Why is everyone not going totally bonkers about the junior boys?

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Jammer!

More seriously, Coloma and Junior Boys should remix eachother! And I can imagine Superpitcher doing some great indie-house classic a la "Dream of Evan & Chan" with a lot of the tracks.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:17 (twenty years ago) link

get spiritualized to mix them. they did a good job on lfo.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 8 November 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

morgan geist?

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 8 November 2003 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

[pause] superpitcher... super-pitcher... damn, why do things like this happen in the middle of the night. Wonder if it'll sound as good in my head on Monday.

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

come monday, jst remember how to spell superpitcher!

― brutal (Cozen), Saturday, 8 November 2003 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

Thanks everyone, here's an Xmas card from KIN [shockwave]

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 December 2003 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

When is the next release due?

― pixel, Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

KIN002, the next release is out Feb 2003. Already some strong feedback on the promos that were sent out, notably tufluv and sherburne.

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

Just have to post and say that this is the best music I heard last year. No doubt someone to watch.

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

having just heard this for the first time, i'm gutted that more people weren't telling me about junior boys, and sooner.

last exit is lush.

― Nik (Nik), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

they should be massive, I want everyone to know about them

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Junior Boys
favorite tracks.

― pm, Thursday, 25 December 2003 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

I heard this on the radio the other night, Dj was saying that it was one of 2003's best tracks.

― dr.0845, Friday, 26 December 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

Wow, this sounds nothing like I expected. I love it.

It sounds like Telefon Tel Aviv with vocals except way more sparse.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 27 December 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

can anyone work out the lyrics to the third line of "birthday"? "(something something something something) anyway"?

― kin, Sunday, 28 December 2003 08:49 (twenty years ago) link

not sure of the specifics, but I've never really tried to figure them out: it's so resigned, beautifully mumbled, as if he doesn't really want you to hear him indulging himself. Conversational lyrics done right can really make a track, I'm really pushing to get someone to do a track with a cheesy phone conversation - something like 'Chromeo - Needy Girl', Ken Laszlo - 'Hey Hey Guy', also it gives DJ's sonewhere to mix out.

― nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 28 December 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...

there's a wire review for the second ep

― pm, Saturday, 24 January 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

It took me long enough, but I finally got to hear this. It's even more lame considering I bought the 12" but left London without getting to play it. So, my rereading of this lengthy thread is justified by now being able to give this EP some hearfelt props. I'll order in any future releases til I return home - I'm that impressed.

― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

"High Come Down" isn't very good.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

I bought the first Ep on boomkat and was duly knocked out, and from what I've heard so far "High Come Down" is better than "Birthday" and that's saying something. Can't wait for an album

― pp, Monday, 26 January 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

jed- I love you, but you are mad.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

finally heard 'High Come Down', and while I've been a bit skeptical, when combined with "Birthday", I am now a full fledged totally bonkers Junior Boys fan. Yay.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 07:16 (twenty years ago) link

been listening to a cdr of the two JBeez EPs & The World of Arthur Russell in tandem; some haunted synchronicity going on . . .

(haha when will more material be available? & what's this about Manitoba remixing "Birthday"?)

― etc, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

what some people call "haunted synchronicity" others would call "rip-off."

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

are you seriously simplifying both artists, their backgrounds and the context to suggest JBs are derivative of arthur russell. if anything's tired and derivative, it's your posturing. i mean, jeez...

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

ah, here we go again, express an opinion contrary to the sheep and they "baa" idiotically.

get this straight, the junior boys are not the second coming, they are not god's gift to music (they are not even god's gift the grime mc come to that), they are NOT THAT GREAT.

also arthur russell was and is a genius, i've heard calling out of context, so unless you have as well, then either put up or shut up.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha Phoebe but presumably Junior Boys haven't heard the mysterious Calling Out of Context (or hadn't two years ago when these songs were made) so it's a bit harsh to say rip-off. Plus it ignores all the other sources Junior Boys "rip-off" (Timbaland, 2-step, Gary Numan etc. etc. ad nauseum). "Ripping off" implies intentionality or awareness, and a certain stylistic myopia to boot. I doubt the first applies here and I'm certain the second doesn't.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:00 (twenty years ago) link

well yeah, we've all heard arthur russell with. it's your pompous statement that irks. it's not about junior boys being the second coming, it's about how you can beach up and compare the two without any explanation. where's the link between the two, i don't see it?

you never explain yrself, yr just some tired old patrician.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago) link

Nick Luscombe played the Junior Boys (High Come Down i think) on XFM's 'Flow-motion' on Sunday night - show opener even, good stuff

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

(xpost)

i don't need to explain myself, other people pay me to do that, and i'd rather be a tired old patrician than a futureless pleb like you, so don't try it.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

I'm paid to be polite to people but I don't see why I shouldn't do it for free otherwise.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

OH LORD "DON'T TRY IT" IS BECOMING A MEME.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:18 (twenty years ago) link

yuck - you get paid to write vacuous 100-word reviews for uncut for untutored futureless plebs like me. the only thing i was trying was to get some sense from you. i thought here would be a forum for you to actually say something worth saying, something insightful.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

what a load of tosh. junior senior sound nothing like arthur russell.

― searchanddelete, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago) link

it's a shame the legacy of mister russell has become the province of such tedious breeders.

― how can you not hear the junior senior?, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

arthur russell sounds nothing like the breeders.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:28 (twenty years ago) link

"(Timbaland, 2-step, Gary Numan etc. etc. ad nauseum). "Ripping off" implies intentionality or awareness, and a certain stylistic myopia to boot"

russell nah, myopia meh, and i wouldnt go so far as ripping off but Junior Boys Influences TM like the above have been part of the propaganda since day dot, they've said as much themselves; these things don't leap out at me tho certainly not the way everyone in the world has said the same verbatim and i feel suspicious towards what sometimes looks a v artful game of flirty blogverse flattery. not that i've spent forever digesting the junior boys sound but c'mon really?

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:33 (twenty years ago) link

(i suppose some of my reservations already sound inherent in tim's quote already but i'm not sure)

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:35 (twenty years ago) link

tim you should get way more paid than you are!

― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

the band the junior boys remind me of most is ar kane circa i, minus the leftover shoegaze baggage.

the second ep isn't all that, except for "high come down" which is fucking aces (but, like, two years old now.) manitoba needs to fuck back off to indie rockdom, like, yesterday.

according to nick (and jeremy) the album is being mastered as we speak. (hee hee i heard an album track and yooooou didn't.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

p.s. anyone who listens to the junior boys and hears nothing in their sound between 1986---->now isn't listening with their ears.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

high come down - reminds me of Scritti Politti

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

well i wouldnt go that far...

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

i would, they remind me of scritti a lot... "so put up or shut up", harvell...

<< / my word is law >

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

They still remind me of a sensitive indie band who have actually been paying attention to and absorbing electronic music trends since 1986 as opposed to just buying a synthesiser cos its more feminine. This is pretty much what I used to publically wish for all the time so it irks me a little that I only like and not love them.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

coz i've heard cupid & psyche 85

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

They remind me of Telefon Tel Aviv + the assorted goth pop influences, and TTA remind of, um, Timbaland + pretty pretty melodies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

I can't listen to the vocal melody of 'Birthday' without thinking of 'Making Plans for Nigel'. :(

I too am a bit lukewarm.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

grrr that nigel thing may well come to bother me nipper. i hadn't noticed it before, but now...

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

the band the junior boys remind me of most is ar kane circa i, minus the leftover shoegaze baggage.

I must hear this band.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

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