Rolling Metal Thread 2009

"I know, maybe I can make somebody mad. My day will have been a success, then."

yeah, actually i was thinking the same thing. really uncalled for.

Hey! I don't think he did it to make me mad. I mean, we do have that kind of a ribbing-each-other friendship. I'm certainly not implying it was mean for him to send the link. At all!

I just don't think I have anything I could possibly add to the conversation.

okay. sorry. just seemed like: hey, kate's been upset about this stuff in recent days, let me fuel the fire! which just seemed mean or something. but i certainly don't think that herman is mean.

No being mean on the metal thread, guys.

my bad I apologize Herman.

Man, I'd forgotten how much I hate Hatebreed. Listening to their new album (and their covers album) tonight. They really are one of the stupidest, knuckle-dragginest bands on earth. And yet, just like John's old posts about Creed and why some people love them, I can understand the appeal of Hatebreed.

i dont know if anyone here still likes to buy metal, but century distro is having a crazy sale right now. i just got mayhem de mysteriis dom sathanas on blue vinyl for $20. but there's tons of stuff in the $8 - $12, too. worth a spin through.

link is cmdistro . com

i have enjoyed hatebreed in the past. but i'm a fan of mookcore from way back. they really have perfected something in their way. they've distilled this very specific thing and made it an industry. it's kinda crazy. i had trouble getting through the new one. maybe i wasn't in the mood. if hatebreed are your thing though they definitely give you what you want. the same thing. again. forever. they could do it until they are old pissed-off men.

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Man, I'd forgotten how much I hate Hatebreed. Listening to their new album (and their covers album) tonight. They really are one of the stupidest, knuckle-dragginest bands on earth.

No arguments here. They're bringing Cannibal Corpse and Hate Eternal out here in December, so after digging the real talent, I'll likely watch the idiocy from a safe distance.

isn't hatebreed the band whose singer is named jamey jasta? I think "jamey jasta" is an all-time stage name for sure

Jasta has presence, that's one big thing he's got going for him. He can wind up a room like no other.

His overzealousness can yield some real gems, though, like this classic I heard him do last year: "It might be Wednesday here, but it's Friday somewhere else in the world."

HAT BREED

(they all wear hats all the time)

Back in the late 90s when Hatebreed was a vocally straightedge band, me and Steve Austin from Today is the Day blew pot smoke at them from side stage and laughed.

If anyone ever has to interview Hate Breed, ask them about the middle east question as regards to the fucking huge 'Holy Land' tattoos that they have.

The reaction is pretty amusing.

Last time I'll mention this on here but this weekend is my annual Fall into Darkness festival in Portland.

Thursday - Earth, SubArachnoid Space, Makoto Kawabata, ?Alos, Aerial Ruin
Friday - Agalloch, Amber Asylum, Soriah, Fauna
Saturday - YOB, Ludicra, Witch Mountain, Saviours, Atriarch

Probably won't be posting much this weekend.

Argh, that weekend looks awesome. Portland always has such amazing metal shows. I live in Saskatoon why?

That said, Saviours killed here the other night opening for 3IOB.

Will Kawabata be playing his zipper? It's awesome - and I'm totally fucking serious.

haha what?

walt disney sent me a copy of the new atreyu album. do i need to listen to it?

haha what?

Yeah I know that seemed kinda random, but it's true: during the Japanese New Music Festival, Kawabata and Tatsuya Yoshia of Ruins mic'ed up the zippers on their jackets and played them. It was sublime! Not exactly metal, no, but it instantly made me their biggest fans.

excuse me, fellow metal enthusiasts, but I have just begun listening to Avenger's 2009 release, Feast of Anger, Joy of Despair. I thought I would pay the thread a visit to say HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT AN AWESOME FUCKING SOUND + VIBE + ATMOSPHERE + BITCHIN GUITAR TEXTURES + FUCK YEAH THIS IS WHAT I AM FUCKING TALKING ABOUT WHEN I ASK FOR GOOD METAL.

what is it like?

sounds like dissection/master's hammer with a dose of darkthrone mainly on the vocals - basically it's death metal with a grim & frostbitten kingdoms vibe, also a little like that last marduk album Rom 5:12 songwriting-wise but with dirtier production/cooler-sounding atmosphere - like if you knew Rom 5:12, remember some of the mid-tempo dirge-y moments from it (song name escaping me but there was this one, very "classical" mode goin' on, minor-key lurching vibe), only that album the sound was kinda brash for me in a boring way, here there's a very re-amped in castle feel

fucking record is on point I'll tell you what

ok sorry for liveblog but srsly you guys I'm on track 4 now and unless somebody falls asleep at the wheel this is one of the best metal albums of 2009.

word, keep us posted

climax of track 5, "joy of despair," ramps up to some immortal-style greatness & then back in the lurching-like-frankenstein thing but w/a little viking vibe

this shit is absolutely fucking solid, I am seriously 100% down with this excellent release

track 6 is basically a weird soundscape trolls-or-whatever-around-the-fire thing, Conan renfaire that segues into another march into the fiery chasm track. listening to this while watching hockey w/sound on tv muted, my life rules

fantastic really contemplative soloing here in the middle of track 7, has a "middle eastern" (I know, but what can I say? phrygian mode maybe? all these guys are big heads on the scales-and-modes) feel. awesome sfx of marching armies or maybe just a big ol' empty oil drum, into a sort of hollowed-out/dialed-back drumkit dropout...and now the drums are back, rolling instead of marching...fuck I should shut off the lights and listen to this, it's just that hot

like, this isn't amon amarth, but if you feel amon amarth I can't see you not feeling this

hockey game is now phoenix vs. st louis btw, fuck st louis they came here and beat carolina last night so go yotes

last track a little disappointing tbh, generic by comparison to the rest of the album but fucking A everybody that was a solid listen.

Where would you say they fall on the Prostitute Disfigurement scale of awesome?

I have to say that they are more interesting than Prostitute Disfigurement. PD are what the dude at the Sevared table called "brutal death!" in the cheeriest most awesome tone that I will remember all my life - Cannibal Corpse/Morbid Angel/Hate fuckin Eternal style you know - a genre I love (I am listening to some right now, Spanish band called Fermento whose singer has a really amazing pig squeal goin) but I can't sit here and go "oh yeah you gotta hear Fermento, it'll totally open your mind to the brutal death style." You love it maybe or you don't maybe but it's not something like Avenger where I'd say, yo, if you like metal, especially if you've liked metal since the early nineties/post-thrash era, you should fucking check this out, because it's really creative and interesting and sonically it's got a lot to recommend it. whereas with prostitute disfigurement I'm like, you don't like it, fine, what fucking ever, prostitute fucking disfigurement ok everybody else jump off a fuckin cliff. but brutal death is like thrash. you can't really make the case for thrash. either you want to thrash til death or you need to go home 'cause the show isn't gonna get more interesting for you. avenger is in the more artistic mode. but still punishing and great, not We Are Showing Off Our Art School Bona Fides artistic because everybody knows how I feel about that kinda thing.

I completely love it when J0hn gets excited about a band.

It's kinda sounding like you like them for the same reasons I like the melodic death metal band The Absence, who I recently commented about elsewhere, saying, "These guys are so good I thought they were from Sweden" (they're Americans). I will listen to Avenger.

Cannibal Corpse/Morbid Angel/Hate fuckin Eternal

This trio bemuses me, because I love Cannibal Corpse and I love Morbid Angel (the other day it was absolutely pouring down rain around here and I put on Gateways To Annihilation and it was just the perfect rainy day death metal album because the riffs were so slow, if you took away the blast beats it would be almost Swans-like in its crushing intensity) but man, I have tried and tried and Hate Eternal just don't pull my trigger. I tried listening to the most recent album and just focusing on the drummer, because he's a terrifying destruction machine, but I don't know, there's just some tiny but crucial element that's missing for me.

last time i bought a record cause john got excited about it it was the wetnurse record, which continues to blow me away with how good it is

this is not as crucial as wetnurse, invisible city was a pretty this-only-happens-every-so-often moment in my opinion

well yeah that's a really unique record that didn't really have many comparables but still i dig it when you get psyched and post on this thread

me too!!

I do too! Is this Feast of Anger, Joy of Despair? Because its on iTunes and J0hn's fawning is making me want to click 'Buy'.

Oh ha ha, you did say that it was already. Missed it in all the CAPITAL EXCITEMENT!

I am listening to it again

there's this breakdown at 2:10 - 2:32 of the first track where there's this interplay between an acoustic guitar (or two or them? or a 12-string?) and some fuzzed out picked electric & it's so hot it has me making jazz faces

Seriously we need a J0hn D. Awesome Metal Album Livecast.

I am currently enjoying the new solo album from Children of Bodom keyboardist Janne Warmen. Totally cheeseball Finnish melodic death/power/hair metal with no redeeming artistic value whatsoever, but it's a whole lot of fun. Crazy synth solos for everyone!

Also, surprisingly faithful covers of Joan Jett's "Black Cat" and Journey's "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)."

Which basically means that A. Begrand will like this and no one else.

Man, it might be redundant and obvious to talk about how the new Converge record slays me and impales my head on the city gates so I may be an example, but it does, I got friends who are all like, "Man they ain't evolving dramatically anymore" but who needs evolution when you are disembodied head warning travelers of the severe carnage done by the opening four songs.

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I will sheepishly admit that when I got the Warmen CD I popped it in and skipped ahead to those two tracks. And then I downloaded their Rockwell cover. I'm awful.