i'm jealous! have fun
― tremendoid, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
I lurve Pink Moon.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
sebadoh > nick drake
― stephen, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
sebadoh is shit. anyway this thread is for nick drake lo-- oh right.
― tremendoid, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
Few singers can get away with doing that excessively tender and exposed thing all the time, but he's one of them.
And so is Mark Kozelek.
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
A 'new' album up soon, right?
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 08:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
And I thought the Pistols were champions in the "horse, dead, flogging of" category.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 08:50 (5 years ago) Permalink
They aint even in the southern prem league!
Hendrix, Marley, etc.
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 08:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
although..
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
Tupac, dudes (xp)
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 09:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
I stand by what I said upthread, in that I love FFL pretty much whole, but only find other songs beyond that really compelling. I like Drake, and loved him, possibly, for a while when I was about 17.
Consistency or un-variation I don't see as a problem at all; in fact an artist exploring their aesthetic over a number of years and records is often very compelling.
Possibly the crux of Drake for me, and the moment which proves he's not just an emotional one-trick pony, is the miraculous, soaring, joyous (to me, at any rate) acoustic guitar solo which sears through the centre of "Black Eyed Dog"; possibly it's Drake's saddest tune, his most defeated - he certainly sounds to me as if he's crying as he sings it - and then this solo tears the song in two, elevates the mood incredibly, exposes blue skies where there was really only black before.
― Scik Mouthy, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
Damn Nick you have to stop making me scramble to find songs you keep describing like this.
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:24 (5 years ago) Permalink
IT'S MY JOB, INNIT. Sort of.
― Scik Mouthy, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
In my view, the great thing about Nick Drake is that he wrote these beautiful melodic songs, with very pastoral arrangements, no rough edges and a musical style that would have been considered "twee" hadn't it been for the lyrics and his tragic life history. And yet, this "twee" music has received a lot of critical acclaim. Which is great, but other "twee" artists should have just as much love too :)
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 June 2007 11:34 (5 years ago) Permalink
His lyrics are often pretty twee
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 11:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Fwuit Twee" for instance (sorry)
Unlike his sister in There's A Girl In My Soup...
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:30 (5 years ago) Permalink
Who would have thought Nick Drake's sister would end up as Kelly Monteith's wife?
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
wait, Gabrielle Drake is Nick Drake's sister? I didn't know that...
― Roz, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
Same hairstyle:
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
The chin is the giveaway!
^^ I want this outfit
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
You want to wear a rug?
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
short answer: yes
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
There should be more carpet sample inspired musicians out there.
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
Just walk into any curtains shop and you will find clothes like that.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
there's a weak pun to be made here somewhere...
― Roz, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
Pull yourself together, man
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 12:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
Yup, there was.
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Pink moon is far from twee. So you are half right.
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
That was precisely the same rug in which his sister concealed Ronnie Corbett in No Sex Please We're British.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
Seriously, y'all have to hear Sebadoh murdering "Pink Moon", its kind of awesome in the gall it has.
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
I can wait another decade or six.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
Pft, I suppose you dont like Dino's cover of "Just Like Heaven" either?
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
i certainly don't.. sorry. i haven't heard the sebadoh pink moon though
― electricsound, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
Well you'd hate it I reckon, in that case Jim :)
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:16 (5 years ago) Permalink
In fairness, it isnt particularly amazingly great, the verses are nice but the chorus is FUCKED UP.
― Trayce, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
Dean Martin did "Just Like Heaven"????? Why didn't Nick Tosches tell me this?
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think a Dean Martin album of Nick Drake covers would have saved several lives.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink
Can I mention Elton John now?
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 13:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
Who would have thought that Nick Drake's best mate at school would have had a worldwide number one in the eighties about his wife when he was actually having it off with the nanny?
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
Me for a kick-off!
― Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
That's the one Nick Drake album I don't like.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
Bryter Later is entwined with perfect early summer evenings over looking the Calverley Grounds at Tunbridge Wells in 2003. Perfect mesh of music, time and place.
― acrobat, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
I've not listened to it in about 5 years, but I seem to remember Pink Moon being perfect if I was in good mood and just as perfect if I was sad about something.
So yeah, it's probably twee.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
Why is his music "twee"? Is all folk music twee?
― Bimble, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
Please. Nick Drake is not twee.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
is this a u.k - u.s divide? i know twee is strictly pejorative over there and isn't over here (as much), though I don't think it qualifies as twee either way personally a case could be made.
― tremendoid, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
Wait, where do you think twee is strictly pejorative? I often think it's funny the way twee is sometimes used as a favorable or neutral descriptor and other times as a sneering insult, depending on who says it and how it's said.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
the u.k., i thought. My impression is that it didn't have any connotation over here (u.s.), so when people called sarah stuff or whatever 'twee' we just picked it up and ran with it as a neutral quasi-genre descriptor. heh I've read 'twee as fuck' more than once, i have no excuse to be so fuzzy about such things.
― tremendoid, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
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I think of "twee" as being specifically associated with Sarah records, bands like Heavenly, Talulah Gosh or I guess even Belle & Sebastian. I normally don't like that kind of music, so to me it is pejorative. I don't think it has much to do with nationality, really.
Now is the time to confess, though, that what I dread even more than the term "twee" applied to Nick Drake is "emo". I do believe there are special torture chambers in hell for people who would call him that.
― Bimble, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:50 (5 years ago) Permalink