― the next grozart, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
― artdamages, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― artdamages, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― acrobat, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
most who the fuck listened to ska-punk anyway. oh yeah, everyone who wasn't on ilx. wasn't isn't -- the next grozart, Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:25 AM (57 minutes ago)
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
― frankie driscoll, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
― Sandy Blair, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:47 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― the next grozart, Thursday, 19 April 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 19 April 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Thursday, 19 April 2007 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 19 April 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
― zeus, Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tom D., Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
― zeus, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 19 April 2007 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 19 April 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
gay
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
(directed at the thread, not the genre)
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link
punk is gay too, though.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Only if you're Pansy Division
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link
or any number of other flaming bands. though it is gay in the other bad way, too.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I like Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag. Most punk is dull and drunk and thuddy. I prefer taut and sinewy and volatile. In college I used to get annoyed at the cultural hegemony of punk among non-frat white kids, but I went to school in lolJersey.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Every once in a while I'll throw on ramones first album, dead boys, stooges, germs. It's all dumb fun, and mixes things up from the other stuff I listen to.
― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I obviously missed this thread (I was out of the country) but I would have said probably a lot of the same stuff I said here:
are there still punks?
I think USA people have a really different experience of current punk subculture because our scene's origins and history are as much 1980 hardcore explosion as 1977 Britain. Also, especially in the peace punk world there have been a lot of feedback loops over the years between scenes. I like hurting's analogy and prefer stuff of a similar stripe, or else weird political peacecore like Crass or Poison Girls.
The house I co-own booked all-ages alcohol-free punk shows for the last six years. We just stopped (not really for any particular reason other than general burnout) although we would still do some shows under very special circumstances. It has been very interesting for me as an older dude (41) to deal with shows involving lots of kids (and their parents! and grandparents! and younger siblings!) and to watch them grow up and find their own voices. The punk experience is in large part what you make of it and it was cool to watch these kids check it out. Lots of frustrations (drunkenness, apathy, boring bands, idiocy, but notably almost no violence) but also rewards (successful benefits for people in prison, great random bands, turning people on to information/history/music).
There are many reasons why it sucks. It still has a lot to offer as history, as music, as philosophy and aesthetics. And perhaps more importantly, it is a potential gateway to a vast world of subculture, some of which might still have something of value to offer in the face of world-blighting commodification.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link
it is a potential gateway to a vast world of subculture
― robotsinlove, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link