New Liars concept album based on "humans trying to survive in LA" due next year.
Sisterworld to be released on Mute in 2010
― Doran, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
excited! though the producer they are working with officially Worries Me.
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
What's wrong with Tom Biller? (Never heard of him, BTW; I'm just curious).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno...just looking at his credits...he's done stuff with Jon Brion, Beck, Kanye West, Rhett Miller, Evan Dando, Elliot Smith, Silversun Pickups, Where the Wild Things Are soundtrack
basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess....
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can see where you might be coming from Matt, but the one thing I've learned being a Liars stan - don't go into any new album with preconceptions AT ALL.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah they are def an awesome band and have not let me down but that dudes credentials is like super boring NPR type rock to me....
i basically just hate the way "professional" rock records sound now, so i'm worried about it on just a basic engineering, mix, compression angle
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I just feel like these guys are pretty involved in how their records sound. It seems like they have been up to this point anyway. I can't see them just sitting back like all, whatever. Then again, fuck, maybe that's part of the "concept" - a super-smooth record to fit the L.A. thing. Hard to tell with these guys.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i mean it's no dealbreaker, i always think they are interesting and this sounds even more interesting with the whole half-baked concept album steez....i am officially going to buy this sound unseen.
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
it better be a soundtrack for this
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
That would be amazing.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
sounds v. william gibson in conception
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thom Yorke, Bradford Cox, Suicide and Melvins on Liars Sisterworld disc two
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
appears to have leaked, it's on sordo
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
urgh file seems fucked, nevermind
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess
what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
"humans trying to survive in LA" makes it sound way more sci-fi than it is
coping strategy = hanging out at The Smell, not hoarding gas and going all Mad Max
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
― dmr, Thursday, January 7, 2010 9:14 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wasn't super down with that record really..was "okay" but i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person....actually all the first three are good in their own ways
― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person
yeah me too. new one's not as good as that but I like it better than the S/T one. (that had some good songs though, "Clear Island" is badass. some of it sounded like Beck though .... nothing like that on the new one really)
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
The Scarecrow "Why d'you pass the bum on the street?" track is one of the best things they've ever done.
I played it on New Year's Eve. Everyone was gobsmacked. (Admittedly some of them started booing but everyone else was going bananas.)
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 22:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah totally! that one came on when I was on the subway on the way home from work tonight and I was rockin out, kind of has that Drowned vibe (even the title ... "Scarecrows on a Killer Slant") but with bigger guitars
― dmr, Friday, 8 January 2010 03:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
i loved the s/t and i think "they were wrong" is probably my last favorite thing they've done (though it still has some jams on it). finally listening to sisterworld.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thought the last one was a tiny disappointment after Drums, but have heard good things about the newie. Also still one of the most intense live bands around.
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
"Scarecrows on a Killer Slant" is AWESOME, and sounds great turned waaaaay up. Can't wait to hear a high quality version.
― CATBEAST!! (Z S), Thursday, 21 January 2010 02:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol american movie
― conrad, Thursday, 21 January 2010 02:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
― the descent of mayne (am0n), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
the end is LOL
― the descent of mayne (am0n), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
"The Overachievers" is my new jam off this record
we drove the biocarcuz we all loved the earthit didn't get us farand always sounded like a walllrusssswith ullllcerrrss
― dmr, Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^yesssssss
― wilter, Friday, 26 February 2010 01:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Love the album, but big WTF on the standard edition packaging? I guess they really wanted people to shell out for the deluxe. For those that haven't seen it, the disc comes in one of those cardboard sleeves that labels used to send promos in. I'm all for not having another jewel box taking up space on my shelves, but this packaging just seems way lazy.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude, i'll second that one. seriously thought about stealing this off the internet (which i almost never do) because the standard packaging is so half-assed. paying close to $20 for the deluxe edition wasn't really an option either as i like to keep any whiffs of thom yorke and tv on the radio out of the house.
anyhow, got it cheaply enough and glad i did. it's some pretty primo liars.
― Robert Necrofrost, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh man, i'm with you jon on the packaging. digipaks, fine. but this is almost some "if we could, we'd just hand you a loose CD" kind of shit. yeah, the cardboard sleeve is cheaper and better for the environment, but it's not that sturdy, and it almost feels like what i imagine it'd feel like to buy a hardcover that used tissue paper as a dust cover instead of actual paper.
― ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
i guess if it were an environmental thing the deluxe version would come in two cardboard cases? i wonder what the reasoning behind this was.
― ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
I ended up forking over for the deluxe package as Liars are one of the few acts I throw in with as a matter of course. Even though the last album sucked.
The new one just keeps getting better, and the bonus disc might be the first collection of remixes I've ever heard that actually coheres and sort of enhances the effect of listening to the original. The only thing I skip on it is the TV on the Radio dude w/ predictable a capella misfire, zeroing in on "dumb" lyrics and coming off just dumb.
I dunno if it tops Drum's Not Dead yet but this is really fucking good.
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
i wonder what the reasoning behind this was.
possibly budget? there's not a lot of $$$s in doing what liars do, wonderful though it is.
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
how good is this btw? being poor as poor but trying not to steal i have limited myself to 1 album purchase per month- next month its the gil scott heron and after that it is this v. the four tet album (v. anything else great that might come out between now and then v. is that knife opera thing out yet?)
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, the knife record came out
― ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 17:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
For the little it's worth the Liars album will be up there with LCD, Lindstrom and Christabelle and The Fall for me. It takes a while to click into place but I can't stop playing it.
― Doran, Friday, 19 March 2010 18:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
^you've heard the LCD?! What's it like?
― Davek (davek_00), Friday, 19 March 2010 18:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
I fucking love it but it's splitting the vote with my colleagues. There's grumbling about hipster curlicues and sarky snarky New York posturing but that's always been there as far as I'm concerned.
The opening track is immense. Really awesome. And it's awesomeness gets even more awesome when you consider the fact he sounds like Kermit The Frog. Drunk Girls is a hoot and there's also a Bowie/Eno/Fripp Style song as well.
Need to get stuck into it over the weekend. I hope he reconsiders splitting up. My favourite band of the last ten years.
― Doran, Friday, 19 March 2010 18:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sounds wicked. Is there anything like the Someone Great/All My Friends duo?
*off thread topic I know*
― Davek (davek_00), Friday, 19 March 2010 18:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
funny thing is that the LP comes with the two CDs (basic and remix), in their sleeves, as freebies. along with two big picture books and two thick LPs in a custom die-cut sleeve. for not much money, so i don't think production cost was a factor at all.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
How do we feel about Sisterworld, now?
― Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
i respect it but i don't really like it
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 August 2011 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha really
― Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah idk liars is a band i'm going to give a pretty wide berth to in terms of executing ideas but this record is just kind of flat and unpleasant.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 August 2011 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think post-DND they are more of a live band, really. But they are, like, one of the most awesome live bands ever.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 19 August 2011 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
New song:
http://soundcloud.com/muterecords/liars-no-1-against-the-rush
Curveball (even in the wide berth of Liars curveballs) but very enjoyable. A grower.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 2 April 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
cool that their new album is called WKIW
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
fucking LOVE this song, btw. listening to it for the fourth time. less a grower than an immediate, lovely and even catchy song that has absolutely no chance to be a pop hit. reminds me of the bowie/moroder "cat people"!
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
no takers :(
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not sure what to make of this. I'm listening to it a lot, and enjoying it, but it seems so in thrall to Kid A, Amnesiac era Radiohead at points as to almost be pastiche. One song bites Cuttooth so hard, and he sings so much like Thom so often, that I don't know if its got its tongue in its cheek.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 July 2012 16:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
I don't quite get a radiohead vibe off of the album, but I definitely see where you're coming from.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Friday, 6 July 2012 18:14 (10 months ago) Permalink
Sick, you asked me what I thought about this record?
(Don't know if I'm just your ~representative RH fan~ or something)
Anyway. Yeah, I can hear a Radiohead-y kind of vibe to the music, but it's more that it just seems to be doing the same kind of '00s cusp indietronica thing. There was a song that sounded exactly like an Appliance song on there as well. For the most part, I quite like the music, the instrumentation is the kind of wibble I like and the arrangements keep my attention well. (I only skipped one song! This is p good.)
BUT.
I disagree that the singer is biting Thom Yorke. If he is, I wish he would do a better job. The problem is, too many indie singers hear Thom doing that thing where he doesn't enunciate and he slurs his consonants in a rush to get to the vowels - and think that's all there is to it. So they mumble along - without realising that what makes Thom such a great singer isn't his lack of enunciation, but his ability to *emote* so that the emotional quality of his voice becomes as important if not more important than than the actual words he's singing.
The singer of this band just kind of mumbles along in a monotone and never really shows much emotion of any kind, he just comes across as lazy. Which is a shame because I actively liked the music on several songs - Octagon and Brats seemed like they could have been quite decent tunes if he'd put some effort in.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 14:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
That is kind of the exact inverse of what I like about both singers! I like Yorke's voice but sometimes the delivery just seems kind of overblown and I don't quite buy the emoting! I wish the new Liars album was a bit less falsetto-heavy, though, and kind of prefer the drudgey vocal parts.
doesn't enunciate and he slurs his consonants in a rush to get to the vowels
I never noticed Thom Yorke's midwestern america accent until now :)
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:55 (10 months ago) Permalink
Didn't hear any falsetto on this album?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 14:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
besides a few moments in the vocals (and that's maybe almost coincidence, i think andrew has his own thing going on that's not remotely yorke-imitation) i'm not really reminded of radiohead, it sounds more like a natural development for they were wrong so we drowned-vibe liars going more electronic. maybe a bit of a surface reading on too few listens, but the main thing i'm getting from it is something like a very sensible meeting between that era of liars and blackest ever black, demdike stare etc-type stuff, or maybe that natural development just naturally ends up there.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
xxp angus andrew is australian!
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
iirc "Ill Valley Prodigies" and the one a couple tracks later have some falsetto
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:08 (10 months ago) Permalink
Oh. Ill Valley Prodigies was the one I ended up skipping. Oops.
I repeat, I don't think they're biting Radiohead or whatever, just operating in a similar area.
Boys mumble all over the world, it's not confined to the American Midwest or the Upper Thames Valley.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
nah, I meant the vowel elongation, as we midwesterners prooonoouunce eeveery vahhoowel
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
There are just a handful of (maybe only 2) very specific moments where it sounds like he's singing Yorke lyrics / melodies. One where he sings something very similar to the refrain of Cuttooth - "I don't know why I feel so [something something]" and the rhythm of the delivery is very similar. There's another as well but I'd have to be listening to it to recall it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
Just now listening to this. I can take or leave Liars depending on the particular album, but I definitely approve of WIXIW.
I guess I can kind of hear the post-millenial Radioheadisms mentioned upthread, but the similarities are just on the fringes imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 18:14 (8 months ago) Permalink
Listened to this about four times in a row yesterday whilst driving across Dartmoor. It was a beautiful day.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
This isn't a beautiful album. It's crawling. It's quite desperate, and angry, but subdued. Possibly misantrhopic at points. There are some moments when light breaks through, but not many. Brats is savage. I feel like they're trying to make a point but I'm not sure what about.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:24 (8 months ago) Permalink
Just got Sisterworld. Awesome. Really woozy, unsettling mix and arrangements, like a rock band melted. This band have clicked hard for me in the last six months.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:05 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm going to need to revisit sisterworld which i never really liked the first time around. but wixiw is really awesome, almost everything i want from liars.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
fact magazine have a preview of a Vessel remix of one of the wixiw tracks, pretty bleak
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
Ha, I bought Sisterworld today too!
Seeing them on the 19th, can't wait.
― nate woolls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/liars-wixiw-round-39-nicks-choice/
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:52 (7 months ago) Permalink