Rolling Metal Thread 2009

Yeah I'll probably only have $$ for one thing.

Definitely get Live at Roadburn, but I recommend CD not LP, because it's two long jams, one per disc. Absolutely killer.

Thanks guys.

The eternal question (Do you wear a band's T-shirt when seeing them live?) in poll form: http://bit.ly/4YZjAj

My friend and I were discussing this. We came to the conclusion that it's cool to wear a band shirt to their own concert once they've been around for 25 years, or if they are your very favorite band and it's your first time seeing them.

For Maiden and Rush, it's definitely acceptable. I don't do it myself, but I actually have no problem with folks who do.

sometimes it's just easier to go ahead and put the new t-shirt on than carry it around all night.

But then what d'yo do with the shirt you wore in?

you wear the new shirt over it

wasn't it always kind of a badge of coolness to wear the old rare t-shirt from before the band was popular? or was that just the badge of geekiness?

i often wear shirts for loosely affiliated bands. napalm death at jesu &c

i used to do that when i bought more band t-shirts. i should start buying them again. i wore an ancient aphex twin shirt to a sunn0))) show sort of on accident (was wearing it under my dickies hoodie and i had to take it off). not sure if that is cool or nigel.

xxxxpost yeah, just put it on over the t-shirt you're already wearing. tougher if you have an oxford or sweater or something.

we're talking metal shows, though, aren't we?

yeah, so pretty much you're just putting it on over another t-shirt.

Surely it's best to wear a shirt from every tour the band has done at the same time, layered in reverse chronology.

Over your Oxford or sweater.

usually head to shows straight after work, so I've worn sweaters to metal shows plenty of times. sometimes with collared button-downs underneath, even!

Wore my Severe Torture shirt to a Dead Weather show a couple weeks ago, which turned out to be quite an OTM description of the evening.

I've been wearing my levi jacket with the 2112 back patch everywhere for the last few months and you would not believe how many handshakes I get from strangers.

I can believe the amount of pointing and sniggering you get too

Nah. The days of blindly hating Rush are subsiding.

Baroness has made my favorite record of 2009, but I really felt Earthless (whom I'd never heard before) was the best band on the stage on Friday night at Bowery Ballroom -- to the extent that Baroness seemed kind of dull by comparison. Why would ANYBODY voluntarily follow that?

really? i saw that show on saturday and i thought earthless was really dull. tbh my buddies who play blues rock covers in local bars could just ditch their vocals and songs to focus on jamming and they'd sound a hell of a lot like earthless.

I can't speak for the show itself since I haven't seen them on this tour, but I could totally understand Earthless being boring to a certain type of person. But your second sentence is just whaaaaaa? Its kinda like someone looking at a Pollack painting and thinking "hmm, well, if I had the space I could do THAT".

i cry bullshit too. Earthless are great, go fucking prove you and your buddies can do better.

haha damn guys.

they just sound like an instrumental jammin power trio to me. it's a little boring.

I wasn't clowning you for calling them boring! Twenty minute jams aren't for everyone, I was just clowning the second part about "oh its pretty easy to do".

Hahaha, yeah I thought they were completely, insanely epic. And I don't typically dig 45-minute single-song instrumental sets (in fact, the idea of a 45-minute single-song instrumental set is completely nauseating to me). Dunno why exactly, but they blew me away.

i dunno man, i mean they're good musicians, but like lots of people are good musicians.

I don't get Earthless, either. I wanted to, as a big fan of Loop and Circle and stuff like that, but they just sound like a bluesy jam band to me.

No, I can totally understand where you're coming from, but it just crushed me. Maybe because I didn't know what to expect, and then they delivered something SO humongous and psychedelic and loud. But I just loved it. Would (and will) see them again.

BTW did you guys like Baroness? As I said, they were kind of ruined for me, so opinions from people for whom they weren't ruined are appreciated!

yeah i thought they were good. appreciated some of the blue record material more in a live setting.

Meshuggah live album in early 2010. Title: Alive. Track listing: Perpetual Black Second, Electric Red, Rational Gaze, Pravus, Lethargica, Combustion, Straws Pulled At Random, New Millennium Cyanide Christ, Stengah, The Mouth Licking What You've Bled, Humiliative, Bleed. Listening to it now; it's extremely well recorded and awesome.

Earthless are fucking epic live. If you weren't into it, you just weren't standing close enough.

Sheesh, Meshuggah finally gets around to putting together a definitive live document and there's no "Future Beed Machine"? Weird.

There's supposed to be a DVD coming out too, right?

no "future breed machine" is pretty weird. prob their most popular song.

and I love meshuggah but the prospect of a live album getting me psyched, really. does it bring anything new to the table?

argh.

"but the prospect of a live album isn't exactly getting me psyched"

I saw them live and it was cool except for their super quiet stage volume and the singer's horrible nu-metal monkey dance.

There's supposed to be a DVD coming out too, right?

I believe this is gonna be a CD/DVD set (w/identical track listing). NB is also putting one of these out by Exodus, which I really don't care about.

does it bring anything new to the table?

Not really, no. Really well-recorded, impeccably performed versions of Meshuggah songs with crowd noise in between. And worst of all, as I pointed out on Twitter, you don't get any of Jens Kidman's bizarrely hilarious between-song banter. But at least with the DVD you'll get to see him do that creepy Terminator move he does (what Nate calls the "horrible nu-metal monkey dance").

Yeah, Meshuggah's dry sense of humour is rivalled only by the great Mr. Akerfeldt, who really should have a book of between-song quotes.

Grave Miasma, guys. Grave Miasma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GOs92bYO5w

http://www.hellbound.ca/2009/11/grave-miasma-exalted-emanation/

now that's death metal.

Had some trouble with Gates Of Slumber's Conqueror. Have now bought Hymns Of Blood And Thunder and yyyyeahhh this is more like it. Added NWOBHM feel suits me down to the ground.

Get ready for the ilx metal albums of 2009 nominations thread. Will start it a bit earlier this year so I can let the voting last a week or 2 longer this year and hopefully some of you will not be so burnt out on voting like last year.
Glenn will be co-running it again but he does all the hard work so thanks to him.

NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILX METAL ALBUMS Of 2009 (Closes December 20)

haha, love the metal thread gettin aggro on a dude ^^thread