MBV Comeback.

C'mon man, are you forgetting Tsunami and Mr. Mirainga?

sean i hear what you're saying.

it sucks that the years keep going by and by and all the cool new stuff becomes stale old stuff.

but personally, this is more just me, it's like the internet has kinda got me tired of the future. like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't....one day i might want to listen to black mountain or another day i might want to listen to buddy holly or guilty simpson or whatever.

everyone likes to think about the olden tymes. whether that meant you rocked tied dies and flares or mohawks or charlie brown t-shirts and converse. and why not? if the music was good and you want to see it again, that seems just as relevant anymore as like checking out be your own pet or lil wayne.

ok, the Rock Festival Hero video game is becoming less of a joke and really needs to happen.

it will use the much touted BOON-GA BOON-GA game engine.

Have you heard of Mr. Mirainga yet? If you havn't, you soon will. Slowly but surely, Mr. Mirainga is creeping into American homes. Mr. Mirainga (Mer-aine-gay) made their stunning debut with an EP titled Fuck The Scene. Now out comes their debut self-titled album, and it's already turning people's heads. The song "Burnin' Rubber" is on the Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls. This song burned its way straight up Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks. And now with the Adam Sandler-meets-Rancid single "Baglady", Mr Mirainga will be around a while.

Some of their favorite bands are the Sex Pistols, Black Flag, and The Clash. These punkish influences show up in songs like "57 South" and "Waterdog". Keeping with the punk tradition, only 5 of the 15 songs are above three and half minutes.

Then again, these guys aren't from the New York punk scene. According to bassist Hedge, "We're not part of any scene in particular. We are an Arizona band." Being so close to Mexico, some of those mamba-samba sounds have seeped into Mr. Mirainga's music - such as the wonderfully Latin "Saguarro's Cryin'", and sometimes even fusing the two as in the song "Jalopeno Eyes" - pronounced as it looks, not as pronounced in Spanish.

A little pop-punk, a little bit salsa and that's Mr. Mirainga. They're on tour with God Lives Underwater - a show not to be missed.

NB: I resisted listing Tsunami for reals because of my shamless Simple-Machines-fanboy past.

Adam Sandler-meets-Rancid

Punky Gilmore

but personally, this is more just me, it's like the internet has kinda got me tired of the future. like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't....one day i might want to listen to black mountain or another day i might want to listen to buddy holly or guilty simpson or whatever.

you M don't misread me, I agree with what you're saying here - I am totally in favor of old bands still working, and I don't say they have to be always innovating. (It'd be pretty ripe for me to be the guy demanding that bands always be branching out, right?) But it's this revivalism that icks me out - like, if, I don't know, MBV doing Loveless turned out to be Shields playing all the songs on a Fender Rhodes and singing the words clearly, that'd be interesting and different. But "great bands performing their classic albums" - when the bands and albums in question were iconoclastic signal moments whose very motivations, in some cases, were the tearing down of dwelling-in-the-past modes of thinking - well, y'know, it's like I'm sure that last Sex Pistols tour was a fine rockin' time, but how sad for it to have come to that. You know? It's not that I ONLY want CONVULSIVE! INNOVATION! - fuck dude I listen to death metal, that shit has been stagnant for ages and I like it that way - but (and I say this as an old dude!) once you start making a point of reliving the past, it's just strikes me as really conservative.

xpost Ned every time I post I'm xposting with you

Slow day at work, active MBV thread...

LOL

I'd pay $12 to see The Mountain Goats (w/ Rachel!) perform... Sweden.

^^^^ wipeout

your $12 are safe, when we played together last year we made a point of learning new stuff together - fuck memory lane

I've been trying to put together a more cohesive reaction to this all beyond all the uselessness I've said so far on this thread, but John's mostly capturing where I'm coming from. Still, I'm of two minds about the play-albums-through thing but only because I think there can be exceptions to the rule -- I wouldn't mind seeing that whole Sparks deal going down in a few weeks, for instance, though at the same time they've made a point of touring their latest album each time that way and will be doing the same again with the newest one once everything's wrapped up in London, in otherwards fully putting the focus ON the new stuff as much as possible, however much they rely on certain standards in the rest of their sets.

As I semi-muttered above, really it's just something about the whole idea that this is where the sense of legacy has ended up, to a large but not complete extent (somehow I can't imagine Albini being a huge MBV fan but I could be missing something). And if Kevin Shields made the final decision on who played...I dunno, it's just that here was the guy who was talking about Public Enemy as the wave of the future in 1988 and raving on about jungle tracks back in 1993 and so forth.

You played together again?!?!?!?! No way. Any recordings out there?

I dunno, it's just that here was the guy who was talking about Public Enemy as the wave of the future in 1988 and raving on about jungle tracks back in 1993 and so forth.

you did hear the Lost In Translation soundtrack?

Of course. I should have known then!

More artists should be like Fela: play a song live for awhile, record it, then never play it again.

Watching a band play its classic album from beginning to end sounds like such a prefab experience.

like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't.

this is pretty much how I feel. as such I don't really have a desire to see MBV perform a single album, or anyone perform a single album in its entirety (sounds kinda boring and predictable). I will probably shell out for the Zep reunion tour though.

but yeah the idea that music was IMPORTANT because it SIGNALLED THE FUTURE or something and that makes it worth listening to... ah who gives a shit.

I've heard that Kev The Shields has released a new 'sus 4 add nine chord'?

He has been working on it for just the last 12 years and nine have died.

re: prefab experience:
I saw a Daydream Nation show and I was worried about that at the time, and yes, there was some immediacy taken away from the proceedings, where you felt like you were at a receital or something "important"...but that kind of dissipated after a few songs

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but:

You played together again?!?!?!?! No way. Any recordings out there?

http://www.archive.org/details/tmg2006-12-02

hey that's a good enough point. ah, pitzer college. i spent a good portion of my youth around there. but nothing as rad as that concert ever happened sadly.

all respect to tMg \m/, but someone put on an Unwound, Lync, Indian Summer, and Second Story Window show there in mid-1993. That's at least on the same tier of awesome... not to mention a Dump/Refrigerator show in 1999 or so.

See, this was the 90s awesomeness, bands from San Diego that lasted three weeks before recombining DNA to form two splinter groups until it was a mass pyramid schem'a screamo.

yeah i guess it's sad how things work out. but isn't a lot of this just a reaction to all the PR b.s. the artists themselves were spewing at the time they were fresh (like what ned was talking about).....the same stuff all the classic rock godz they were supposedly fighting against said when they were young bucks.

every generation thinks it invented the blowjob.

Talking bout my ge-ne-ra-tion!

every generation thinks it invented the blowjob.

M@tt for the win

Why the fuck is everyone saying that it's going to be MBV performing Loveless? Neither of the links that list other bands playing old albums put anything beside the Valentine name.

Thurston Moore performing Psychic Hearts

I'd be against this kinda thing but I just can't wait for this timeless classic to be performed live.

I'm not sure anyone has stated this yet, but I think there are two sides to the "classic album" performance. One is a band like the Stones, Sex Pistols or whatever touring on old material over and over, nothing new to add, and yes, that's gotta be lame. But on the other hand, a lot of the bands doing the ATP Don't Look Back thing -- for example Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, Low all come to mind -- I mean, all of those bands are relatively active with new material as well, so the classic album front-to-back performance is more of a limited-run special event than a way for the bands to cash in repeatedly. Sonic Youth has stopped with the Daydream tour and are back to new material; Low did a one-time performance of Things We Lost in the Fire, yet they haven't stopped pushing forward since; and Public Enemy will no doubt have another new, ignored album out after these Nation of Millions dates. It's not a full-blown reunion tour, it's a one-time special deal. And I think that's awesome.

And yes, I'd love to see the MBV reunion at this fest.

I have inside knowledge that they've been rehearsing with 200 effects pedals. That should be enough, no?

yeah stephen I'm just a grumpus about this (and plenty of other things of course) - it seems such a willful celebration of the whole concept of The Canon, which I think is a pernicious, loathsome thing to celebrate

per·ni·cious Audio Help [per-nish-uhs] Pronunciation Key
–adjective
1. causing insidious harm or ruin; ruinous; injurious; hurtful: pernicious teachings; a pernicious lie.

is Thurston Moore trying to cause insidious harm or ruin?? i mean, I'd hardly call Psychic Hearts a part of The Canon -- it's just a good-to-great Thurston solo album that the big SY fans at this event will be excited to hear played live, and you know, the same fans will keep on checking out everything Thurston/SY does in the future regardless of this one show.

Part of me can't help but think one of the most awesome things in the world would be for a touring band with one classic album to be playing a regular show...then in the middle of their set, they play the first song from that album...followed by the second...followed by the third... People start to clue in "holy crap, are they going to play the album in its entirety?" And the band keeps playing the album in order, whipping the crowd into a frenzy. Then, they play the next-to-last song on the album ....and walk offstage. House lights go up.

If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.

When I saw the Damned they played like the 1st 5 songs off Machine Gun Etiquette, in order. I started to wonder if they were going to do the whole album but then after that they played New Rose and it was a normal set. Was fucking ace though.

x-post -- Prince doing that with Purple Rain would be even funnier.

Cheap Trick was messing around with this idea years ago. I saw them play the entire first record in Grand Rapids in the mid 90s.

x-post - Roger Waters - Meddle (without Echoes)

There. I gave away Coachella.

You bad man.

Anyway, oddly (?) enough I just got wind of this in an e-mail:

PATTI SMITH AND KEVIN SHIELDS SET TO RELEASE THE CORAL SEA
EMOTIONAL SPOKEN-WORD REQUIEM RECORDED LIVE IN 2005 & 2006
DOUBLE-DISC RELEASE SET FOR JULY 11. 2008

Legendary artist Patti Smith and My Bloody Valentine's Kevin Shields are set to release a double-disc set of their live performance of The Coral Sea on July 11, 2008 on their own PASK imprint. The Coral Sea is Patti Smith's posthumous homage to her friend and photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and the title to her 1996 book. Kevin Shields accompanies her on guitars and effects and creates a haunting backdrop to the spoken prose.

The recordings were made June 22nd 2005 and September 12th, 2006 respectively at sold-out performances at the QEH in London. The set will run almost two-hours with a different stylistic approach to each performance. The UK's Guardian upon reviewing the 2005 performance gave it 5 stars and called it "magical."

One critic said of the live performance: A kind of screaming requiem, The Coral Sea describes Mapplethorpe's terminal illness. Intense, layered electronics surged to a discordant climax as Patti Smith read her poem, the words sailing over the noise like an ocean liner, with the black-and-white video showing the ocean, the liner and the grey twilight of grief. The poem tells the story of M (Mapplethorpe) on a final voyage to see the stars of the Southern Cross before he dies.

Long-rumored to be released on CD, this first official issuing of these live recordings have been curated with care by both Patti Smith and Kevin Shields. Whether the duo will reprise this performance in the future is still unknown.

stephen you didn't actually copy in the dictionary definition of "pernicious" instead of say trying to figure out what I might have meant by it did you

I know you didn't do that

note that when I say "I know," I don't actually mean "I have knowledge of" here

no MBV no peace
know MBV know peace

If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.

-- Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Not the Nobel Peace Prize though.