so does louis like duran duran?
― mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i actually don't really like any duran duran i've heard aside from that one album o_O i mean like 'the reflex' and 'girls on film' and 'notorious' are really pretty flat compared to the dark lush wonderland of rio
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i had Rio #33 fwiw
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
'twas, my #20, subsequently demoted to #21 to make room for Rum, Sodomy and the Lash. If it misses the top 100 by a point I shall feel culpable. LJ: have you heard the 'blue silver' version of 'The Chauffeur'? I spent an entire evening a couple of weeks ago in awe at its wondrousness, plus of course the untouchable original version and their own cover of said track (now called 'drive by'), not to mention the various crazy videos and their sleazy glamor.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I'm the only one who prefers (albeit slightly) If I Should Fall From Grace with God to Rum....
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never heard it. Like Television, The Pogues are a band who did the one album I've got so well that I have no urge to seek out anything else.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
both indisputably classic but some albums are more classic than others qua albums. fwiw "Fairytale of New York" placed above "Sweet Child O' Mine" in the 1980s singles poll, so it's not as though there's lack of love.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Kraftwerk are probably the only one left from my ballot with a chance of placing now I think
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
The rate your music link DJ Martian posted has If I Should Fall at #68 with Rum at #84 so you're not alone in being completely wrong
I'd put Rum... & Red Roses... before If I Should Fall... but I love all three.
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
this linkhttp://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1980s
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's my records that have made it already. I've got 4 more "boring" records that are sure to come.
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USAThe Replacements - Let It Be The Clash - Sandinista! Prince - Dirty Mind X - Wild Gift Sonic Youth - Sister Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising Tom Waits - Rain Dogs The Mekons - Fear and Whiskey The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
still holding out hope for english settlement but i'll settle for spirit of eden i guess
― bread has no effect on you (ciderpress), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Computer World will go top ten.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno that i can back you up, gukbe, in preferring if i should fall from grace with god to rum, sodomy and the lash, but it's still an excellent album. there are definitely days when i'd much rather listen to it.
rum's a much more impressive statement of band (and cultural) identity, and the songwriting is brilliant, but i do love the variety and experimentalism of if i should fall... it goes off in a million directions, takes huge risks in its songwriting and arrangements and pays most of them off. otoh, it's a good deal less consistent than rum. opening stretch through "thousands are sailing" is magnificent, but the drop-off after that is significant. rum doesn't have that problem - it's unflaggingly great from beginning to end.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I appreciate the fact that Rum is absolutely brilliant, a singular statement, etc. But Fall From Grace is a lot more fun. And it's got The Broad Majestic Shannon, a song I can hear 10000 times and never get sick of.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link