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1966 Otis Redding, Complete and Unbelievable: The Otis Redding Dictionary of Soul
1967 The Who, The Who Sell Out
1968 Love, Forever Changes
1969 Gilberto Gil, Gilberto Gil
1970 Curtis Mayfield, Curtis
1971 Sly and the Family Stone, There’s a Riot Goin’ On
1972 Todd Rundgren, Something/Anything?
1973 Al Green, Call Me
1974 Ann Peebles, I Can’t Stand the Rain
1975 The Ohio Players, Honey
1976 Thin Lizzy, Jailbreak
1977 Parliament, Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
1978 Talking Heads, More Songs About Buildings and Food
1979 The B-52’s, The B-52’s
1980 The Clash, Sandinista!
1981 Prince, Controversy
1982 ABC, The Lexicon of Love
1983 Prince, 1999
1984 Kurtis Blow, Ego Trip
1985 The Minutemen, Double Nickels on the Dime
1986 XTC, Skylarking
1987 LL Cool J, Bigger and Deffer
1988 EPMD, Strictly Business
1989 Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation 1814
1990 Shonen Knife, Shonen Knife
1991 De La Soul, De La Soul Is Dead
1992 The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
1993 Liz Phair, Exile in Guyville
1994 Common Sense, Resurrection
1995 Whale, We Care
1996 Henry Threadgill and Make a Move, Where’s Your Cup?
1997 Pizzicato Five, Happy End of the World
1998 Gomez, Bring It On
1999 Caetano Veloso, Livro
2000 Erykah Badu, Mama’s Gun
2001 Bersuit Vergabarat, Hijos del Culo
2002 Blackalicious, Blazing Arrow

Neudonym, Monday, 3 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

and, why not, singles for each year from, why not, 1950:

1950 Hank Snow: "I'm Movin' On"
1951 The Larks: "My Reverie"
1952 The "5" Royales: "Laundromat Blues"
1953 The Crows: "Gee"
1954 Elvis Presley: "That's All Right (Mama)"/"Blue Moon of Kentucky"
1955 Chuck Berry: "Maybellene"
1956 James Brown: "Please Please Please"
1957 Jerry Lee Lewis: "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On"
1958 Link Wray & His Ray Men: "Rumble"
1959 The Flamingos: "I Only Have Eyes for You"
1960 Jerry Butler: "He Will Break Your Heart"
1961 Ben E. King: "Stand By Me"
1962 Little Eva: "The Loco-Motion"
1963 The Beatles: "Please Please Me"
1964 Dionne Warwick: "Walk on By"
1965 Bob Dylan: "Like a Rolling Stone"
1966 ? & the Mysterians: "96 Tears"
1967 Smokey Robinson & the Miracles: "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage"
1968 Sly & the Family Stone: "Everyday People"
1969 The Rolling Stones: "Honky Tonk Women"/"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
1970 James Brown: "Get Up I Feel Like Being a Sex Machine Pt. 1 & 2"
1971 Temptations: “Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)”
1972 Stevie Wonder: “Superstition”
1973 Marvin Gaye: “Let’s Get It On”
1974 Gloria Gaynor: “Never Can Say Goodbye”
1975 Jacob Miller: “Baby I Love You So”/Augustus Pablo: “King Tubby’s Meets Rockers Uptown”
1976 The Sex Pistols: “Anarchy in the U.K.”
1977 The Sex Pistols: “God Save the Queen”
1978 The Clash: “(White Man) in Hammersmith Palais”
1979 Chic: “Good Times”
1980 Joy Division: “Love Will Tear Us Apart”
1981 Funky 4 + 1: “That’s the Joint”
1982 New Order: “Temptation”
1983 George Clinton: “Atomic Dog”
1984 Prince: “When Doves Cry”/“17 Days”
1985 Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam with Full Force: “I Wonder If I Take You Home”
1986 Prince & the Revolution: “Kiss”
1987 Public Enemy: “Rebel without a Pause”
1988 Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock: “It Takes Two”
1989 Rythim is Rythim: “Strings Of Life”
1990 Beltram: “Energy Flash”
1991 Nirvana: “Smells Like Teen Spirit”
1992 Acen: “Trip II the Moon”
1993 Bikini Kill: “New Radio”/“Rebel Girl”/“Demirep”
1994 M People: “Excited”
1995 Everything But the Girl: “Missing (Todd Terry Club Mix)”
1996 Blackstreet: “No Diggity”
1997 Sneaker Pimps: “Spin Spin Sugar (Armand’s Dark Garage Mix)”
1998 Fatboy Slim: “The Rockafeller Skank”
1999 Powerhouse featuring Duane Harden: “What You Need”
2000 OutKast: "B.O.B."
2001 Missy Elliott: "Get Ur Freak On"
2002 Nas: "Made You Look"
2003 (so far): Electric Six: "Danger! High Voltage," but don't hold me to it

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, Matos' list is correct about 1990, so replace Shonen Knife on mine and replace with Mama Said Knock You Out. This leaves LL and Prince as only artists to repeat on my list, which shocks the hell out of me.

But I've had second thoughts about a few of these--Stevie Wonder has to have his no-seeing ass on the list. Replace Rundgren with Music of My Mind by Stevie Wonder, then, but although Songs in the Key of Life is probably a better record than Jailbreak, keep Lizzy on for fun.

Matos and I agree on four records, then; Hongro on one; JBR and I agree on none; Murphy on none; Blount on none.

Neudonym, Monday, 3 March 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://tinyurl.com/6rqy

http://tinyurl.com/6rr8

Yea, this guy is a compulsive troll. Notice in the second thread (which seems to be his grand entrance to USENET) how many newsgroups its crossposted to (seven) and how its essentially tailor made to incite anger in each. For instance, his claim that people are tiring of hip-hop back in 1996 and then the act of xposting it to alt.rap. Not to mention that in retrospect this looks hilarious.

He'd be ingenious if the methodology hadn't already been being used for many years by other far more successful internet whacks. So, if thee be smart, learn from the mistakes of others before you; don't feed the trolls.

-
Alan

Alan Conceicao, Monday, 3 March 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

maybe he's genuine, though. i've read his home page and it's got a "history of melodic pop".

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe he's just a long-term idiot.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

A history of melodic pop by Geir...
http://home.online.no/~knhongro/Geir/pop/History.htm

it only goes up to 97. [when is 98, 99, 00, 01, 02 going to be documented?]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have stopped updating that page, and I doubt I will ever find the time to update it again

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

98 is the year Melody died.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, obviously, at the end, I would now have had Travis, Coldplay, Doves and Electric Soft Parade mentioned. And even some American acts like Cotton Mather and Flaming Lips.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha ha Nick, 98 was Embrace's debut ! what does Geir think of English melodic rock band, Embrace?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not that much of a fan of Embrace. OK, but no more than that. Along with Stereophonics, Embrace is the most overrated of those traditional melodic rock bands. Their songs simply aren't good enough.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Re: I doubt I will ever find the time to update it again

Right, I see you must be too busy with ILM and other music forums, these days Geir?

Re: Embrace: Their songs simply aren't good enough.

[Correct.]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

my god, its like a couple of robots talking

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Geir, I think everyone is fine with you having your opinion, but the way you make your statement is what is keeping others from respecting your views. You seem to think that your opinion is fact, your subjective tastes are objective reality. If you were to say "I don't like stuff that has no melody or places too much emphasis on rhythm" that would be fine, but you dismiss whole genres of music (as well as one-third of the holy trinity of music: melody, harmony, and rhythm) just because they don't suit your tastes or give you what YOU desire when YOU listen to music.
This outlook is very childish and I hope that you are under 18, because that is how you come across to us. Do you really think that all these millions of people who like rap/techno/all others who aren't Genesis are stupid? that we don't know good music? Do you realize how snobbish that makes you?

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

guys, seriously, take up knitting, play super mario brothers, do anything else.

oh, i can't resist

geir what do you think of harmolodics?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, whether I write it or not, there is obviously an IMO attached to everything I write anyway.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

geir, out of interest, does yr search for perfect melody stop short of underground and independent pop music? or is it restricted to major label/subsidiary groups? could you discern melody from say, skinned teen or the more poppy moments of throbbing gristle?

schnell schnell, Monday, 3 March 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

As long as it sounds like the best melodic stuff from mainstream labels throughout rock history, then fine to me. If it sounds completely different from, say, The Beatles, then it leaves me cold.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Btw. someone suggested we list singles rather than albums. Here is my list of best tracks (i.e. not neccessarily singles) from each year:

1959: Buddy Holly: It Doesn't Matter Anymore
1960: The Shadows: Apache
1961: Del Shannon: Hats Off To Larry
1962: The Beatles: PS I Love You
1963: The Beatles: From Me To You
1964: The Beatles: I Should Have Known Better
1965: Beach Boys: California Girls
1966: Beach Boys: God Only Knows
1967: The Beatles: Strawberry Fields Forever
1968: The Zombies: A Rose For Emily
1969: The Turtles: You Showed Me
1970: Beach Boys: At My Window
1971: Beach Boys: Till I Die
1972: Genesis: Supper's Ready
1973: Genesis: Firth Of Fifth
1974: Supertramp: Hide In Your Shell
1975: Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody
1976: Genesis: Mad Man Moon
1977: ELO: Wild West Hero
1978: Genesis: Burning Rope
1979: 20/20: Yellow Pills
1980: Japan: Gentlemen Take Polaroids
1981: Japan: Ghosts
1982: Spongetones: She Goes Out With Everybody
1983: Depeche Mode: The Landscape Is Changing
1984: Depeche Mode: Blasphemous Rumours
1985: Dire Straits: Your Latest Trick
1986: Depeche Mode: Black Celebration
1987: Dukes Of Stratosphear: Collideascope
1988: Crowded House: Better Be Home Soon
1989: Paul McCartney: My Brave Face
1990: Prefab Sprout: Jesse James
1991: Crowded House: Four Seasons In One Day
1992: The Cure: Friday I'm In Love
1993: Crowded House: Fingers Of Love
1994: Dodgy: Staying Out For The Summer
1995: Blur: Country House
1996: Ocean Colour Scene: The Day We Caught The Train
1997: Radiohead: Exit Music (For Films)
1998: Catatonia: Road Rage
1999: Cotton Mather: Camp Hill Rail Operator
2000: a-ha: Minor Earth Major Sky
2001: Electric Soft Parade: Silent To The Dark
2002: Doves: There Goes The Fear

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

b-but harmolodics?!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Your lists is severly lacking in MONKEES.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

What would harmolodics mean anyway. Sure, melody and harmony are very much two sides of the same story, and they do belong together.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Harmolodics

Voordat ik kennis maakte met de toonklok werkte ik veel met het 12-toons systeem van Schönberg. Vanuit de behoefte een jazzy sound te creëren gebruikte ik in die periode vaak complementaire vierklanken als in bovenstaand diagram. Drie vierklanken geven immers ook twaalf tonen en zijn dus in de chromatische toonladder ook complementair. De drie vierklanken in het hierboven getoonde diagram bestaan uit gelijke intervallen en zijn symmetrisch. Dat is niet altijd het geval. Een van de eerste combinaties die ik gebruikte bestond uit de volgende vierklanken:
Geanalyseerd vanuit de toonklok is hier een combinatie toegepast van 3 drieklanken van uur XI, waarbij de tonen van de 4e (As mineur) over de andere drie verdeeld zijn. Een goed inzicht in de toonklok maakt het mogelijk ook dergelijke groepen sneller te herkennen en samen te stellen. Bijvoorbeeld afgeleid van het twaalfde uur:

Beluister muziek fragment met RealPlayer G2 0'21"
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In "The Phare of Biarritz" heb ik deze akkoordengroep toegepast. In het volgende voorbeeld zijn de overmatige drieklanken uit de vierklanken geïsoleerd.

Een andere manier om tot vierklanken te komen is de stuurtonen te maken tot toongroepen. De stuurgroepen bestaan namelijk uit 4 tonen.
Een voorbeeld: Uur XI wordt gestuurd door uur VI. Als uur XI bestaat uit de akkoorden
E mineur Fis mineur Gis majeur Ais majeur
dan is de stuurgroep: E Fis Gis Ais. Neem je hiervan de eerste omkering, dan ontstaat er een Fis79 accoord zonder kwint. De hele groep van complementaire vierklanken, die weer af te leiden is van het zesde uur is:
De twaalfde uur variatie is te horen in de alt-solo en de bas-solo van "2soon2die"; de elfde uur variatie in de bas-solo van "Onweer", en de C-melody-saxsolo in dezelfde compositie is gebaseerd op de zesde uur variatie. Beide composities zijn te vinden op de CD "Ear Opener" van het Theo Hoogstins Octet.
Dit zijn slechts enkele voorbeelden van toepassingen van de toonklok. De mogelijkheden zijn vrijwel onbeperkt, denk maar aan transpositie van harmonieën, toepassingen in lintharmonisaties waarbij het mogelijk is twee linten die op verschillende uren zijn gebaseerd gezamenlijk te laten klinken. Ook als analysemodel is de toonklok al zeer waardevol gebleken, bijvoorbeeld in het artikel uit Entre’Act van Andre Douw. Concluderend kan worden gesteld dat de ordening van tonen, zoals weergegeven in de toonklok, kan leiden tot een andere kijk op zowel componeren als improviseren. Het is een allesomvattend systeem voor harmonie in de chromatische toonladder, dat een componist in staat stelt het hele scala van klankkleuren te overzien en op een consistente manier toe te passen. Het kost misschien enige tijd en studie om een dergelijke manier van werken onder de knie te krijgen, maar het is zeker de moeite waard voor musici die op zoek zijn naar nieuwe klankstructuren. Dat de beschreven klanken thuis horen in het jazzidioom blijkt wel uit de kop van de recensie van Frans van Leeuwen: "Hoogstins klinkt jazzy en vertrouwd" (NRC, 7/10/92).

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jess, why are you torturing yourself this way?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Btw. Cotton Mather is one band that would ride high in a lot of my lists, and they are definitely very much an underground band. Same about Merrymakers (although they do have a contract with the Swedish branch of a major one)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ik snak niet nederlandse....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

ned, apparently you've never applied a clothespin to your nipples for fun...same thing

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Speaking of Buddy Holly, Geir -- I'm back -- he made at least one great, consistent album while he was alive (I think it was called "And His Chirping Crickets" or something). Chuck Berry's 50s albums are top notch as well, as are Big Joe Turner's and other rock-related artists, so I don't buy into your opinion that consistent albums started with the Beatles.

Harmolodics? I doubt Geir has even heard of Ornette or anyone else who practices it.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

If there was such a thing as good pre-Beatles "rock", then Buddy Holly came close to it. I am bored by those songs he did that were using the same old tired 12 bar blues scheme that way too many 50s songs were built on, but when he managed to go beyond that and create songs with some harmonic variation, in a more Tin Pan Alley oriented style, then he was actually quite good. Funny how my favourite 1959 song wasn't actually composed by Holly/Petty though, but rather than Paul Anka.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

44 years=29 artists, all of whom are Caucasian

Obv. you have a very limited range of music that you enjoy and a very limited definition of what music can be and what moods it can create. Can't you just own up to this (there's nothing wrong w/it, per se) rather than dismiss all music that doesn't fit your narrow expectations? This is I Love MUSIC, afterall, not I Love All That is Beatlesque.

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

GEIR DO YOU LIKE THE DR WHO SOUNDTRACK BY DELIA DERBYSHIRE DAT IS PURE RAUCOUS MELODY MADE ON MACHINES MADNESS!

schnell schnell, Monday, 3 March 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

This was hard...

1977 David Bowie, Low
1978 P.I.L., Public image
1979 Chic, Risque
1980 Prince, Dirty mind
1981 Human League, Dare (hehe, I love this now!)
1982 ABC, The lexicon of love
1983 Aztec Camera, High land hard rain
1984 The Smiths, Hatful of hollow
1985 Scritti Politti, Cupid and psyche 85
1986 Slayer, Reign in blood
1987 Sonic Youth, Sister
1988 AR Kane, 69
1989 New Order, Technique
1990 Ice Cube, Amerikkka's most wanted
1991 Nirvana, Nevermind
1992 Pavement, Slanted and enchanted
1993 Nirvana, In utero
1994 Notorious BIG, Ready to die
1995 Fatboy Slim, Better living through chemistry
1996 Tortoise-Millions now living will never die
1997 Chemical Brothers, Dig your own hole
1998 Mercury Rev, Deserters songs
1999 Wilco, Summerteeth
2000 Radiohead, Kid A
2001 Daft Punk, Discovery
2002 The Streets-Original pirate material\Sonic Youth-Murray Street


Michael B, Monday, 3 March 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love how Blount listed shitloads of comedy albums; I wish I knew more comedy records

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 3 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

'YR: Album; Single
'76: Stevie Wonder – Songs in the Key of Life; Cloud One – Disco Juice
'77: Brian Eno – Before and After Science; Roy Ayers – Running Away
'78: Magazine – Real Life; Martin Circus – Disco Circus
'79: PiL – Metal Box; Wire – Map Ref. 41ºN 93ºW
'80: Talking Heads – Remain in Light; Taana Gardner - Work That Body
'81: Associates – Fourth Drawer Down; Logg – I Know You Will
'82: Simple Minds – New Gold Dream 81-82-83-84; Klein + MBO – Dirty Talk
'83: The Cocteau Twins – Head Over Heels; Captain Rapp - Bad Times
'84: Prince & the Revolution - Purple Rain; Prince & the Revolution – When Doves Cry
'85: The Jesus & Mary Chain – Psychocandy; Prince & the Revolution – Raspberry Beret
'86: Throwing Muses – Throwing Muses; Rhythim Is Rhythim – Nude Photo
'87: Prince – Sign o’ the Times; Jamie Principle – Your Love
'88: AR Kane - 69; The House of Love – Christine
'89: AR Kane – "i"; Inner City – Good Life
'90: Ice Cube: AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted; Paris - Break the Grip of Shame
'91: Main Source – Breaking Atoms; The Geto Boys – Mind Playing Tricks On Me
'92: Kitchens of Distinction – The Death of Cool; Curve – Horror Head
'93: The Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen; Catherine Wheel – Crank
'94: Bark Psychosis – Hex; Disco Inferno – It’s a Kid’s World
'95: GZA – Liquid Swords; Lemon D – This Is Los Angeles
'96: Porter Ricks – Biokinetics; Moodymann – Don’t Be Misled
'97: Carl Craig – More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art; Monolake – Lantau
'98: Urban Tribe – The Collapse of Modern Culture; New Radicals – You Get What You Give
'99: Basement Jaxx – Remedy; Pepe Bradock – Deep Burnt
'00: Black Box Recorder – The Facts of Life; Theo Parrish – Summertime Is Here
'01: Basement Jaxx – Rooty; Afronaught – Transcend Me
'02: Metro Area - Metro Area; 4hero – Hold It Down [Bugz in the Attic Remix]

Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

ned, apparently you've never applied a clothespin to your nipples for fun

I am content to not follow where others lead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

1972 Tim Buckley, _Greetings From L.A_
1973 Pink Floyd, _Dark Side_
1974 David Bowie, _Diamond Dogs_
1975 Camel, _The Snow Goose_
1976 Squeeze, _How Dare You_
1977 Pink Floyd, _Animals_
1978 AC/DC, _Powerage_
1979 Squeeze, _Cool For Cats_
1980 The Soft Boys, _Underwater Moonlight_
1981 The Replacements, _Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash_
1982 (no clue)
1983 Talking Heads, _Speaking In Tongues_
1984 R.E.M, _Murmur_
1985 Tears For Fears, _Songs From The Big Chair_
1986 Firehose, _Ragin' Full On_/Green River, _Dry As A Bone_
1987 R.E.M, _Document_
1988 Megadeath, _So Far, So Good, So What_
1989 Camper Van Beethoven, _Key Lime Pie_
1990 The Breeders, _Pod_
1991 Matthew Sweet, _Girlfriend_
1992 Helmet, _Meantime_
1994 Del The Funky Homosapien, _No Need For Alarm_
1995 Eleven, _Thunk_
1996 Phish, _Billy Breathes_
1997 Radiohead, _OK Computer_/Supergrass, _In It For The Money_
1998 Beck, _Mutations_
1999 The Dismemberment Plan, _Emergency & I_
2000 Grandaddy, _The Sophtware Slump_/Deltron 3030, _S/T_
2001 (too many good albums, can't decide)
2002 Pedro The Lion, _Control_
2003 The Postal Service, _Give Up_ (so far)

The R.E.M albums are there by default, I don't listen to 80s music much.

Like all my lists, this is totally arbitrary, and if I re-created
it tommorow it would be completely different.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Replace

1976 Squeeze _How Dare You_

with

1976 10cc _How Dare You_

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I actually like Geir's favorite 1979 album* more than Matos's! (And more than Michael B's, too!! I honestly think Chic peaked with the album with "Le Freak" and "At Last I Am Free" on it; *Risque, the followup to that album, has always been a little overrated. As I'm sure Geir would agree.) I also think Geir is right about "Little Pills" by 20/20 being great, though clearly he forgot all about Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff"/"Bad Girls" when selecting his fave 1979 single -- just an oversight, I'm sure!:-) As for Genesis, they clearly became less soulless when they sold (and souled) out in the early '80s. (And is *Snow Goose the Camel album with "Remote Romance"? I forget.)

* which is also SQUIRREL's favorite 1979 album! (But not mine. Tossup between, I dunno, *Live at the Witch Trials, *Head Games, *Bad Girls, *A Tonic for the Troops, *Strange Spirits, *Cuba, *Cory and Me, *Get the Knack, *Off the Wall, and oh yeah, the American version of *The Clash if that counts......Best year EVER, maybe??? No argument here.)

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

I still think of *Metal Box as 1980, though. (Which is to say I still think of it as *Second Edition, being an ugly Amuhrican and all.)

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

And I left *Look Sharp off just to piss off Miccio.

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would also like to point out that Geir also has a far more exciting and less stodgy taste in singles from 1961 and 1962 than Michaealangelo does. Which counts for something, right?

Squirrel Police has pretty good taste in the mid-to-late '70s.

James Blount on the other hand, is a really smart EARLY '70s guy.

Neudonym was very courageous (and right as well) in not replacing Thin Lizzy in 1976 with Stevie Wonder.

Andy K's, Michael B's, Jody Beth Rosen's and Michaelangelo's album tastes all start out truly great, then go way downhill from there (with occasional obvious exceptions).

All of this probably says more about me than about any of them.

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

>>maybe he's genuine, though. i've read his home page and it's got a "history of melodic pop". <<

Not likely. Everything he does screams "I AM TROLL, HEAR ME ROAR". From the dismissal of entire genres (and the threads crossposted into the newsgroups following them) and declarations like "Long live real music played by real people," it comes down to the old "if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its probably a duck" adage.

Just that he's a troll, not a duck. You know. and stuff.

As for the website, its a "ready made" reference that he can point at to "prove" his point. Kinda like when a christian fundie references some Baptist site or what have you.

-
Alan

Alan Conceicao, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I AM TROLL, HEAR ME ROAR".
If I (intentionally) trolled more often, I'd love to use this as my motto.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

>>Geir also has a far more exciting and less stodgy taste in singles from 1961 and 1962 than Michaealangelo does.<<

Ooops! I meant 1960 and 1961, sorry. (In fact, anybody who doesn't believe that Geir loves black music should explain why the Roots are just now ripping off his favorite 1960 single in "Thought @ Work.") (Okay, ripping off the Incredible Bongo Band's and Sugarhill Gang's COVER versions of his favorite 1960 single. But you get the point.)

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

How is it that you guys can remember what year everything was released? Do you keep your record collections in chronological order or something?

Also, who is the 1979 album "Cuba" by? I can't find it on AMG.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

*Cuba is by the Gibson Brothers. (But not THOSE Gibson Brothers, duh!)

chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mine, fromt he year I started taking music seriously.

1992 - The Prodigy - Experience
1993 - the Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
1994 - Blur - Parklife
1995 - Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do
1996 - Boo Radleys - Come On Kids
1997 - Radiohead - OK Computer
1998 - Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
1999 - Plaid - Restproof Clockwork
2000 - Two Lone Swordsmen - Tiny Reminders (very tough one that!)
2001 - Air - 10,000hz the Legend
2002 - Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors

is that fair enough?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

My list is post-grad boring. Sorry. Decided to start at '65 because I couldn't think of any albums before then I really love other than Kind of Blue and Giant Steps (keeping in mind a self-enforced one entry per artist rule, which I really wish Geir could have done because YES HE LIKES GENESIS WE GET THE POINT).

1965: Bob Dylan, Highway 61 Revisited; The Beatles, "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"
1966: The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds; Sam & Dave, "Hold On, I'm Comin'"
1967: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Are You Experienced; Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, "Electricity"
1968: The Zombies, Odessey & Oracle; Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell, "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing"
1969: Sly and the Family Stone, "Stand!"; The Isley Brothers, "It's Your Thing"
1970: The Stooges, Fun House; James Brown, "Super Bad Pts 1 and 2"
1971: Funkadelic, Maggot Brain; The Rolling Stones, "Dead Flowers"
1972: Curtis Mayfield, Superfly; Steely Dan, "Do It Again"
1973: Pink Floyd, The Dark Side of the Moon; Jimmy Cliff, "Many Rivers to Cross"*
1974: The Sweet, Desolation Boulevard; Stevie Wonder, "Livin' For the City"
1975: The Patti Smith Group, Horses; Bruce Springsteen, "Born To Run"
1976: Ramones; The Bee Gees, "You Should Be Dancing"
1977: Television, Marquee Moon; The Adverts, "Gary Gilmore's Eyes"
1978: Kraftwerk, The Man-Machine; Radio Birdman. "Non-Stop Girls"
1979: The Clash, London Calling; Van Halen, "Dance the Night Away"
1980: X, Los Angeles; The Soft Boys, "I Wanna Destroy You"
1981: The Police, Ghost in the Machine; The Specials, Ghost Town**
1982: Michael Jackson, Thriller; Afrika Bambaataa and the Soulsonic Force, "Planet Rock"
1983: The Replacements, Hootenanny; ESG, "Moody (Spaced Out)"
1984: Prince, Purple Rain; Husker Du, "Standing By the Sea"
1985: Tom Waits, Rain Dogs; LL Cool J, "Rock the Bells"
1986: RUN-D.M.C., Raising Hell; Pet Shop Boys, "West End Girls"
1987: Boogie Down Productions, Criminal Minded; Meat Beat Manifesto, "Cutman"
1988: Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back; Eric B & Rakim, "Follow the Leader"
1989: The Beastie Boys, Paul's Boutique; Jungle Brothers, "What 'U' Waitin' 4?"
1990: Mudhoney, Superfuzz Bigmuff/Early Singles***; Main Source, "Looking At the Front Door"
1991: De La Soul is Dead; Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
1992: Sonic Youth, Dirty; The Pharcyde, "Passin' Me By"
1993: Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers; Souls of Mischief, "'93 'Til Infinity"
1994: Beck, Mellow Gold; Bikini Kill, "Rebel Girl"****
1995: Elastica; Garbage, "Stupid Girl"
1996: DJ Shadow, Entroducing; Ghostface Killah, "Daytona 500"
1997: Chemical Brothers, Dig Your Own Hole; Busta Rhymes, "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"
1998: Massive Attack, Mezzanine; The Coup, "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"
1999: Prodigy Present the Dirtchamber Sessions Vol. 1*****; Eminem, "Any Man"
2000: Outkast, Stankonia; Broadcast, "Come On Let's Go"
2001: The Avalanches, Since I Left You; El-P, "Stepfather Factory"
2002: Clinic, Walking With Thee; The Rapture, "House of Jealous Lovers"

*I'm not sure if this is '72 or '73. Please don't make me choose between this song and Steely Dan's finest moment, OK?
**I swear this is a coincidence.
***Yes, this is a reissue of stuff from the late '80s. I don't care. I CHEAT TO WIN
****Wasn't this released every single year in the mid '90s?
*****Yes, a mix CD. It's my list, sucka.

And if it's any consolation to Chuck, Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" almost made it for '81.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Everything he does screams "I AM TROLL, HEAR ME ROAR".

No, Alan. No. Trust me. He's no troll. He's just Geir.

Geir as weekly columnist for the Village Voice = quite possibly the most insane (therefore fantastic) move that could happen. Sign him up, Mr. Eddy. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link


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