maybe not obvious but the songwriting isnt as great as everything else on the record.
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I could never get hugely into this record though everytime i read something by Tracer saying how magnificent it is i go back to it and WANT to love it but it never works.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
right. in a way, voodoo is a little over laboured and thus hard to penetrate. difficult listening isnt always as great as it sounds in concept.
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― subgenius (subgenius), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd definitely say Classic.
― William Selman (William Selman), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
The S.E.X question
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
i prefer having sex to rock music or jazz like in a silent way than R&B.
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
totally disagree with shakey about the buried tracks/muddiness. that's exactly what I like about the album, and the fact that most modern rnb is brightshinyclean turns me off of it.nick, you should know that the trick to getting those details to surface is to inhale drugas.
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I think in that other thread I talked about this as non-climax sex music, which still sounds about right to me.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I won $5 on a bet with my roomy not too long ago on the fact that, yes Kevin, Charlie Hunter does play on this album. A lot.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
This album on the boombox guarantees I will get something done around my house, be it the dishes or cunnilingus.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, March 1, 2005 2:20 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Monday, 26 January 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^thats a pretty good recommendation
i like voodoo but i get a sense it was dangelo really trying to make an album he thought he 'should' make, and be the type of artist he was trying to be, rather than just be him...
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 26 January 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
this album has a crazy detailed wikipedia page btw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_(album)
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link
this thread is a bit sad
pretty much my favourite album of all time, the slow release hooks and choruses are masterful. So many fantastic tunes
― merked, Sunday, 29 May 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
Just listening to this today for the first time in years while cleaning the house. Great album.
― Professor Respect, Monday, 30 May 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, January 26, 2009 2:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha such a titchy post
― lebroner (D-40), Monday, 30 May 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the single best album i've listened to due to ILM enthusiasm. heard it for the first time only a couple years back (smdh).
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
2nd best album ever.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 30 May 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
dunno, maybe best album ever
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 May 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
These 'slow release hooks' must be really subtle because this album still washes over me. Must try harder (I loved Brown Sugar fwiw).
― sam500, Monday, 30 May 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
Geez, maybe I need to revisit. Bought it used three or four years back a looong time after I'd first considered purchasing it, and it just didn't connect for me. It might have something to do with D'Angelo's tic of singing every line a little more than hair behind the beat, a neat idea in theory which ends up ratcheting everything up another order of difficulty (it's forbidding enough to begin with with). Chances are that I just don't get it, but something Dave Marsh said in an interview a few years back stuck with me - he suggested that "Voodoo" was basically a failed attempt to capture the vibe of "There's A Riot Goin' On." Generally I don't trust Marsh on music after the 1980's, but I'm a giant "Riot" fan and "Voodoo" still kinda leaves me cold.
― thewufs, Monday, 30 May 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
It took a long time to connect with me and Marsh is wrong.
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 May 2011 05:25 (twelve years ago) link
i mostly see it as a successful attempt to capture the vibe of a d'angelo album
― contenderizer, Monday, 30 May 2011 05:25 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, well I'll check it out again, then. Does he do that behind-the-beat thing on "Brown Sugar" too?
― thewufs, Monday, 30 May 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
its a 'vibe' album largely, not a song one (though yes, it does have a few great songs on it).
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 30 May 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
its not really trying to recreate the riot atmosphere exactly, but it is something similar, that same sort of very slurred, hazy, drunken kind of vocals and ambience, though the clarity of the sonics are far too good to = riot. the main prob with voodoo is that cos it took so long to make and nothing has come after it you can throw a million things at it (fair and unfair) and it has to stack up to all of them, rather than simply be an evolutionary, feeling-my-way-around-for-something-new album which is what it seemed to be.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 30 May 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
this album is so much more about sex than 'riot'
― lebroner (D-40), Monday, 30 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
True true
― thewufs, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Quit thinking about it so much and just vibe out to it.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 30 May 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
There's A Sex Going On
― more horses after the main event (Eazy), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
when all the tiny d'angelos suddenly snap out of their unconnected mumblings and sing "i won't steer you wrong!" it still gives me shivers right down my spine.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
his label should just do what labels used to do and release outtakes and leftovers from these sessions in place of anything new from him. id like to see what else they came up with, stuff that wasnt in the same mood as what made it on the album. have heard a few outtakes over the years but there must be more - apparently there was a title track that went on for about 20 mins. admittedly this might be better on paper than to listen to but id still like to hear it.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
ohhhhh shiiiiiiit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etxFu7HgeB0
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad he's actually working but... kinda weak tbh. he can't really do that James Brown showman stuff with any dexterity.
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
he hasn't played a show in over a decade? too bad you can't have a low-profile warm up show these days.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
I was expecting something more low-key tbh! not this sort of classic soul revue schtick
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
well that's what he did (prince/jb worship) for the whole voodoo tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajpnAAXJaI
i did wonder if he'd go back to it tbh, or do a brown sugar-era sitting-at-the-rhodes thing.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
I love how the guitarists in these kinds of bands are always like statues
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw jesse johnson (of The Time) was supposed to play guitar on this tour, but i guess he had something else to do. so they got the dude with the most similar name, jef lee johnson.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
redman was basically dope from 1990-2000, not too many dudes can spin off a decade of consistent work, if anything i think his rep is underrated now
but he was also huge when i was in high school, like if you were a head or if you were a pop fan he was a big deal
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:42 (nine years ago) link
Yeah otm
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:56 (nine years ago) link
fuckin' love red, left and right is great, it's a bummer that he's so unconsidered these daysmeth/red have quietly been dropping four tracks a year for half a decade feels like; this was the last thing that i got heavy intohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaGX6-tnKU4
― MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link
Blackout! is easily my favorite Meth album and narrowly my favorite Redman album.
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
If it is better than Whut or Dare Iz A Darkside it must be good! Never heard it tbh.
― xelab, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
man the hi-hats on that track
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
any thigh slaps on this one?
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
serviceable thigh slapping, nothing virtuosic tho
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
ok not interested in this album
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
blackout is a classic, not the best redman imo but still amazing
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link
Futuristic OTM up there- after a solid week of Black Messiah, put on Voodoo and it sounds like Kind of Blue after Bitches' Brew.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 10:28 (nine years ago) link
Good analogy. I did that exact thing yesterday, and yes it does. In both cases I think I might prefer the gnarlier, abstracted later work. But there's no denying the classicness of the earlier one.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Just realised the gap between Voodoo and BM is 2 years longer than between KoB and Bitches Brew - damn.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Friday, 26 December 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
what is that even supposed to mean
― j., Friday, 26 December 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZd_YyFzPD0
― some dude, Friday, 26 December 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
It doesn't mean anything except that it took D'Angelo a really long time to release another album. (Not that we're really comparing the two, but Miles released 11 albums, almost all classics, between KoB and BB.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 December 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, meant that it's sort of strange that, in this age of supposed hyper -compressed attention spans, it's possible for an artist to remain in some way 'current' even with such a protracted absence, whereas, in the time between KoB and BB, as noted, Miles released 11 records, the Beatles had their entire career etc. It's nearly impossible to imagine any artist in popular music disappearing in 1959 and returning with a record in 1973 without it being a big 'comeback/ rediscovery' story (Art Pepper?) whereas with D'Angelo, it's acknowledged in every story that he's been away for a while, but there's no sense of him being an anachronism, a being landed from another era.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Friday, 26 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
It has been 12 years since the last Peter Gabriel album of original material. If anything, I bet the work habits of D'Angelo and PG are surprisingly similar.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 December 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
well, Peter Gabriel was 40 and had almost a dozen studio albums under his belt before he started releasing music more sporadically (like a lot of rich, middle-aged rock stars do). D'Angelo just turned 40 before releasing his 3rd album.
― some dude, Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
Well, tbf, there was also the matter of the drugs and whatnot. Been a few distractions at work. Kind of a shame he wasted so much time.
Just realized D'Angelo and I share a birthday. Same day, at least; he's a year older.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 December 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
the flipside of hyper-compressed attention spans is that there is no narrative of general progress or development
anyway though i just wanted to cosign this
meth & red are great on "left and right" any other opinion is objectively wrong
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 December 2014 00:01 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 27 December 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link
feel like makin love is just so absolutely perfect
― marcos, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link
Has a single song ever sunk an otherwise 'perfect 10' album like "Left & Right?" Lordy, what a vibe-annihilator.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, December 20, 2014 11:25 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and yea otm, such a bummer, it is just meth & red otherwise it is a great tune, "liar liar set your pussy on fire" smh
― marcos, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
fuckin dweebs
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
iirc D himself wasn't too enthused about their input (and tried to replace them with Q-Tip but was even less satisfied with his efforts),
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 December 2014 18:40 Bookmark
with all due respect to d this only makes me love it more
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
every song on this perfect album is perfect
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Watch D’Angelo & The Roots Rehearse A Very Funky Take Of “The Line” For Roots Picnic NYC
― PappaWheelie V, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
D'artist list.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link
Is this the best album of the 21st century so far? Maybe.
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:01 (five years ago) link
It’s a contender for sure
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:03 (five years ago) link
this is my favourite album of all time and i can't fathom being someone who thinks of it as a dud
― monotony, Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:19 (five years ago) link
this album only really opened up for me earlier this year but it's truly incredible
― ufo, Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link
It can take some time to open up to you, yeah - take a look at my first comment in this thread and laugh
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link
every song on this perfect album is perfect― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
correct
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
(Tracer is never going to want to make out with us!)― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
..rong?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
uhmm. . . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ihpqq4wKE
https://www.discogs.com/Amerigo-Gazaway-DAngelo-Variation-Of-Voodoo-A-Tribute-To-DAngelo/release/15096894
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 30 August 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
anyone watching the verzuz? anyone else watching experiencing some connectivity issues?
― little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Sunday, 28 February 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link
This album sounds incredible. The production is superb. I think he was still growing as a writer though. Still learning about songwriting dynamics as opposed to great grooves and mood, ambience, musicianship, etc. Weird fact I learned in an Eddie Kramer interview was that electric lady went very quiet after the period that all the soulauarian guys recorded all their albums there.
― candyman, Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link
this is a joyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyeUDsckMhoChicken Grease (D'Angelo) - Bass and Drums
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 28 October 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ytLiEHuk0
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 12 January 2024 17:19 (three months ago) link