100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

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83. the vibrato, the misplaced depth of feeling, the totality of it: "bounce bounce bounce bounce"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

84. (of course it's fundamental, it's a pop song, every line is fundamental)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

85. (especially the ones in the chorus)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

86. ok now where was I - oh yeah

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's a pop song insofar as it's very popular. Otherwise it's an RnB record.

― ss, Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

87. come on john you're nearly there!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

87. but beyond the pop joy of "bounce bounce" it's the sound of beleaguered R Kelly, whose troubles are known to even a casual pop listener but are known well by exactly the people who he'd rather knew nothing about them: people like me, the people who bought TP-2.com even though it had one of the worst album titles of all time

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

89. if its in the charts its a pop record

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

90. I'm tryin' Julio but ss wants to argue with me, you know how hard a time I have resisting arguments

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

91. and he doesn't number his post like i'm doing

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

92. dude I appreciate it more than you know, next time I'm in London the pints're on me

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

93. assuming you're in London I mean

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

94. yes i am.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

95. the shameful video & the rejected-by-Chicago-radio business & his sudden unwanted transition from known-but-not-huge pop star to universally-known-and-laregly-shunned tabloid coverboy, he's pushing that all to the side and taking aim

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

96. and where is his aim

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

97. well let me just answer that question

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

98. with a question:

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

99. "Where the party at?"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

100. Thank you, good night

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

good night.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

101) then after the show its the aaaafter paaaarty / and after the party its the hotel lobbbbby

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

'i will gorgeously re-sing an element of my previous hit fiesta to show you how this new song is astonishingly superior to that previous high water mark'

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

previous previous previous, shamefully i didnt even like r til fiesta remix now i adore him

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

and it felt sort of shameful since jay was on it and stuff, im happy this new song is converting so many people now by being a perfect example of what he does best and without a rap even!!!

― trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

102) We can get this far without mentioning 'it's like murder she wrote'.

― Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

103) if the ilx massive takes this thread up to 200 reasons then world domination cannot be far off

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

104) and you're right Cozen the "it's like murder she wrote" line is genius

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

105) and totally incongruous.

― Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

106) well yeah hence the genius

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 21:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

106) aye

― Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 21:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

107) How is it that a man who can make a song as horrible as "I Believe I Can Fly" also create something as perfect and sublime as "Ignition (Remix)"? Somehow the fact that he has made some truly awful songs in his career makes this song even better.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

"then I'll take it to your room and--- (beat rat a tats) ---somebody."

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

108)After the "peeing on a 14 year-old" thing broke, R. was a shamed, sorry human being, looking for a hug. Then he realized he could still sell records, and now it's like he revels in being sexy in a kinda lectcherous way. This is his rebirth.

― Colin McElligatt, Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

109. It doesn't sound very reggae or Prince to me, but Philly soul. It's really got the same sort of smoothness.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

I NEED TO HEAR THIS SONG SO MUTHERFUCKIN' BAD!

Goddamnit! Why I have I not heard this yet. Who DENIES me?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

110. That even though I've thought about it for months now, I still can't figure out what the closing metaphor ("You must be a football coach/The way you got me playin’ the field") means but I still smile everytime I hear it. Someone wanna try to parse that rhyme down?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

"If there's grass on the field..."

― Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

What do you guys think of "Snake"?

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Cuz who's the football coach? And if it's another woman, why would she be pleased to hear that she's inspired RK to fuck around? Is RK fucking a HIPPIE?!?!?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Can someone explain what Murder She Wrote has to do with the lyrics? I am totally fucking baffled by that reference.

In context:

now its like Murder She Wrote
once I get you out them clothes
privacy is on the door
still they can hear you screamin' more
girl im feelin what you feelin
no more hopin' and wishin'
I'm 'bout to take my key and
stick it in the ignition

I......can't.....stop.....listening.....to......it.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

About the football reference - you know, she's making him work hard to get her (he's "playing the field" = out to get girls). So he's playing the field, like football. She's, um, like his football coach. Or something. It barely works, but I get it.

111) What does this song have in common with the original "Ignition" besides some lyrical similarities, chiefly the really awful "stick my key in the ignition" vagina/woman = car thing? How is a completely different song on every level a remix?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

murder she wrote = screaming overheard from behind closed doors?

― minna (minna), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

well, it's based on the same drum pattern/sound as "Ignition", although it adds in some hi-hats and stuff, and expands on the famed "bounce bounce bounce bounce".

also, I think "Murder She Wrote" is being employed with the same meaning as "that's all she wrote". that is, it's ovah.

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't know. I think of a band like the Ramones who used the same drum pattern/sound all the time, and repeated lyrics too, and yet it is easy to accept those all as being different songs. It's just funny to think of a song which sounds very, very different from another with shared elements being considered an alternate version.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

also, I think "Murder She Wrote" is being employed with the same meaning as "that's all she wrote". that is, it's ovah.

Exactly what I was thinking.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

I guess that makes sense, I'll go with it.

But "murder" and "that's all" have the same number of syllables! Why sing "murder" instead?

So weird! But I like it.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

What does this song have in common with the original "Ignition" besides some lyrical similarities, chiefly the really awful "stick my key in the ignition" vagina/woman = car thing? How is a completely different song on every level a remix?

You have to hear the two side by side on the album for it to really click.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are there any other similarly great songs on Chocolate Factory?

The only R Kelly album which I own is the record with Jay-Z, which has some fantastic stuff on it, "Honey" and "Shake Yo Body" in particular.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Murder She Wrote" = Chaka Demus & Pliers dancehall hit from early '90s. There's your reggae link John D.

There's also the whole "I'm-a murder that coochie" vibe there that is mighty distasteful if you think about it much but who's thinking? To think is not TO DO. And that's ALL he wants to do.

― Neudonym, Monday, 16 June 2003 03:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are there any other similarly great songs on Chocolate Factory?

The title track and "Snake" are pretty great, but the album, on the whole, is unremarkable.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

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