another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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i liked no country but i like it less & less the more i think about it

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

while i loved zodiac and love it more & more every day

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^^ >>>>>>>> (>>>>>>>) ?

dmr, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i like all three of them more and more with every lovely day.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

but with no country... im not that concerned with figuring out what it means, or what the moral is... i think the meaning is kinda beyond that

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Cassandra’s Dream isn’t prophecy, it’s decadence.

wtf does this even mean

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

agreed, slocks.

the thing i liked the least about zodiac (the uselessness of the rdj character) seems less and less offensive to me every day.

remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

twbb >>>> zodiac (which i liked a lot) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no country for old men (which is doomed to mediocrity by coens' unimaginative fidelity to mediocre source material)

-- tipsy mothra, Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:55 PM

u mad doggie

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

so mad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i just love that the characters never meet and you barely even notice that.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

man he really stuck it to dargis and scott there!!

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The Wind That Shakes The Barley was just okay, but I'll definitely take it over No Country and (most especially) Zodiac.

milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean i really liked wind shakes but i cant say i loved it. maybe i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Imagine a world where every ILE film thread turns into a debate about the relative merits of Bamako, Offside and Away from Her.

I've only read NCfOM, but it didn't impress me as being solely about fate. I have no problem with genre pieces where people do stupid shit, especially in Texas.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

you should see it morbz. and on the big screen.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

offside rules though but you know that.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

no country is ok, competently handled, i didn't hate it. but it's the 5th-best mccarthy book i've read and the, what, 4th- or 5th-best coen film i can think of. its acclaim really does mystify me, but so do lots of things.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

(coen movies i like better: fargo, blood simple, raising arizona, the ladykillers) (ok kidding about the ladykillers. but not kidding about the big lebowski.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.

-- s1ocki, Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

otm

gbx, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

THE LADYKILLERS?!?!?

You are mad.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

xp: yeah, Cillian Murphy shoulda been braying about milkshakes just before he was executed. Instant hype and Oscar noms to follow.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

(ladykillers was a joke)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

you know that's not what i mean.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??"

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

spoilers, yo

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??""

I neither saw or cared much about that parallel.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

at the end when it cuts straight to black and the "IRAQ MUCH?" title card comes up... chills.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

anyway like i said i did like it a lot... but loved it? think it was GREAT? not really.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

ha, s1ocki, if that's your biggest objection to Barley -- it was Armond's too!!

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

NCFOM is better than Fargo. Fargo's too clever clever by a half.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! xp

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i think no country probably their best.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Brother-on-brother stories are as old as civil wars, I didn't really see Iraq at all.

My problem with Barley is that it wasn't humorless so much as emotionless.

milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

ncfom isn't half-clever enough.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I admit I've only begun to think that in the past 10 years. When I saw it initially I thought it was brilliant so I may end up feeling like that about NCFOM in 2020.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

fargo sucks.

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

"ncfom isn't half-clever enough."

It doesn't need to be.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

boring and annoying. i used to kinda like it, too.

omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

xp
Haven't seen anything I loved or thought was great from '07 yet. Or '06 (Inland Empire closest).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

what does that even mean (re: clever/half-clever/whatever)

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i have no idea.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

but among the things i think no country is not enough: clever, interesting, imaginative, smart. funny. scary. sad.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

(which are all things i think twbb and zodiac have plenty of.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Zodiac is a good big-budget cop show (Armond thinks the voices of the men inhabiting it are too high).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

no it's something more than that. you're not going to get away with dismissing a movie for its genre on this board, mister.

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

ok now i agree with slocki.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

fargo sucks.

-- omar little, Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

insane

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

fargo sucks

gabbneb, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

xp

I'm not ... I just didn't find Zodiac an all-too-original example of that genre, the way its fans do.

Fargo is a smug funny-accent travesty.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i love tommy lee jones but his marshall in the fugitive is about 500 times better than his cop in ncfom

and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link


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