Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

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yeahhh I woulda voted liberty bell top 5 had it been nominated

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

that feelies album is the 1st rad thing on here

¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ (Lamp), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Liberty Belle was the Go-Betweens record that didn't get nominated.

Ha...you all beat me to the punch. I'll post it anyway.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

skylarking's pretty good but there's a couple from earlier in the decade i'm looking forward to a little more!

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

that feelies album is the 1st rad thing on here

o_O

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

(Just realized the first Danzig album wasn't nomm'ed... would've been somewhere in my top 10, likely.) ;_;

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)

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From what I gather, this final album before the Dan called it quits in the 80s seems to get panned generally speaking. I don't really get why this is? I've read "too slick/elevator music". B-b-but it's Steely Dan for chris'sake! Isn't that the point? I say if you find Gaucho to be too slick, then you have to throw your copy of Avalon into the garbage as well.

I guess I don't hear it as sounding so radically worse in quality relative to their other albums. If anything, the album in their discography it sounds closest to, Aja, is the album that seems to get unconditionally praised to the hilt by fans and critics alike.

I like Gaucho myself, especially the very underrated title track (funny lyrics, beautiful chorus, a song of theirs that should be played more often). Also "Time out of Mind" is quite enjoyable.

― Joe (Joe), 11. kesäkuuta 2005 6:39

what's not to like really. "Babylon Sisters" is a song that never fails to come to mind when I'm driving west on....Sunset to...the sea. It reminds me of "Slow" by Kylie in this weird way, because it's asking the listener to "shake it" in the middle of this tense, held-in-check chorus. Awesome. The rest is equally ace.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), 11. kesäkuuta 2005 7:44

is it a matter of this album being where you start to meet donald fagan head on and realize that, distilled, he IS elevator music or FM or whatever. i think this, the slickness that bothers people, is also obviously this incredible talent/ability where his art reaches some sort of self-realization and also becomes a lot about pure style as opposed to I don't know what - meaning of any sort maybe. donald should really start doing IDM.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), 11. kesäkuuta 2005 9:38

But there is meaning there -- I like Gear's use of the word "sinister" to describe the record. Some of this inheres in the ultra-slickness itself. They critique their own use of the sound on "FM," advising "Give her some funked-up Muzak, she'll treat you nice." And then some more on 'Gaucho' itself; check those arid repetitions of "Yougottoshakeit" on "Babylon Sisters."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), 11. kesäkuuta 2005 11:14

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

skylarking's pretty good but there's a couple from earlier in the decade i'm looking forward to a little more!

I would like to see Black Sea make it but I think English Settlement might be the only other one in the list.

I always think I like Oranges & Lemons more than I actually do, it's probably to do with how much I love the artwork and the presence of Chalkhills & Children which is possibly my favourite song of theirs.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

This is turning out to be the weakest stretch of the results so far ...

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

ILM has plenty of luv for Gaucho iirc - I'd imagine it'd place higher if this weren't an 80s poll

This is turning out to be the weakest stretch of the results so far ...

crazy talk

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

xtc/go betweens/steely dan = weak??

xpost lol

just sayin, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Steely Dan fans = most disgusting savages, imo.

emil.y, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

XTC & Steely Dan: Those albums, yes. Weak.
Feelies & Go-Betweens: Apart from a song here and there, I wouldn't even count myself as a fan.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Liberty Belle and Spring Hill Fair which are my two favourites

Those are my two favourites as well! Both fabulous records, just the perfect balance of the sounds that went before and what came after. Ended up not voting for the Go-Betweens at all.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i just do not get 'oranges and lemons' one bit...fortunately, 'nonsuch' was a meteoric improvement

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Steely Dan fans = most disgusting savages, imo.

I used to think this way, but I am slowly beginning to see the light.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Noooooooooo. Another one fallen.

emil.y, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sorry :(

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Oranges & Lemons was my first XTC album but apart from Go 2 and Mummer everyone I bought after I liked a lot more. It's very dated and apart from Chalkhills and Cynical Days there's not much I can remember actually enjoying at all.

You're right about Nonsuch it's a pretty solid album. After reading the XTC book I will never be able to listen to War Dance without thinking of them describing the flute on it as sounding like a singing penis. Wrapped Up Grey is just stunning.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

That said, Gaucho still strikes me a bit of yacht rock tokenism. I've learned to like it, but its hard to deny that some songs, some vamps, are glossy, empty filler. Who indentifies with this prickly, cynical, album, who loves it? I can respect it, but that doesn't make a top 30 or top 100 placement...

Biodegradable (Derelict), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

but its hard to deny that some songs, some vamps, are glossy, empty filler.

haha what. no it isn't!

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The Nightfly > Gaucho

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

iatee, I've listened to the album 10 times in the past decade, but had no mental recall of "Glamour Profession" or "My Rival" just now. Its well and good to admire "Babylon Sisters", "Hey 19" or "3rd World Man", but we're talking the top 50 of the decade.

Biodegradable (Derelict), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

The Nightfly > Steely Dan

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

im loving the feelies thank you ilx

liverpolol da don (a hoy hoy), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't doubt that it's not your fav steely dan album, I just think you shouldn't rule out the possibility that plenty of people do rate it up there w/ their best.

placed 2nd in this poll: Best Steely Dan/Donald Fagen/Walter Becker Album and basically tied w/ all of the albums in this one POLL: Best Steely Dan album

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

haha oops 2nd one is POLL: Best Steely Dan album

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

iatee: The poll thread said something to me, which is that Gaucho fans were responding to its enervated, brink of hangover atmosphere. The pervading sense that you're about to go to bed with someone you don't like that much, and probably won't call again after this night. And yeah, I can understand that - there's more movement, even smudges of joy, elsewhere in the catalogue. So on the argument that Gaucho is not a song album, but the ambient album of dissipation, I can understand its placing. There aren't that many re-listenable albums capturing that self-digust.

Biodegradable (Derelict), Friday, 27 November 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)

http://lineout.thestranger.com/files/2008/10/REM_Reckoning_cover.jpg

Reckoning is the sentimental favorite and I'm going with it cuz I like the filler on it more than Murmur even if Reckoning is a little more trad. Kinda like Slanted & Enchanted vs. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain in a lot of ways (I also go with Crooked there).

Both are beautiful. Psych-folk-disco! I keep meaning to through on some early R.E.M. and always forget.

― miccio (miccio), 24. helmikuuta 2005 1:26

Unimpeachable album, though strangely the "hits" here, Rockville & So. Central, are probably my LEAST favorite of the singles of this area. Almost impossible for me to choose between the similarly gorgeous, vague, uplifting "Harborcoat," "7 Chinese Bros." and "Camera," but the one that's in my head most often of these is los Bros. so let's go with them.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), 21. joulukuuta 2008 7:27

If I had to get by with only one REM album, this would be the one for me. It is the first one I heard, I got it on tape after seeing REM play So. Central Rain on the old NBC Letterman Show. There are about five songs that I love equally and really I like them all.

Peter Bucks guitar on Pretty Persuasion and Harborcoat is really great. I have no idea what he is doing or how he exactly got it to sound that way, but it is a forceful jangle and not just rattling on an F chord like some of the sound alike groups from the same period.

― earlnash, 23. joulukuuta 2008 7:36

is this one overrated? People tend to gush about Murmur but this seems to get filed away as "son of Murmur". This one's less murky overall, more shimmering, with a slightly wider palette of song-types in my estimation: Dad, "Rockville" *is* country, "So. Central High" is gothier than anything off Murmur and leads towards Fables, and "Time After Time" and "Camera" are still pretty unique in their catalogue.

― Euler, 11. tammikuuta 2009 16:20

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I just listened to that Feelies album for the first time, and could not really get into it. It's that twichy nervous post-punk edginess I could never get into. I did recognize the sound right away, as the "Smithereens" soundtrack is one of my all-time favorite film soundtracks.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I'm on the same page w/r/t the feelies

iatee, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

love crazy rhythms. good earth is generic jangle pop tho.

abanana, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

raised eyebrows is a true jam if u cant get w/that enjoy a lyfe empty of meaning and beauty u feeb

¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ (Lamp), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)

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strong contender for my top 20 rock albums ever

every song makes me want to yell

― 69, 25. kesäkuuta 2009 1:19

the first beefheart i ever heard, because for whatever reasons it was the only beefheart album my dad had. sort of blew my mind. used to have a cassette of it i listened to a fair amount, but i haven't heard it in years. i remember "making love to a vampire with a monkey on my knee" fondly.

― us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), 25. kesäkuuta 2009

Beef's use of mellotron on "Doc at Radar Station" some of the best ever; Van Vliet referred to the sound as "mentholated" and that about sums it up. Have been listening to the latest Waits and while a bit tiresome over the long haul, a worthy addition to the mentholated tradition.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), 2. marraskuuta 2004

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Love the title track of Crazy Rhythms (as do all people who are not dead I guess) but was always left a bit cold by the rest of it. Maybe in honour of this poll I should dig it out again.

subtyll cauillacyons (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 27 November 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i like most of these albums so far a bunch. i've owned or own the majority of them. i'd say if i disagreed with anything being on here it would probably be kiss me kiss me kiss me and nebraska. just cuz i like EVERY 80's cure album more than KM3 and the springsteen album is way overrated. and boring. and the songs aren't even that well written. got no problem with the other springsteen choices though. even if i would never listen to them.

scott seward, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)

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If you are taking part in the This Nation's Saving Grace pull-out-a-thon, and you get to "Gut Of The Quantifier", I think you will know the song that made me really and honestly say "that's it, I am truly in love with this band"

― Bimble (bimble), 30. toukokuuta 2004

at the time i got this album, our neighbor was trying to get us evicted. our rental agency was on our side, and it was always my fantasy to blare "my new house" while grinning/staring maniacally at our neighbor while he walked his dog

ITS GOT WINDOW SILLS-AH

― jake in portland (cerybut), 30. toukokuuta 2004 2:31

every song here has at least 1 thing in it i love (eg "STICK IN THE MUD! STICK IN THE GUT!" or "what you need: a bit of iggy stooge" or brix quoting russ meyer or...)

so at random, i choose "paintwork"

― lol cool j (donna rouge), 11. joulukuuta 2008

my first fall album...ordered it on the strength of a "10" rating in the big orange book when I was I think 15...didn't know what to think about it...The Fall seemed peculiar bcz the big orange book listed like 30 albums and none of them were rated below a "7" yet they ddin't have any albums in the top 100 list in the back of the book either.

when I was in high school, I would've chosen "Barmy" by a country mile, but now I like "L.A." it's musik-kosmische for the college crowd...

― Hipster Loser-Loser (Drugs A. Money), 17. joulukuuta 2008 16:00

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

This is one of the first real surprises. Thought this would be top 20 fer sure.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone knows that the top 20 will be 6 cure albums, 4 smiths albums, 4 new order albums, 5 cocteau twins albums, and Poison's Open Up And Say...Ahh!

scott seward, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit! did I just get quoted???

(funny thing is, there were 3 Fall albums on my ballot and none of them was TNSG)

RIP Pisces sun, Gemini moon (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 27 November 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeh i would have thought so too, there was a load of fall on the list?

i've found crazy rhythms stubbornly resists my attempts to like it in any way, i was convinced i was going to blown away after reading about if for a good while, but it just sounds like a charmless amalgam of monochrome set and josef k with added irritating drumming.i should give it one more try i suppose, from what i've heard i prefer the good earth. somehow i managed to convince myself i had more important things to do than vote in this last weekend and now i'm completely gripped, i immediately looked for odyshape, before hollywood and ostrich churchyard and flounced off when i couldn't find them. i hope colossal youth, tom tom club do well, but i fear felt may not recover from my lack of tactical voting.

i reckon the stone roses will do surprisingly poorly

cw, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)

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Am I the only person that thinks Daydream Nation is pretention, overblown, overbearing and about 20 minutes too long? It's one of my least favourite SY albums. My opinion (and filter that through my dronerock beautiful-noisenik arse) is:

Search: Bad Moon Rising, Evol (****), Sister (***** - if I had another star, it would get 6 stars, it is that classic!!!), Goo, and about 15 to 20 minutes of Dirty

Destroy: Daydream Nation, the rest of Dirty and everything else that followed up until about NYC Ghosts & Flowers, which basically scrapes by with a ***

I do actually *love* a great deal of Sonic Youth's eirie, spacey, alien, wonky, warped, blissful music. However, also DESTROY: the *entire* NYC Sonic Youth Cult Of Art and all the pretentious jazzwankers who hang out at the Cooler wishing they could be Lee Renaldo. You're not. Now shave off the chin-rag and go home.

Oh, GAWD, why didn't I think of Sonic Youth back in the "Love the band, hate the image" thread?

― masonic boom, 6. kesäkuuta 2001 3:00

Kloppen allemaal, die criteria. Mijn probleem is alleen dat ik de band geen goede liedjes vindt kunnen schrijven. Van de ultieme noise- orkaan op Sonic Death tot aan Bad Moon Rising heb ik geen klachten. Vanaf Evol begonnen de songwritertalenten zich te ontpoppen, en de platen me steeds minder te boeien. Maar Sonic Youth is een band in ontwikkeling, nog steeds: en da's heel erg oké.

Soms raak je elkaar kwijt, soms vindt je elkaar weer terug. Time will tell....

― Roger Teeling, 29. toukokuuta 2002 3:00

EVOL, people, the answer is EVOL. From the first split second that "Tom Violence" commences, you're on an unstoppable train to change.

Sister was rather f*cking excellent too though, mind you.

― FmGT, 23. kesäkuuta 2007 12:54

my answer would have been sister until about two years ago when i rediscovered EVOL. the perfect blend of noise and pretty. Star power baby!

― yussel, 23. kesäkuuta 2007 15:00

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I have no idea what the music's like, but that's a nice cover.

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Evol is my favorite Sonic Youth album. I listened to it on headphones a lot on family car trips and it gave the sage and scrub of the landscape all this dark, evocative power.

mascara and ties (Abbott), Friday, 27 November 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

This Nation's Saving Grace is the one they tacked "Cruiser's Creek" too, right?

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I love that we're getting quotes from De Subjectivisten.

mascara and ties (Abbott), Friday, 27 November 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

EVOL is my second favorite Sonic Youth which meant it didn't make my ballot. Glad it did well though.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)

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Yes, Goddammit, where is the love for NEW DAY RISING. Spectacular from end to end, even errr... the less than spectacular parts. Title track is bliss.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), 8. huhtikuuta 2005

I think New Day Rising is my favorite too but I like them all so who knows. Newest Industry and Chartered Trips are my favorite songs though. I remember getting Metal Circus in high school and being totally freaked out by Diane. The production on the later records bothers me way more than on the early stuff. In fact I don't notice it at all up through New Day Rising.

― dan. (dan.), 8. huhtikuuta 2005

The Living End, then Zen & Rising, broke my brain &, in essence, birthed my full-on indie wuv when I first heard them 10+ years ago (w/ Sugar serving as the womb). Then I went through a phase where I disowned Husker. Then I felt a little nostalgic (& glommed onto Everything Falls Apart, because it sounded fresh to me). Then I TOTALLY disowned them. Now, I think I'm ambivalent & nostalgically curious, tho I don't think I'll ever hear what I heard way back when now, which is to be expected, but still disappointing. Not that I really need to hear them ever again - I can probably bring up any song from those 2 records at any time in my noggin. Except for the cat skinning one (which I really like). And "59 Times The Pain" can go trip on a bear trap.

― David R. (popshots75`), 8. huhtikuuta 2005 17:56

I'm totally wearing a big eye-piercing orange New Day Rising shirt today

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), 8. huhtikuuta 2005 18:46

Tuomas, Friday, 27 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

This Nation's Saving Grace is the one they tacked "Cruiser's Creek" too, right?

― EZ Snappin, Friday, November 27, 2009 1:46 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yes, it was "Barmy" in the UK iirc. One of my two Fall LP votes. I also voted for EVOL.

ick, I really don't like NDR very much as a whole but that bodes well for Zen Arcade.

sleeve, Friday, 27 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

my 2nd top 5 pick...MP II wz #5, and EVOL wz #3

I hope Cosmic Thing (#4) makes it but I have my doubts...

RIP Pisces sun, Gemini moon (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 27 November 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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