i dunno...have any of the kraut dudes ever talked CCR? like frankly i just don't see that as a band they would have been listening to...
― mr. que, covering up the vital parts, lest he embarrass the ladi (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
They don't have to have heard it. It's kind of like calculus being independently invented by Liebniz and Newton.
― o. nate, Monday, 16 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
By the way, Bayou Country (on which "Chooglin" appears) reached #33 on the German charts, so it's pretty likely that the Kraut guys did hear it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creedence_Clearwater_Revival_discography
― o. nate, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
chooglin' has a bluesy shuffle to it that is absent from the motorik beat. it still sounds krauty though
― sackful of hollow (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg44BKJhqk0
― tylerw, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
krauts tsarted rockin and a legend wasb orn
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly there are a million sources for the motorik thing--it's really high-modernist minimalism coupled with rock instrumentation coupled with late-60s tendency for rock bands to jam out. so you are all correct.
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
:D
― tylerw, Monday, 16 November 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
cookies for everybody!
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
krautrock cookies are hella experimental
― mr. que, covering up the vital parts, lest he embarrass the ladi (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
allow cookies
― Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
'bootleg' fits what we're getting athttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4eE3ZxlF28
― andrew m., Monday, 16 November 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
whatever we decide or don't decide, we can agree that Creedence was fucking awesome. also: cookies.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 November 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
also also: hawkwind
― kamerad, Monday, 16 November 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, i haven't really listened to them, but aren't Endless Boogie supposed to sorta be an updated take on canned heat/creedence boogie mixed with kraut motorik/minimalism?
― jaxon, Monday, 16 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
the little i've heard i'd say yeah
― andrew m., Monday, 16 November 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
"Keep on Chooglin" sounds more like motorik to me than anything I've heard by VU.
"The Gift" is pretty motorik, if you ask me.
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Motorik seems to have so infused music in this decade, I gotta wonder if the next decade will produce a Nickleback of motorik.
― bendy, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
... we've already got one, Kasabian
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Well you just got me to listen to a band I'd been ignoring. Can't wait for the North American derivative. I'm thinking the singer should sport a rat tail.
― bendy, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I've been ignoring them as well but I have heard it said they have Krautrock influences - maybe via Primal Scream, rather than directly. Personally I think Primal Scream aren't far off being the Nickelback of Motorik but people seem to take them seriously, for some reason.
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
primal scream are the pearl jam of motorik
― sackful of hollow (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
discussing motorik and the velvets and nobody's mentioned Sister Ray?
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry, I can't get past the krautrock cookies. Mmmmm.
― LOL my penny (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://bigozine2.com/features06/DTkrautrock.html
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link