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bitches ftw

Jankovic: "I basically gave her everything. I beat myself. That was really unfortunately the case. My game was completely off."
Azarenka: "I'm glad she gave me the match and she was not in the mood. It worked out pretty well for me."

zing!

Roz, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm so glad someone finally used that response! I love JJ and hate Azarenka but Jelena walked into that one rather.

Surprised that everyone (except Serena) looks basically acceptable in the promo photo, given most of their track records. Spent a while trying to figure out if Venus pulls off her look, it's a bit aprony, but I think she does. Dinara's not great but could be and has been much worse. Everyone else plays it safe and together look boring, but on their own pretty good, especially Sweta of all people. Serena, jumpsuit, god, when she retires the attention-seeking is going to reach unprecedented heights, isn't it?

Apparently in Agassi's imminent autobiog, he admits to using crystal meth in '97!!!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

between that and maria sharapova snarking on both her AND azarenka a couple of weeks ago, jelena jankovic is officially the wta's new favourite punching bag.

the entire agassi story goes something like "i was on meth for a while, failed a drug test, made up a lie which the ATP bought, felt really bad about it and never did it again. ps richard gasquet ain't got nothing on me." ok i made that last part up but that's the gist of it.

tennis is so badass this year.

Roz, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link

LOLOLOLOLOLOL @ WTA!

Just tuned into Azarenka vs Wozniacki at 5-5 in the third, Azarenka having lost a 5-3 lead. First thing I hear, her horrible dying goose screech. And then amazing comedy as she gets TWO CONSECUTIVE CODE VIOLATIONS - ball abuse first and then on the next point she MURDERED her racquet and got a point penalty which handed Wozniacki that game. At the changeover she went completely insane and started banging the already-mangled racquet everywhere just to make sure it was totally dead, and then Wozniacki served out in about two seconds, fin.

Women's tennis may be the pits this year quality-wise, but comedy-wise it outstrips pretty much everything ever.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

!!! seriously... i thought that match would never fucking end. Azarenka was pathetic and hilarious.

and I am all of a sudden a Wozniacki fan and why not? In obvious pain, her serve falling apart and moon-balling all over the place but the girl just won't switch off, she's so dialed in on every point. And if she drives other players mad that way, more power to her. Also i love her hair.

Roz, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

oh shit that sounds amazing

ADVANCED CHORD CHANGES (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

um wtf happened to dinara? wasn't planning on watching it but i was looking at the scores and she retired after two games?

Roz, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

My only prediction before the tournament was that both alternates would be used. One down!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

her back or something? sigh fitting end to her season i suppose. this tourney could use some bepa battiness anyway.

Roz, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

@TennisReporters Among other people I don't want to be today is Antonio, Azarenka's coach, after she goes Myskina on him in the locker room
6 minutes ago from web

i'm so glad my favourite player's name has now entered the lexicon and been immortalised like this <3

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

woah so Safina withdrew because of a fracturing disc in her spine???? yikes, I kind of feel bad for making fun of her inability to win now

ADVANCED CHORD CHANGES (HI DERE), Thursday, 29 October 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

winced when i saw that yesterday but she said it wouldn't require surgery? don't know whether this is the same as/similar to the chronic back injuries which forced Kournikova and Golovin into retirement, hope not. i tend to take what tennis players say with a pinch of salt when it comes to their injuries, but Safina's not one of those who constantly claims to be on her deathbed before bravely rising from it to beat scrubs 0 and 1 without a hint of pain (Clijsters, Wozniacki).

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

caught a repeat of what happened earlier and it was kind of painful to watch, she was sobbing so hard. you're right though, safina hardly ever uses her injuries as excuses and as far as i can remember has never retired from a match regardless of how badly she's playing so it must be pretty bad if she really felt she couldn't play on. :/

Roz, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Today's insanity: Bepa starts the match with an extended meltdown, going down 0-6, 2-5 and at one point having to play with tissues still shoved in her nose. But she has clawed her way back in to take the second set on a TB, saving two match points along the way - one with a Hawkeye overrule!

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol what? I stopped watching after she got broken in the second. -_-

Roz, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

god this match is so boring

Roz, Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Absurd. Caroline either cramping or her hamstring was really paining her, she collapsed on the ground serving at *5-4, 30-30 in the third and played the rest of the match with tears streaming down her face and pretty much hobbled. Of course, Bepa still managed to fuck up! HOW DO YOU EVEN LOSE THAT GAME BEPA OMG. Absurd.

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently everything happens when i'm not watching. that match was so unbearably awful though.

Roz, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah, hideous quality. Wozniacki with her usual midpaced nothing shots, and Bepa just refusing to go for anything, rally continues in this vein until someone hits a stupid error five miles out. when a match is like that I only tune in at the end of sets...

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i know i wanted some bepa battiness but that was too much.

i'm back to hating on Caro btw. it always throws me when she whales a forehand and it falls like three feet inside the baseline.

Roz, Thursday, 29 October 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Her FH is truly the stuff of nightmares. So weak.

Azarenka losing it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLMSONEBDNQ

lex pretend, Thursday, 29 October 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

My only prediction before the tournament was that both alternates would be used. One down!

good call now that Bepa's pulled out of Doha citing ankle injury which means A-Rad will playing Azarenka. Caro looked pretty terrible at the end of that last match, what happens if she pulls out too? I haven't watched one of these in years so i've no idea what the rules are at this point.

Roz, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Utterly non-topical, just a bit of wtf trivia I came across...

i) go here, and change the years in the boxes to, say, 1992 and 2001;

ii) shrug at Mr Guilfoil's unremarkable results, not unlike thousands of other players who tried and failed;

iii) then click the "Biography" tab and marvel. Can anyone just show up or something?

anatol_merklich, Monday, 2 November 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm thinking that he was kind of abusing the notion of 'futures' there.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link

There was I being embarrassed at losing a club match to a white-haired 59-y-o when I was a teenager, and there's aspiring pro Brian Wright, dropping four games to a 77-y-o...

Gotta be wrong, surely?!

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, these bottom-rung tournaments attract a huge variety of people trying their luck or just entering on a lark - as far as i know, you pay your fee and if there's space in the qualifying draw, you get in. 50-year-old dewonder davis has been playing US satellites for a decade. sometimes she's even won a couple of games!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

and a lot of the younger "aspiring pros" are complete shit - look up the record of one brie whitehead, for example - so if that guilfoil dude was in good shape, even at 77, played an old-skool s&v game, it doesn't surprise me at all that someone who may not be more than a club hacker would lose games to him.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link

http://billg.usptapro.com/default.aspx/MenuItemID/351/MenuGroup/ProHome06.htm

yeah I can believe that he could offer a little embarrassment to some 17-year-old chump.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah all these smaller tournaments have pretty huge qualifying draws so it's not actually that difficult to get in and play a couple of matches if you can pay the entry fee. but that's pretty amazing regardless - that site says he was a world-ranked table tennis player as well.

here's victoria azarenka and caro wozniacki bringing some cute self-deprecating snark to the WTA about one minute in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9zF1l63v0

Can't stand either of them on a tennis court but no lie, I think they're both pretty fabulous. They're basically my anti-JJ, who i think is kind of a horrible person but who's great to watch when she's playing well.

Roz, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Malisse and Wickmayer banned for a year for not filling in two whereabouts and missing one doping test (Malisse) and not filling in three whereabouts (Wickmayer).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8345711.stm

StanM, Friday, 6 November 2009 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of want to rename this thread "Who is James Blake losing to this week?" ;_;

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Friday, 6 November 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

there's an up-and-coming dubstep producer called James Blake, lol.

the Wickmayer suspension is so fucked...she didn't even miss any tests. Surely she'll win her appeal though - when this case first came up, her argument that her password for the computer system to log her whereabouts failed (and then she wasn't at home to pick up the new one because hello, tennis players are always on tour) was backed up by IT records and the prosecutor recommended a warning, not a suspension. So this decision has to be down to jobsworthiness or politics. And looks particularly bad in the context of Gasquet and Agassi this year.

It was the Belgian doping authorities who nearly fucked Kuznetsova's career up a few years ago due to their idiocy, wasn't it? Hmmmm.

lex pretend, Friday, 6 November 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

So there's a sort of 2nd-division round-robin event this week in Bali for all the WTA tournament winners who didn't qualify for Doha? Who knew? Is this the first time they've done this? Bit like the old Ladies' Plate event at Wimbledon (won by Sue Barker one year), for first-round losers (well, not very much like that then).

Michael Jones, Friday, 6 November 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Even worse than that - it's the International event winners only, ie the former Tier III/Tier IV minnie-mouse tournaments traditionally won by nonentity journeywomen. It's not a terrible field, and I like all four SFists a lot (Bartoli, Martinez Sanchez, Date-Krumm, Rezai) but honestly there was no demand for any sort of round-robin event featuring the likes of Medina Garrigues and Czink, no justification for the huge points on offer (600 for the winner!!!) and just no point at all.

Plus having clear and specific qualification criteria is no good if you're going to have arbitrary WCs as well. The WTA is such a poorly-run organisation.

lex pretend, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

You may as well bring back for-TV invitational exhibition events with diamond-studded gold rackets as prizes (remember that Antwerp event Lendl always used to win?).

Michael Jones, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Not to mention that the biggest advantage of a four-groups-of-three RR system is that it can avoid any dead rubbers - and yet the WTA STILL manages to fuck this up with poor scheduling.

xp haha that was a WTA event for a while this decade - the diamond racket went to anyone who could win the tournament 3 times in five years, Mauresmo ended up winning it...

lex pretend, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Lendl did the 3-in-5-years thing between '81 and '85 (the '85 final vs McEnroe was live on ITV, bizarrely - I can still remember the score: 1-6 7-6 6-2 6-2) and last I heard Ivan's blingy racket was in some bank vault somewhere.

Michael Jones, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Venus won it twice and for a while it was about the only tour event that she'd be 100% cast-iron guaranteed to show up at.

lex pretend, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

There was talk of bringing that diamond thing back in Antwerp now that local crowd and sponsor pullers Kim and Justine will be playing again but I don't know the latest news about this.

StanM, Friday, 6 November 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope Marat goes out in a blaze of racket smashing glory later today although i would love to see him go on a run to the semi's or final before losing to Nadal or Fed. His final match ought to be against one of those guys.

same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:15 (fourteen years ago) link

go out in style, marat.

video of him winning the USO in 2000...he was so beautiful then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iR-TkvFWkM

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Marat a break down in the final set, looks like the end of the line

same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

a really sad way for my favorite player to go out, if that's the case. His run at wimbledon a couple years ago was great though

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

It's all over :(

same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

:( :( :(

I've been out mountain climbing for the past week or so and was hoping to get back in time to catch Maratski's last match (against JMDP of all people - there's a nice symmetry there, two twenty year olds who toppled undeniable greats at the USO) and wouldn't you know it... just six hours late. :(

goodbye you crazy beautiful bastard.

Roz, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i missed it too, too much work :(

good to see he scrubbed up well for his farewell. would say "great career" except it was more about wasted talent, but at least he was ridiculously beautiful...except as often as not he wasted that too, with strange facial hair and such. loved him anyway.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah and the worst thing about it is that he had started looking really fantastic again over the past few months - not just looks-wise but even playing like he cares again. just wanting to make us miss him more, i suppose. gahhh.

Roz, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

You may as well bring back for-TV invitational exhibition events with diamond-studded gold rackets as prizes (remember that Antwerp event Lendl always used to win?).

― Michael Jones, Friday, November 6, 2009 4:29 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

December 9th, Antwerp: Kim Clijsters vs. Venus Williams.

http://www.thomascookdiamondgames.be/

StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Um, I don't think Yanina's 4 court cases against that 1 year ban will be over by then:

Schedule Thomas Cook Diamond Games
7pm: Yanina Wickmayer - Patty Schnyder
8.30pm: Music show (Milk Inc)
9.30pm: Kim Clijsters - Venus Williams

StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

exos aren't proper "competition", she'll be allowed to play unless the organiser disinvites her. she'd be wise to - they're paid hefty sums to play these and it looks like she won't have an income next year...

lex pretend, Saturday, 14 November 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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