Not location specific, No rules: Welcome to ILX heaven

She was disturbed and now has food. She is not unhappy. I'm eating the rest of the pie. Ugh, is it really only 10?

It's 16!

Well that makes me feel even worse. . .

It's the Twin Towers Memorial Deluge!

Firsst rain in weeks. The birds are going batty.

Turn off the TV Beth.

Really remembering 9/11 right on the heels of remembering Katrina is a depressing double whammy.

I'll turn it off. Good idea. After the second tower came down it was just reruns and speculation. I am curious as to how soon the news programming started emblazoning the top of the screen with "AMERICA UNDER ATTACK." Or was it "ATTACK ON AMERICA?"

How fast did they move in w/ the BRANDING of the event?

It was the same day, no?

I was watching online. Don't remember. But I did have bad dreams and was depressed for awhile. ugh.

Beth, it was within an hour iirc.

Huh, rain stopped? That was a putzy effort. However 9/11 rehash is continuing unabated. Good thing we whupped all them Eye-Rack-Eeze.

On another note, we stopped by Scott and Maria's house yesterday and admired the spanking-new Title 5 septic!

?

A very expensive mandated septic leach-field. All waste water drains into a series of "infiltrators" (seriously)—big plastic tube things lying on a bed of gravel, covered with more gravel and then topsoil. A title-5 system for one household is the size of a fucking tennis court. Looks like it's meant to service an entire town.

They used to just bury an old car.

This is surely better than a car.

Please say you're joking about the car!

No, the car is for real. Old-timer ways.
Supposedly the title-5 systems do a worse job w/ breaking down the nitrogen than the old-fashioned methods. More big plumes making their way to bodies of water. Being that we are in Massachusetts, there's probably some graft involved in the legislation. Manufacturers of "infiltrators?"

What people should do is shunt all their "gray water" from showers, kitchen sink and laundry into a dry-well—a gravel-lined pit. Toilets ideally should be the composting variety, but if they aren't a smeller leach field can easily deal with the sewage if it's not getting all the gray water too. Dry wells are illegal, but most officials turn a blind eye. We have one. It needs some maintenance—the outflow hose from the washer geysers a bit. There must be some blockage. If you don't lay a towel on the bathroom floor you get a serious flood, which makes its way to the crack in the linoleum at the corner of the shower stall. Where the floor if quite, shall we say, spongy. Sigh.

"smeller leach field"

Beth drops sewage science.

Floor IS quite. Lordy, I'm not even drunk.

If you drop the sewage, you need the science.

I get all passionate and nongrammatical on the subject of sewage.

SEPTIC SYSTEMS: THE HIDDEN THREADKILLERS.

Ha ha!

Better than hos beth.

Hos must generate a lot of gray water. If I was a ho I'd be showering ALL THE TIME.

Lysol douche = whore's bath.

Squeamish Ho Suffocated By Full-Body Condom.

Wow.

You know, in my day, it wasn't really okay for guys to look at porn and want to go to lapdancing clubs and sleep with prostitutes. If you did it, you had to pretend you didn't. These young people with their progressive ways... I feel old and cranky.

And on another topic, I feel I should hoover. Our house hasn't been hoovered in two weeks.

For me, the first is okay in moderation (mainly, I know but I don't need to hear about it unless we're watching it together), second, again not unless it's a bachelor party or we're there together, latter, absolutely not.

I'm not sure how I feel about being far more comfortable talking about New England sewage than porn and strippers. Oh well...

I don't think I could ever watch pr0n in company! I've no interest in strippers or lapdancing clubs to be honest. I have a suspicion I'll be fighting a losing battle at that stag next week :(

Oh, I found out I get to wear my tux for wedding. Deadly. There won't be photos naturally but I promise you all I will be uber-hunky. Think young Pearse Brosnan!*

*that may be a lie. Sorry.

Lap-dancing during a bachelor party would be a deal-breaker for me. Sorry. In fact, a bachelor party at all would be a deal-breaker. Fuckit. I hate all that shit, because you know, all the wives are told they can't be there—I don't like being told I can't be somewhere—and SOMEBODY'S wive is always fucking there, the one woman who slipped past the guard. So what the fuck? Let everyone go!
We eloped.

If you're so infantile that you get all excited by such naughtiness, then you're too much of a child to be married. Sorry. Ditto if you have a bunch of friends who think that way, for all the guys who "had nothing to do with the plans."

Don't marry a guy with stupid friends.

My ex-husband's brother and friends took him to a strip club. I didn't care. I could've gone to one myself if I wanted but I wanted a good night's sleep instead.

Are you against strip clubs in general Beth?

I notice you say EX husband.
I'm not against strip clubs, I'm against parties that exclude either males or females. I HATE all gal bridal showers too!

There's some war-of-the-sexes thing there that is not helping the world be a better place.

The bridal shower thing is a holdover from harem-mindset. Ech.

I notice you say EX husband.

He was and is a lovely, sensitive and upstanding guy. We are still friends and he sets a high standard for my future husbands.

I don't mind the separate parties as long as each side gets a chance to play.

"husbands" what a freudian slip

I should get offline. It stopped raining, so I can actually work.
But the single-sex gathering issue is interesting. I find the vibe that develops very unpleasant. Polarizing. As soon as even three women get together there's an awkwardness. Who's the odd girl out? Who's the queen bee? It's all still there, all that high-school shit. And in big hen parties it's cubed and toxic.

Exposting making for weird zigzag conversation.

I hate the separate parties. I hate being disallowed ANYTHING. And, as I am so boringly going on and on about, the vibe of a mixed-sex gathering is so much better. We keep each other's excesses in check.

It's simple. Don't invite bitches you don't like or who can't play well to your party.

The way that bachelor parties are vestigial survivors of a period of culture when a man's friends made sure he was ready for marriage by tempting him with all the things he would have to forego makes me feel weird. Has anybody else noticed a trend toward more co-ed showers/bachelor parties as of late? The last two bachelor parties I've been to ended up rendez-vousing with the hen party toward the end of the night and iIrc, neither was very gender 'pure'.

We keep each other's excesses in check.

And complement each other better...

I've been saying this for years. I loathe same sex only parties.