Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

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And So.

Euler, Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

so ilx will resemble a Mojo or Q list?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i have still some hopes for outsiders like house of love, rattlesnakes, youth of america (will definitely be there), fire of love (ditto), miss america (probably not) etc. to show up

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

House Tornado is more likely than House Of Love IMO.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally all of my picks are being mentioned as contenders - I'll need to check out this "Q Magazine", it sounds spiffing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Double Nickels in the top 5 or I'm permabanning somebody at random.

Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Saturday, 28 November 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i know the quotes are shite (& i'm sorry) but i'm pretty honored to be quoted for both the Fall albums that placed...esp. honored to have my quote hot on the heels of that Mark S De La Soul quote, seeing that Sinker is kind of a hero of mine and I have that whole thread saved on my PC

top three will prolley be Sign o the Times, The Queen Is Dead, and Remain in Light. Sister & Daydream Nation will prolley be on the lower end of the top 10--perhaps right next to each other??? If Surfer Rosa makes top 10 I will be very pleased, though I expect it to be #11...

If AR Kane's 69 makes the list, that wd be awesome...

NU SHOOZ! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 28 November 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I think there's a good chance Purple Rain will be towards the top of the list -- maybe higher than Sign??

Chillwave Is an Ill Wave (askance johnson), Saturday, 28 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe...my best guess would be #10 though...I'll bet Thriller will beat PR...

NU SHOOZ! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 28 November 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I am kind of surprised to see ABC place so high! I think I voted for that record. I know I put it on the other day while cooking...it's got such a good energy to carry you through any task. "Date Stamp" was the song that took me by surprise last go round, such great chemistry between the singers.

I am guessing maybe Britishers voted for it, tho, bcz everyone I know thinks it is the squarest shit ever.

mascara and ties (Abbott), Sunday, 29 November 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Was going to say I'm surprised to see ABC place so low, TBH.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 29 November 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

(I guessed it was more popular on ILX than in general)

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 29 November 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

your friends have bad taste.

john. a resident of chicago., Sunday, 29 November 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

my favorite discoveries from this thread so far have been laurie anderson, prefab spout (on the strength of two listens this seems amazing), and e2-e4, which i can see becoming my default late night/reading/scootering home at sunset soundtrack. the feelies didnt really jump out at me, and i continue to be perplexed by the love for world of echo, which still sounds to me like they left the tape running in the studio and a.r. just wandered around plucking and plonking things and humming to himself while he waited for his ride, although, full disclosure -- i dont think ive ever made it to the end. still waiting for it to click for me.

im still not sure if my #1 will make it.

rent, Sunday, 29 November 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoa, this E2-E4 thing is awesome.

BIG HOOS was the drummer for the rock band Gay Mom (The Reverend), Sunday, 29 November 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

downloading e2-e4 now. never so much as heard of it. youtube clips are amazing, downloading now. thx, ilm!

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 November 2009 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I had no idea that people liked ABC this much

iatee, Sunday, 29 November 2009 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

You guys and this thread are making me so excited to get back to having broadband access. Although I think a lot of these are also pretty widely available in the $5 bin, which is sweet too.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 10:14 (fourteen years ago) link

34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)

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'Hatful of Hollow' definitely. 'Louder than Bombs' never felt like anything other than an arbitrary collection of songs from various periods of the Smiths to me, particularly since it shares so many of the songs with 'The World Won't Listen' (which I probably prefer).

The songs on 'Hatful..' all come from the same period, and mostly have the same production, thrillingly basic and brutal. It feels like a document of the first months of the Smiths, an outrageous demonstration of pure talent. It says, "We started this band last year. Since then, we've knocked out a couple of dozen classic songs. Here are our b-sides!" It feels like a proper album.

― Eyeball Kicks, 27. elokuuta 2002 18:29

But Louder than Bombs has 'Half a Person' which is about as perfect as music gets.

I dunno. The lyrics are so repetitive...

Mozz's downfall as a lyricist is that he abuses his punchlines -- instead of writing a plaintive song with one really ace punchline at the end, or writing something with MANY MANY good jokes, he just recycles the same jokes throught the song and assumes they'll be as funny/potent each time.

Hatful is my fave Smiths record -- it just sounds wonderful, a bit wirier and more postpunk-perturbed than the others.

― Jody Beth Rosen, 27. elokuuta 2002 20:05

Louder than Bombs was a compilation for the American market, wasn't it? I am not even 100% sure if I have it, I guess yes, but bloody hell it's a compilation.
Hatful of Hollow is my second favourite Smiths album after The World Won't Listen (which is a comp as well but a comp which flows better than 99,9% of all albums ever released). Hatful basically is only second as it is too short and doesn't represent the Smiths well enough.
But it has this garage sound (B-sides!) and my favourite Smiths song Girl Afraid which really was an obsession around 1985 (I came late to the party as so often) for me. On Hatful The Smiths sound so unpolished and rough. It is the least typical Smiths album and that's why I love it. The freshest of their albums. Like Boy was for U2.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), 27. elokuuta 2002 21:15

I listen to Hatful of Hollow more than any other Smiths album.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), 28. elokuuta 2002

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

And here we go with the massive overratement.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

fav smiths album

also morrissey was on dessert island discs this morning, would hate that dude if it werent for this record

liverpolol da don (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Morrissey spent a lot of time on Dessert Island these last 20 years huh?

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Those concerned this is ranking too high might consider an alternate world without vote-splitting; I don't know Hatful but threw a good-sized vote to Louder Than Bombs, one of the first five or so CDs I ever bought and jam-packed with classics. Intellectually I do kind of agree with Eyeball Kicks' quote above - LtB is miscellaneous and over-long, but it's my go-to Smiths whatnot collection and I do love it.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link

louder than bombs was high on my list too, def the best smiths cd imo

jabba hands, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)

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yeah it's odd, i know alot of people that really really prefer hatful to bombs and almost without fail they had/heard hatful first. suffice it to say 'sheila take a bow' is terribly special to me (terribly terribly special to me when i was fifteen), so ymmv obv. the smiths hits comps have always looked like poorly done cash-ins to me.

― j blount (papa la bas), 29. tammikuuta 2005 9:46

if someone says; "hey you like that band that morrissey was in what were they like" all that one needs do is stick louder than bombs on a tape top and tale it with this charming man and how soon is now and possibly and i keep mine hidden or jeanne just to show hey y'know i know and really it's a pretty much perfect intro to smithdom

― elwisty (elwisty), 30. tammikuuta 2005 3:14

An American compilation but a fairly regular fixture of UK HMV sales, so my first Smiths purchase and probably still the one that gets played most. Love all of the first half (my attention wanders a bit from "Golden Lights" on) but will probably vote for "Ask".

― a passing spacecadet, 1. syyskuuta 2008 13:22

What amazes me is that, 17 years after buying this on tape, a new song surprises me with a zinger I never heard, or a guitar curlicue I missed, or a rhythm more beatwise than expected. The surprise this year is "Rubber Ring," which rarely gets much love: note the cello underpinning every other verse. "Oscillate Wildly" is one of my favorite instrumentals, "Ask" is Moz oscillating wildly, with an ear to ear grin, And I wish more snark was as wise as "You Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby."

The Queen is Dead is mighty fine, but LTB is maybe all the Smiths you need own.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, 2. syyskuuta 2008 18:49

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(Nice timing, don't you think?)

Tuomas, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

If you've gots to be on the Smiths' jock in the 09 then this album is 1000 times better bet than Hatful.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

What did Morrissey pick? Eight Buju Banton tracks?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

2 x Rhubarb Crumble
Bread Pudding
Treacle Pud & Custard
Tiramisu
Cheese Platter
Summer Pudding
Tapioca

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted for rhubarb crumble over tiramisu.

Euler, Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link

No Trifle, no credibility.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

oh boring, smiths

RIGHT here I confess: I voted Hex Enduction Hour quite highly but because I voted for Perverted By Language too, and because I haven't fully imbibed the ALBUM that is TNSG, I didn't actually put that one on my list of 20, despite absolutely loving several songs therein. I ought to rectify that pronto.

How the fuck is Pornography so low? Blast it. I stand by my quote which Tuomas selected, although now I really love 'The Hanging Garden' too. Unbelievably brilliant album, almost matched by The Top.

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I had no idea that people liked ABC this much

― iatee, Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:35 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think this was one of my first thoughts when i came to this board 8 years ago

henry man see u (some dude), Sunday, 29 November 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Louder Than Bombs was the very first thing I bought with the name The Smiths on it (oh wait, maybe it was Rank?). Loved it, but didn't vote for it here. Went with Hatful of Hollow instead. Surprised to see them outside th etop 30, even with some vote splitting. QiD should still do well?

DavidM, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Strangeways is the best proper album, ergo it won't place.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The Smiths is the best album proper, ergo it wasn't even nominated.

DavidM, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I might've had Louder and Strangeways at the lower end of my ballot but the Smiths have just gotten so tired with age. Maybe this is a voter demographics thing, but I was pretty much done with them by 1990, just too familiar and lacking much power to surprise or delight any more. I could draw up a POX or maybe even POXV that I'd still want to listen to now but compared to a lot of the albums on this list, and a lot of the nominations that no doubt won't make the cut, I think the Smiths are very much of their time and mostly best left there.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

huh, the smiths have always seemed kinda 'out of time' to me and that's one of the reasons i like them

jabba hands, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

but i didn't start listening to them till mid-90s so that prob makes a difference

jabba hands, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Louder Than Bombs was the very first thing I bought with the name The Smiths on it (oh wait, maybe it was Rank?). Loved it, but didn't vote for it here. Went with Hatful of Hollow instead.

^^Exact same for me. Couldn't even find Hatful until I went to college; it is so much better sounding than Louder - there's an energy and roughness that was lost by the time of some of the later singles. My go to Smiths when I'm in the mood for any Smiths.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I started listening to the Smiths when I was maybe 15 or 16, under the influence of my college-grad brother who brought them home...this would have been in 1995 basically, so I completely missed "their time" -- and yet I still kinda know what Noodle Vague is saying, insofar as I've listened to them and listened to them and listened to them and now kinda feel no real need to do so again. Classic band burnout I guess. Checking my ballot, it looks like Louder Than Bombs made my #3 slot, which is funny to me since I almost never put it on, but clearly I was honoring its lifelong impact on me. I also voted for Strangeways, the one I got into most recently (like five or six years ago), but not The Queen Is Dead, which I would have spent several high school years swearing as one of the all-time classic albums, etc etc.... the two dreary songs early on really knock the wind out of it for me, even though the rest are just undeniable classics.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Louder than Bombs a bit bloated? Hatful seems more coherent, more winsome.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Quick Tuomas, post another entry!

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I like their later period songs better is the main reason I think. With the possible exception of Side 1 of Meat is Murder which in and of itself is perhaps their best single side.

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Louder Than Bombs is the only one I voted for. Even though it runs out of steam towards the end, it's just loaded with hits. The some of the slow ones on Queen Is Dead are momentum killers.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

isn't louder than bombs just the us version of hatful of hollow?

The N'Gog of the Marriage (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

No no, TQID gets weak after the two dreary ones, and only picks up at the end. I gave it a minor vote for old times' sake, but it's only the unpopular albums that do anything for me now. Hatful of Hollow's still great though. Agree with NV.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Trivial comment, but wau do I love the color of this album cover.

When I was in college (1989-93) the records that were in essentially EVERYONE's dorm room were Marley: Legend and Joshua Tree. Among the 40% who ascribed to themselves any amount of musical sophistication, add Louder than Bombs. Not sure this is an argument for or against LtB but yes I voted for this big satchel of hits that defined a way of being for many.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I did grow up in The Smith's "time," and their appeal has never dimmed for me. They're among the greatest rock acts ever. I hope Strangeways charts here, tho I doubt it will. I'd bet The Queen Is Dead will be Top 5. Curious about which songs on The Queen Is Dead Dr. C and Kornrulz consider "dreary" and "momentum killers," respectively.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I Know It's Over / Never Had No One Ever

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 29 November 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link


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