Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

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I Know It's Over / Never Had No One Ever

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Glad that that Grady story about E2-E4 made it; i was thinking of that when i put it on my ballot.

mizzell, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah, those. I like the campiness of a line like "Oh Mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head" but it isn't enough to really save a song for me. Much prefer them in full jangle mode.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)

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i have been listening to 1999 a lot lately. the hits -- "1999," "Little Red Corvette," "Delirious" -- are all great, but the rest (the stuff that was "too weird" when i was a teenager) is absolutely stunning almost twenty years hereafter. esp. "lady cabdriver" and "something in the water (does not compute)."

it also must be the anti-Geir album ever made.

― Tad (llamasfur), 2. joulukuuta 2002 14:47

Call me a popists, but most of the tracks go on a bit long for me. "Free" and "International Lover" are just too silly. The singles rock though, and I can see why technoids love this album. But I'll take Purple Rain, Dirty Mind and especially Sign O' The Times over this one. I might even take Controversy over it too.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), 3. joulukuuta 2002 1:17

But of course they go on long--they are robo-sex!

― Ben Williams, 3. joulukuuta 2002 2:56

Well my dick starts chafing before they're done. So I'm right to complain.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), 3. joulukuuta 2002 3:05

29. The end of "1999" when it strips down to just the rhythm guitar you never noticed was there all along even though you've heard this damn song 800 thousand times and one and it's all like EPIPHANY!

― The Reverend, 26. marraskuuta 2007 8:57

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The great thing about LtB (and, I guess, Hatful and/or World Won't Listen) is being a teenager and wanting to check out this band, and buying this weird kitchen-sink collection that just has these amazing songs on it, and then you realize that none of these songs are on their albums and oh man, how much more great music like this must there be? The answer is a lot, but it's tough to find the equals of some of the songs on here. In hindsight you realize a lot of them are kind of weird one-offs or digressions or whatever, but in an alternate reality where this was the only Smiths compilation you could believe these were all their smash hits on one disc. "Panic," "William," "Is It Really So Strange?" "Sweet & Tender Hooligan," "Hand In Glove," etc - great stuff. And then the material in between, which has lots of good slow-growers eg "Rubber Ring" and "Golden Lights."

The last five or so tracks are real slow-growers, though, and I still haven't really fall in love with "Please, Please, Please..." Love "Stretch Out and Wait" though - It's the Eskimo blood in my veins!

I dunno, this is just one of those comps that's hard-hitting enough to be plausible as someone's only needed Smiths record, but sprawling enough to give you lots of things to pick over after the first wave of excitement.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

One of these days I really should check out Prince.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Double Nickels in the top 5 or I'm permabanning somebody at random.

― Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ayo tuoma count my #1 vote for 2xnickels dawg yeah

ice cr?m, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

That's 2 for Prince. Purple Rain and Sign o' the Times are sure to make an appearance too. I wonder if he'll get 5.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 29 November 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

1999 is the second best of 1980s Prince albums, after SotT. It's where he took the approach he'd started on Dirty Mind and Controversy to its logical conclusion: like Chicago house producers around the same time, he realized that stripped-down synth grooves that go on and on, backed by a relentless 4/4 beat, can be just as appealing and sexy as songs with a traditional beginning and ending. It's also where he truly found his freaky, experimental edge (which had been hinted on previous songs like "Annie Christian")... Tunes like "Something in the Water" and "Lady Cab Driver" are sociopsychosexual mini-epics that are queer both sonically and in their unresolved drama. It's kinda understandable that after an extreme statement like this Prince would go on to a more maximalist direction, but the three albums that followed 1999 can't really reach the same heights as this one. With those albums Prince expressed his experimental side in a more rockist-traditional, "progressive" way, but ironically they aren't quite as progressive as the detached, nervous robot sex of 1999.

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i am listening to 1999 and so far so sexy

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

29. The end of "1999" when it strips down to just the rhythm guitar you never noticed was there all along even though you've heard this damn song 800 thousand times and one and it's all like EPIPHANY!

― The Reverend, 26. marraskuuta 2007 8:57

^^^^^
as true today as it was in marraskuuta 2007

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 29 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

In a world where 1999 doesn't crack the top 30...

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

just listened to 1999 in its entirety for the first time - pretty sweet, uplifting record...am feeling happier! how can u be sad when prince plays

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Purple Rain and Sign o' the Times are sure to make an appearance too. I wonder if he'll get 5.

i'll be surprised (as in appalled) if dirty mind doesn't chart. but who knows?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't wanna be a poet
cuz I don't wanna blow it.
I don't care to win awards.

all I wanna do is dance
play music, sex, romance
try my best to never get bored

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw him take a huff at the o2 - that made me sad

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

That's 2 for Prince. Purple Rain and Sign o' the Times are sure to make an appearance too. I wonder if he'll get 5.

Dirty Mind will make it too I'm sure.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It's funnier if you swap "huff" for "dump"
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

but less accurate

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

no anecdote is safe from pfunkboy's "dump" substitution

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I have time tonight, should I do the countdown up to 26 or should I stop at 31?

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

26!!

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

He was pissing about, starting tunes then dumping them after 20 seconds, and threw a strop when he got booed and closed things down early - a poor show

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't make the same mistake, Tuomas

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

dn throw a strop

ice cr?m, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

or a dump

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"I started lurking here years ago in part because of past polls, which (seemed to) place a hazy focus on strands of music emerging out of the common hinterlands of (mostly european) pop and experiment in the 80s, but welcomed genius arriving from other corners. Thats more or less my trajectory, too. Those who see the best of modern music as a continual divergence of musics of the African diaspora, and there's a lot of merit to the idea, generally found other forums."

Eye-stabbing time for me too. I guess it needs to be said: For many white kids, not just myself at age 14, punk was a way INTO the music of the African diaspora, not out of it--into seeing all rock and roll as part of that tradition, and into looking beyond the radio. Because radio and MTV were much less of an open all-genre mashup through the '80s than we like to remember, Prince/Madonna/Michael Jackson aside. Rap was pretty much entirely underground except "I Feel For You," go-go was a rumor, and '70s funk records were still collectors items until sampling and the CD boom. My No. 1 and 2 were Sandinista! and Double Nickels, unthinkable without music of the African diaspora right up to the years they were recorded, and my No. 3 was It Takes a Nation, an answer to the Clash. Those are probably white-boy choices, but are they Eurocentric ones?

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

glad to see 1999 do well, it was the album I felt the most guilt about cutting from my ballot (although SOTT and Purple Rain are on there).

henry man see u (some dude), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)

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No, Kate you're not - your description of DN is spot-on. AND I agree with you on 'Sister' - definitely the best - Schizophrenia, Catholic Block, Pipeline/Kill Time, and especially Cotton Crown and White Cross are fantastic. It seems like their whole sound, vision and attitood all came together in such a sharp focus on this album. EVOL nearly gets there, but afterwards DN blurs it out too much.

The other album I REALLY like is 'Dirty'. SY diehards may not agree, and it does feel like a step towards the 'mainstream', which is what I really like about it, I guess. Search for "Theresa's Sound World", but it's all great.

I lost interest after Dirty - I always intend to pick up some of the 90's albums cheap, and never do.

Destroy : Bad Moon Rising and the awful Death Valley '69.

― Dr. C, 6. kesäkuuta 2001 3:00

Key phrase: "when i was 17, man, all the time."

When I was 17, playing Sister would result in the feeling of being in the presence of a higher power. So how can something like Washing Machine affect me?

― masonic boom, 8. kesäkuuta 2001 3:00

Another vote for Sister. The first of them I heard back then. "Schizophrenia" still gives me the chills. That intro is unbelievable - so simple, so effective.

― willem, 24. kesäkuuta 2007 14:35
Evol was my favourite album ever once but now it doesn't hold up as well for me as Sister does. "Green Light"/"Death to Our Friends"/"Secret Girl" are really great and creepy-pretty like they should be but parts of it feel a bit enervated. Sister moves more. The sound (lo-fi approximation of 80s production values?) seems a bit off. Even "Expressway" drags a bit. I don't know if it's just that I've heard more ambient guitar music or if it's that I just played the album to death from 16-23.

I think "Schizophrenia" is the best thing they've done. Is it the catchiest song that has no recurring sections at all? I think Sister maximizes their strengths within the form of creatively structured songs that have memorable tunes and beats. Sonic Nurse might be my 2nd choice!

― Sundar, 26. kesäkuuta 2007 7:12

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

TOO. FUCKING. LOW.

henry man see u (some dude), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

TOO. FUCKING. LOW.

― henry man see u (some dude), Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

balearific, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

about right tbh.

The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

it's cool to see the 2 best sonic youth albums on this list, but kind of a shame that 'daydream nation' will certainly place much higher

psychgawsple, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

^ We are of one mind

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

too low in that evol and sister will be below the inferior daydream nation

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)

http://www.everythingathon.com/husker-du-zen-arcade-750.JPG

I love the Huskers, but I am suprised Zen Arcade not only lost this one, but by this much. Zen Arcade is the monolith and it should get bonus points for inspiring Double Nickels on the Dime.

I concede on the song New Day Rising and a few other songs being as good as Husker Du ever did, but the second half of that album isn't near as strong. Zen Arcade really pushed things and the crazy noisy stuff like Hare Krishna, What's Going On, Dreams Reoccurring and I Will Never Forget You is so much better to my ears than something like How to Skin A Cat.

They are both raw recorded albums, but all of that reverb that Spot drenched on SST records starting about that takes away some of the impact. Zen Arcade is real dry and direct sounding.

I like New Day Rising, but Zen Arcade to me is the zenith of what Husker Du accomplished.

― earlnash, 25. kesäkuuta 2007 4:10

I've been listening to Zen Arcade a lot lately; it's one of three CDs that has found a home in my car. It stands up to me much better than New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig because it's so weird. The piano interludes, backwards guitars, weird spoken thingeees, etc all break up the punkier stuff very well. And I love the final track. I also think the lack of production is really great.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), 2. heinäkuuta 2004 2:01

Hard one! But Zen Arcade for me, partly cos of its huge significance for me when I was young - it was my Catcher In The Rye if you will, though I don't really feel that exact adolescent emotional identification with it anymore. But also (and more importantly) the sonics still have that wild scorch, Bob Mould sounds like a man with his throat on fire.

― NickB (NickB), 14. maaliskuuta 2006 19:07

Zen Arcade cos 'Reoccurring Dreams' sounds better than almost anything else ever when you're off your tits

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), 15. maaliskuuta 2006 0:55

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

like double nickels, it is good but not enough to vote for

The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

lurkers win again

xp re: SY DN

sleeve, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

daydream nation is better tho

The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

not for me!

sleeve, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Daydream Nation possibly isn't fucking shit, but I always compelled to say that Daydream Nation is fucking shit because compared to Evol and Sister, Daydream Nation is fucking shit.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yay husker du

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont really understand seeing much difference in quality either way? wanna explain?

The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

btw bad moon rising is better than all of them but whatevs

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

The previous 2 albums take way more chances than DN. Their skronk is far skronkier, the dynamics of the records are far more dramatic. The pop hooks are hookier and the screaming guitars of death are deathier. The tremulous chime-y heads-down moments groove and sparkle and make pretty.

Daydream Nation, on the other hand, sounds like a late period Status Quo album.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

its simple, daydream nation isnt as great as sister or evol, however daydream nation is the album of choice for people who havent heard the others usually. Also the music press here was slow to pick up on SY so daydream nation is the first one they went overboard on.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

you know, it is possible that some people might legitimately like DN more than Sister of Evol.

Chillwave Is an Ill Wave (askance johnson), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Not possible.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Bad Moon Rising is still their best though.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Husker Du are the best SST band anyway.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link


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