Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

it's a decent bit of psych-tinged pop AFAIC, and 'don't stop' is kinda hella cool (and i have a soft spot for 'this is the one'/'i am the resurrection') but it's not something that draws me in any more.

Tight voting - there's just two points between that and Sister at no. 31

d/l'ed and listened to some Foetus thanks to this poll, but still don't see the appeal

at least it's not higher

― iatee, Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:16 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Surprised it's so low - I thought it had been largely rehabiliated over the last year or two, breaking clear of its contemporaries into just being a great pop record.

In retrospect I kind of wish I'd reversed the positions of the two SY albums I voted for, but no huge regrets really.

Other artists to get multiple spots on my ballot: Elvis Costello, Talking Heads. (/boring, canonical, another man's sac)

― Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i think it'd be interesting to know what artists most frequently had multiple albums on a given voter's ballot. for me it was three Sonic Youth, and two each of Prince, Elvis Costello and the Meat Puppets.

Just checked my ballot and found I somehow missed this off. A mistake. I would've put it top ten, maybe top five.

XTC 3
The Cure 2
Talk Talk 2
The Fall 2
Foetus 2
The Chameleons 2

Yeah, the Stone Roses record is quite nice, but I'm glad it wasn't any higher. Still smarting about the De La Soul being so low, too. There are other, better, records that I don't mind coming lower as I figure it's mainly because not as many people have heard them (or in the case of SY/The Fall etc, they have too many albums and split the vote), but surely De La are as famous as the Roses?

Lots of R.E.M. from me. Looks like they'll do well since Murmur's surely a top-tenner. My guess is Document gets the shaft, which I think is too bad -- not only a great record, but probably the single album that did most to make "college rock" a viable commercial enterprise, for better and worse.

xpost:

Two Springsteen, two R.E.M. and three Prince.

surely De La are as famous as the Roses?

Here I think we have a transatlantic issue -- I mean, I'm sort of shocked at Femmes being so low but I think UK people just don't listen to that record at all. And on the other side, being in the US I forget that Stone Roses were in the UK context massively huge -- much bigger than De La I'd think.

Yeah, the Stone Roses record is quite nice, but I'm glad it wasn't any higher. Still smarting about the De La Soul being so low, too. There are other, better, records that I don't mind coming lower as I figure it's mainly because not as many people have heard them (or in the case of SY/The Fall etc, they have too many albums and split the vote), but surely De La are as famous as the Roses?

If you look at the numbers, more people voted for 3 Feet High and Rising than The Stone Roses, but people who voted for the latter rated it higher. Two people put TSR on the top spot of their ballot, but no one did that for 3FHaR.

At the time maybe, but I would have thought that their level of fame and respect in the '00s was the same (especially for ILM people). [I am from the UK, btw.]

xpost ah, that is interesting. And I guess kind of understandable.

It's a shame The Stone Roses made the list but The Happy Mondays look like missing out, Bummed is so much more enjoyable in my opinion.

Bummed yeah obv but much more of an acquired taste, obv.

I was actually thinking about Love is Hell which was released more or less at the same time as the Stone Roses and is a several trillion times better use of guitars, pedals and English accents.

27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction (201 points, 18 votes)

http://productshopnyc.com/htdocs/GNR_Apetite_Original_Cover.jpg

To quote Ethan's lovely "Why the fuck did you bother?" answer on the beatles thread: yawn. Do you two have to start?

To answer the question (and yes, Ethan's right, G'n'R are misogynistic scumbags and anti-gay to boot - definitely not moral values I want around if I cared about such things), Appetite for Destruction is classic classic classic. It rocks like a bastard on speed.

Unfortunately, G'n'R as a rock outfit are duds. Even duds can put out amazing work every once in a while.

― Ally, 2. toukokuuta 2001 3:00

The greatest album ever made. I really need to get me some speed.

― Otis Wheeler, 2. toukokuuta 2001 3:00

Just gave the album a spin annnnnd: it's still as great as it was back in the day. Quite refreshing actually to hear it again. Lovely mix of nihilism, sleaze and utopian/opiate dreams (or should I pull a Penman and say utopiate? ;). And it's filled with classic lines, "your daddy works in porno, now your mom is not around.", "besides, you got nothing better to do and I'm boooaaared.", etc. The Led Zep comparison is a bit false anyway (like them too, although in the end I prefer songs about heroin to songs about hobbits), same with Aerosmith. It just became clear to me that GnR reside in the company of The Stooges. Yeah, that great. :)

Also remembered how big they really where at school: metalheads, jocks, posh girls, hiphop heads, geeks...everybody loved them.

― Omar, 23. lokakuuta 2001 3:00

"Jungle". Best rock/metal album of the '80s? It's hard to be objective, because as people upthread have said, we've all heard it a million times. Every time I hear "Jungle" now it's not like I'm hearing the song at all, just reminding myself "oh yeah, Axl was sleeping rough in a schoolyard and this guy came up to him and said...". But yeah, it beats just about any other rock/metal album from the same period.

― snoball, 2. marraskuuta 2007 1:23

No argument from me. Probly wd have placed higher if you didn't feel like Appetite marked the end of a wave rather than the start of one.

I remember when my friend got that album when were 8 or 9, that cover was the most mind-boggling but also the coolest thing ever. Kids that we were, we didn't even realize the woman was supposed to have been raped by the robot. Now that I look at it as an adult and a feminist, I really have no idea what to say. Is it supposed to be some kind of a rape revenge fantasy?

Amazed at this. I thought it had a genuine shot at no.1.

It's so weird to me that people think of Fool's Gold as being part of the Stone Roses album.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add the release year, sorry. Obviously Appetite for Destruction was released in 1987.

Americans do, because that's how it was served up. xp

xxxpost can't imagine thinking G'n'R had a shot at no.1 on a ILX 80's poll

I actually think of "Fool's Gold" as this thing aside from the Roses, that would have happened in 89/90 whether they existed or not, just kind of coalescing out of Baggy and the "Funky Drummer" break and the general pop vibe at the time.

well like 5 rad albums now

Not much to contribute here I'm afraid (hardly a peep from any of my votes so far), but I'm Spotifying Young Marble Giants just now, and whilst it's not blowing me away at all, it's definitely a fine wee record and something I'll pick up if I ever see it. Just went through Wurlitzer Jukebox, that was actually great.

Slash really never gets his due as a guitarist, but Appetite is a work of art in that respect.

xp ha maybe, but more obvious contenders nearly all have a split vote, I though Appetite might sneak through in a clear run. Plus I know nothing about what makes other people tick, that helps a lot.

Too high.

This placement is interesting since I kind of think the Stone Roses debut was kind of to the UK what AFD was to the US-- an album that seemed awfully groundbreaking and awesome to people paying attention to that kind of music, yet to outsiders it felt like refried stuff (in the case of the SRs it was 60s psych pop over trendy beats and with GNR it was Motley Crue doing Stones covers) that is still mystifying to see lionized decades later.

i hoped Appetite would at least get to the top 10. i totally think Slash gets his due, more or less, though. how many hard rock guitarists of the past 20 years are as revered?

at least it's not higher

― iatee, Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:16 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:26 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how many hard rock guitarists of the past 20 years are as revered?

Very few, but that's the problem. Slash gets lost in the Clapton/Hendrix/Page/Blackmore shuffle created by classicists.

Slash is on the cover of guitar hero

Slash is on the cover of Guitar Hero because he's a marketable personality. I'm just saying he gets taken for granted a lot.

well yeah of course classicists aren't gonna rep for someone whose career began in 1987, but aside from i dunno zzzz jack white or something who else since then would be their token newbie but slash?

http://barelyawakeinfrogpajamas.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/070221_buckethead.jpg

was there a zingy kfc funeral or did it just come in orig?

Johnny Lang and Doyle Bramhall II? I think they're both zzzz, but guitar mag editors seemed to worship blues licks once the spandex era folded.

(sorry to derail this into a shreddo conversation...)

xpost

I think that was from that time when KFC where sponsoring the Arcade Fire.

i'm really unsure as to what the top 26 is gonna look like.

i hoped Appetite would at least get to the top 10

lol how much time do u spend posting to ilm????

There's definitely appreciation for that record around here. But whether or not it comes from the same people who vote in polls has now been settled publicly.

i think it's mostly going to look like the list has already looked so far (i.e. more Sonic Youth, Prince, R.E.M., Cure, Husker Du, Smiths and Talking Heads albums)

xpost

It was my no. 2, behind Kiss Me x 3.

I doubt we're going to see any honouring of the fire at this point. (Was Killing Joke even nominated?)

you know how wmc promised to go postal if double nickels on the dime didn't go top 5? spirit of eden is my equivalent, although by 'postal' i probably mean 'not particularly bothered'

SO anxious to see when Kate Bush shows up! It would make absolutely no sense if she didn't.

one of spirit of eden or rio to be top 5. that is all i ask for, ilx.

where's new gold dream btw? is it top 25? :D