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admit i like this because primarily because i support the workplace ideas

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2009/11/5/making-games-faster.html

They said that if you see your time as an unending ocean ("hey, I'll be here for another 15 hours anyway today, and again tomorrow"), then it doesn't even phase you if the solution to a problem would take 5 hours of menial labor from you. But when your time is limited, you think about alternate solutions, or question the framing of the problem that is leading to the tedious work.

i look at life this way - it is an unending ocean, so everything takes forever and hence nothing is ever finished

Nhex, Friday, 6 November 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

New blog I found about minority gaming: http://borderhouseblog.com/

I actually love the idea.

Mordy, Saturday, 19 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

if only Token Minorities was still updating

Nhex, Saturday, 19 December 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

accessibility article. i tht v interesting.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26386/Analysis_Game_Design_Accessibility_Matters.php

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

some good points. i like the point about positive permanence. for me one benefit of that is not having to run menial tasks over and over again every time u die, which doesn't make the game more challenging- just more boring

meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

two words of rebuttal: -YOU DIED-

lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

REAL DEMON'S SOULS IGNORES THIS ARTICLE.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

That was interesting but I hate the canonization of Canabalt as some sort of golden model of game design :(

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

it's getting coint and plick love...

lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I love it! I even included it in my best of 2009 ballot.

Mordy, Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

ditto

/no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/01/npd-analysis-how-to-sell-a-wii-game/

More boring industry numbers, I know

Nhex, Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Miss those old insanely long, nostalgia-drenched write-ups of FF games by Tim Rogers?

http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=patff

I admit, I read the ones for IV and VI.

Nhex, Thursday, 4 February 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

The Decade That Was: Influential Faces

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

OK I know nobody reads this thread - and as far I can tell there's no "serious games" etc. thread, but the video lecture by Jesse Schell here is awesome. The second half in particular is fascinating and terrifying, you gotta watch it. (The Sirlin text is pretty ignorable and not a particularly good summation.)

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2010/2/22/external-rewards-and-jesse-schells-amazing-lecture.html

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

interesting so far!

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, everyone here should watch that video

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

He sounds like Mitch Hedberg.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.call-to-adventure.com/?p=704

i liked this but it also made me a little sad. probably full of untruths passed off as truths but i'll leave that to the aspie rubes to pick apart.

I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Friday, 26 February 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

How many of you are still playing Portal? How many of you still love your girlfriends? And now how many of you are ready to admit to yourselves, in a whisper, that you’re liars?

o_0

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Friday, 26 February 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

man, i can just barely read that; it's so thick with HEAVY MEANING and counterintuitive points that i don't agree with/sympathize with at all

forksclovetofu, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean: "What is it about gaming — the compulsive, strung-out bender sessions — that makes it so humiliating? Could it be that I was pressing buttons to make scantily clad women and heaving, hormonal man-beasts pummel each other over and over again? Was it the number of hours that I spent playing that was so shameful? Starting at 8:00pm and then fighting till 4:00am? Is it the compulsion?"

uh, i'm totally happy telling people i spent all night playing whatever i played if i did; you're a gaming journalist and you feel weird about it? maybe time for more meds?

forksclovetofu, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

self hate is the ugliest of ugly

Hideous Lamp (cozen), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

remind me how watching tv all night is any less depressing than playing games. or reading L. Ron Hubbard. or playing d&d. or riding a stationary bike.
you're not watching porn or eating tubs of ice cream or cutting yourself; you are engaging in an activity that pacifies your heart. just keep swimming

forksclovetofu, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

wait swimming what? am I doing it wrong

Hideous Lamp (cozen), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

joeks

gotta think I cda learned sanskrit w/all those self-hate-filled 700 hrs of SFIV tho ;_;

Hideous Lamp (cozen), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmyUkm2qlhA

forksclovetofu, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

That article makes me glad I haven't yet started a gaming blog to pour out my depression to the world. Self-hate is for your self!

and c'mon Cozen, if there was something more enjoyable and fulfilling than FADCing into Ultra a thousand times you probably would have or will pursue it

Nhex, Friday, 26 February 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, let's go back to that Jesse Schell presentation that Nhex was talking about here:
http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2010/2/22/external-rewards-and-jesse-schells-amazing-lecture.html

Where he posits a strange future where you "Get Points" at work by getting your reports done and becoming more adept at the programs you use.

So here I am downloading this now:
http://www.officelabs.com/ribbonhero

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

the singularity is coming!

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked that Schell lecture, too.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I've played it for like three people now; i think he's spot fucking on

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's got that McLuhan insight but the tone is tailored well to his audience.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

UGH HATE

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/toddler-dies-mistaking-gun-wii-controller/story?id=10056190

Cheyenne Alexis McKeehan of Norene, Tenn., shot herself Sunday night after her stepfather left his loaded Smith & Wesson handgun out on a table, Wilson County Sheriff Terry Ashe said.

...

"The unfortunate thing is that this Nintendo game called Wii had what looks like a solid black, basically automatic-looking type mechanism that operates the game," he said.

NO YOU FARTKNUCKLE THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THE FUCKING DIPSHIT OF A DAD LEFT A LOADED HANDGUN ON A TABLE WITHIN EASY REACH OF A TODDLER

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Thursday, 11 March 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

How many of you are still playing Portal? How many of you still love your girlfriends? And now how many of you are ready to admit to yourselves, in a whisper, that you’re liars you've already GISed my name to see if i am hot or secret fattey?

how i would have ended that article

First and Last and Safeways ™ (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 March 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf @ that article dyao posted

That sheriff is like the dumbest person on Earth

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 March 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

If this leads to the Wii being banned I'm all for it.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 March 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't find the Black Isle alumni thread, but here's an interview with Obsidian's Chris Avellone done by sometime ILG-er Chris Dahlen:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/avc-at-gdc-10-an-interview-with-alpha-protocol-cre,39091/

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Friday, 12 March 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link

worth watching, not reading but clever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZVCCJxIQ4

forksclovetofu, Friday, 12 March 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link

neato

Nhex, Friday, 12 March 2010 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone got a list of these BRUTAL & FILTHY games so we can poll them?
http://www.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tracychriscover_large.jpg

cozen, Friday, 12 March 2010 09:16 (fourteen years ago) link

(pause)

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Friday, 12 March 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Brian Ashcraft: Child Porn Advocate

/no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

jeez that article links to some deeply heinous shit

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ child porn advocate

no chapo (Lamp), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link

guy's a sleaze. i know i've posted this x times before, but nearly every story he posts is about some creepy underage-looking model/popstar/videogame character. also, he can't write, which doesn't distinguish him from the rest of kotaku.

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Cannabalt is an adult’s game. It embarrasses no one.

That article is ugh, but this is a really good summary of my instinctive dislike for that game!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna play the devil's advocate here and say i'm more disturbed that you can jail people for drawing gross cartoons than that there are people out there jerking off to said cartoons. i mean they're drawings, that's really nothing compared to, you know, the actually horrifying practices of child pornography that they are equating it with

but of course, to defend this stance means you have to go in with the pedos :( and brian ashcraft

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

xp haha, what do you mean?

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

xp haha, what do you mean?

Well, the whole article touched on something that I've been thinking about for a while. My issue isn't so much with Canabalt (which I played a few times and enjoyed) but with the reviews of it I read, and with its presence on game of the year lists etc. So much of what I read was about how easily non-gamers were converted to playing it, how smooth and non-cheesy and, well, grown-up it seemed, in theme and execution, how easy it was to learn...

I feel the same way about 'Passage' which I actually found v. affecting! It's just that I'm very conscious that Canabalt is 'showing' what 'Passage' is to 'talking about' - something that you use when justifying your hobby to people who don't share it. And while I understand that, for me, that's not gaming. That's the gateway drug to gaming, but it shouldn't ever be confused with the end product. The end product is that really deep engagement with ruleset, that staying-up-until-five-playing-Civilisation feeling, Braid with its stupid adolescent writing and really hard, unforgiving, honest, satisfying puzzles, Ninja Gaiden, Madden played on hardest with all its stupid unrealistic aspects and ai glitches and needless intricacies. If you've only got an hour a day to play games that's cool, I'm in the same boat! But don't tell me that Canabalt is the deepest pleasure the medium can give.

I sound like table-is-the-table on the gay thread!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link


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