ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

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i just watched drag me to hell last night, and as a old school Raimi fanboy it was a ton of fun (srsly sam it is amazing how much mileage you can get out of the power of people/corpses/demonwhatevers vomiting on other people). Curious to find out how it worked for people that weren't kind of the target audience, esp the classic moments of Raimi complete set up nonsense (the best of which had to be the "well duh why not use these ice skates i was about to pawn on my suspended anvil" idiot lunacy).

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

anybody see any of the big remakes (last house on the left, whichever one rob zombie did this year, etc)?

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

drag me to hell was so great -- just rewatched but seeing it in the theatre was amazing what with everyone laughing & screaming simultaneously

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think the only nasty cut-em-up flicks i like anymore come from france or asia, though the first 'hostel' and the first 'saw' were good. i have a ton of friends who are in the horror film community and they're all pretty cynical about it these days, everyone wants to turn shit pg-13.

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

no desire to see the halloween remake, but the trailer was fucking terrifying (i've long held that horror movie trailers are usually way scarier than the actual movie, you just get a succession of jumps and creepy images without any context or warning).

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

loved drag me... anyone seen paranormal activity yet?

or left bank?

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

the french stuff is just brutal, but its been some of my favorite stuff as well, im sure a bunch of the usual whiners are going to lump it into the totally dumb invented "torture porn" genre but it just has such a deep sense of misanthropic malice and self-loathing xpost

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

i have a ton of friends who are in the horror film community and they're all pretty cynical about it these days, everyone wants to turn shit pg-13.

― access flap (omar little), Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ omar's friends

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

considering using my mod cheat powers to edit the title to include 2008 because so much great unheralded stuff came out last year

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

'inside' was just as rough thematically as it was in terms of gore imo, i.e. it's one of my favorite films of the past few years.

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

id make it the whole decade but i think that the hostel/saw/ring/rob zombie non remake stuff would just take over and we've talked about that a billion times already (i love all three of the originals, and will go to bat for hostel 2 as well)

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

me too hostel 2 is so underrated

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

really felt roth didn't want to cheap out with an easy sequel on that one

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

the saw series has turned into a joke imo

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah saw 3 was particularly awful

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

never seen a saw movie (i am okay w this)

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't really feel Hostel when I watched it - though that might've been because I'd watched Wolf Creek the night before which ten times more brutal and believable. Still haven't seen any of the Saws.

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

martyrs was the best horror movie I've seen in years. it's french torture porn, and then again, it's not... which is what makes it so great. it totally transcends the genre and I can guarantee you won't guess where it's going.

eden park was pretty good. not the greatest film ever made but a nice patch on the "hunted by locals in the woods" genre.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eden Lake you mean? I liked that a lot, some bits haunted me for a few days. Such a dark ending!

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

duh, yeah eden lake

there are a lot of recent horror films I wanted to see that I haven't gotten around to. off the top of my head: teeth, the uninvited, embodiment of evil, dead snow... and I guess the haunting in ct now...

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

anybody repping for inside in this thread needs to see martyrs stat

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

paranormal is not that great. download it and see it at home. more of a living room thing than a theatre experience.

let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wanna see nightmare, too. it's an older film that just got released on DVD, kind of low budget but looks promising.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455983/

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh hey btw for the french horror heads, if you haven't seen frontier(s), thats pretty essential

Eden Lake is british, right? some great horror coming out of britain in the past few years, esp if you like a bit of comedy mixed with your gore (top recs would be Severance and Shrooms)

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

paranormal is not that great. download it and see it at home. more of a living room thing than a theatre experience.

― let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

really? how so? i would think it would be a quintessential movie theater movie!!

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

I liked Drag me to Hell. Also liked Jennifer's Body actually. I think a lot of good recent US horror has been genre pastiche/comedy (I'd include Hostel ii).
The French/Asian stuff is nice because it still does well playing the eeriness/bone-gristle straight. I've only seen the first 2 Saws but had to stop because why bother when there's stuff like Martyrs out there.

xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

dead snow is pretty half-assed tbh

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

theres a foreign language film that is a great companion piece to Eden Lake that i can't remember the name of right now and it is killing me.

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eden Lake is british, right? some great horror coming out of britain in the past few years, esp if you like a bit of comedy mixed with your gore

Yep, it's British. Not many laughs though.

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just grabbed some new 80s movies to watch. Can anyone vouch for these?

Combat Shock
Demented
Don't Go In The House
Night of the Demon

let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah wait, Ils (or Them) is the Eden Lake parallel. creeeeepy

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha yeah Eden Lake is def not chock full o' laughs

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

really? how so? i would think it would be a quintessential movie theater movie!!

Because...

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...it is pretty much just a Blair Witch clone and more fun than scary. For me, the experience was ruining by a theatre of 500 groaning teens.
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let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

*ruined

let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

combat shock is fucked up. also pretty interesting and pretty good.

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

thread title edit for the purposes of why not

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

In light of the new title I will mention Wolf Creek again.

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

dead snow is pretty half-assed tbh

yeah it looks totally cheeseball but I'm a huge shock waves fan so...

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

speaking of which, the aussies have def had a horror boom this decade as well xpost

Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

for aussie film fans i def recommend this hilarious doc:

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

"The Descent" is still the scariest film of that time span. "Drag Me to Hell" was tons of fun, though essentially just a remake of "Night of the Demon." "Zombieland" was entertaining, but totally sloppy and lazy.

Aussie-wise, "Rogue" is an undervalued and very well made gem in the giant croc genre.

Just came across some Korean POV torture porn flick called "The Butcher," which from the look of it may be the most unpleasant movie ever made.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

WC is the only Aussie horror I've seen that I can recall. Recommendations?

xxpost

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

xp to jeff
I saw 'Don't Go In The House' last October. It has a nice gritty grindhouse vibe along w/ a Norman Bates type guy who uses a flamethrower instead of a knife.

xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Any good Japanese stuff from this period?

His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's another Korean flick, but if you count "The Host" as horror, "The Host" is a blast. The director's "Memories of Murder," while slightly pre-2005, is worth seeing, too, though not really a horror film. More a serial killer procedural along the same lines as "Zodiac."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just grabbed some new 80s movies to watch. Can anyone vouch for these?

Combat Shock
Demented
Don't Go In The House
Night of the Demon

if you are in the mood to see one of the worst films ever made, you can't go wrong with the 1980 night of the demon

http://www.youtube.com/v/CryBPpYTWfk

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

so weird i was just going to mention memories of murder with that same caveat

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

memories of murder is almost on par with zodiac i think

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

At some point J-horror switched from ghost girls to low budget OTT 80's style gore. I'm not really keen on it.
One I liked was 'Exte' by the guy who did Suicide Circle about cursed hair extensions. Tonally a lot like Uzumaki & pretty fun.

xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

the horror film 'the booth' is a very good japanese flick about a haunted DJ booth. not gory but i thought it was pretty spooky especially considering the setting.

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

In the Posession though it's goyim getting possessed by the dybbuk. Until matisyahu comes to the rescue.

(Half decent movie, about as worth watching but dumb as The Conjuring and with at least one riff much scarier than anything in The Conjuring.)

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

I know I've said this several times before in other horror threads but I think The Exorcist handles this tendency much more gracefully than is the norm. Religion doesn't ultimately prove to be a much more effective framework to use in tackling the problem than medicine did, and I posit that it's possible that everyone in the movie/audience is operating under a misapprehension of what the entity's true nature is (i.e. maybe just a malevolent force and not a demon per se).

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

I don't think I've seen this Posession movie, is it worth watching

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

don't get me wrong I like the Exorcist and think it's a good movie, I just don't find the central premise scary. It does have enough other stuff going on - the priest with the lapsed faith, the pubescents=monsters metaphor, excellent shots/staging - to keep me engaged.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:48 (1 week ago) Permalink

Oh, I don't know. The Possession is like The Conjuring and all other movies of that ilk: well shot, well acted, some good jumps, ultimately all blurring into the same pretty-good movie from the 2010s.

The Thnig, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:49 (1 week ago) Permalink

haha okay pass

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:49 (1 week ago) Permalink

the pubescents=monsters metaphor
yeah, this is the best

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

I was getting a bit confused with the whole Possession/The Possession thing for a moment there.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

Lol yeah definite equal sign with a slash through it there

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:59 (1 week ago) Permalink

It would help if there weren't, like, 47 movies named Possession. Do an IMDB search, screenwriters/producers.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

Dracula Vs. Golem movie, make it happen.

Liked how Cabin in the Woods introduced a pre-Judeo-Christian pagan apocalypse. Not enough pagan apocalypse going around.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

I think a lot of my problem with these Catholic-centric movies is not necessarily the backgrounded theology/mysticism itself but that the movies usually take it as a given that the institution itself of the Catholic Church is literally constantly waging a universal battle against evil, that this is its very nature. which is only the sort of thing the most credulous true believers accept.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

like in the Conjuring, it's explicitly spelled out that not just *anybody* can yell latin at a demon, it has to be a properly ordained priest, an official representative of the church.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think even lots of Catholics would find the idea of the pope and his army battling evil spirits quite silly.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

it's not so much the conception of the pope punching Satan in the mouth or whatever that bothers me as it is this assumed, completely ahistorical view of the church. yup, nothin but good folks working there for the past 2000 years - no murderers, rapists, lechers, sadists, greedy bastards involved there nope not a one. as long as all they all had some magic latin and crosses the Devil was runnin scared!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

I wanna see more movies where they bring in the priests to deal with the supernatural crisis and they just fail completely.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

Like.... the Exorcist?

emil.y, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

haha yeah that is one of the better twists in the Exorcist

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

More movies. More.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

I don't know, maybe I'm watching the wrong (for which read right) films or just making up endings in my head after the fact, but I can't think of any where priests/religious types *do* win.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:50 (1 week ago) Permalink

Maybe I just don't watch very many "priesty man kill demon" horrors?

emil.y, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

When did a horror film ever portray the whole history of the Catholic church as always good?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

There's a good Manly Wade Wellman story about a travelling folk singer fighting a singing demon but it really shitted all over the story when he summoned George Washington to beat the demon. It was appealingly odd, but why did it have to be a guy like Washington?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:55 (1 week ago) Permalink

When did a horror film ever portray the whole history of the Catholic church as always good?

the portrayal is implied in films like the Conjuring and the Exorcist. the Devil's the ultimate evil, what can possibly fight the Devil? why, the Catholic Church of course!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:59 (1 week ago) Permalink

it's the implied faith in the Church as an ahistorical institution, a counterweight to evil whose power is in its liturgy and rituals

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

Just watched the original Amityville Horror for the first time the other night. Everyone affiliated with the church was rendered completely ineffectual pretty much right off the bat and they took the brunt of the supernatural punishment.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

the lawsuits around Amityville Horror are pretty fascinating/lolzy

this is making me want to dig into some Satanic panic research-type books

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

Not enough pagan apocalypse going around.
pagans don't need the apocalypse to be scary -- they're scary enough as is ;)

strongly recommend debbie nathan's book about the satanic panic

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:17 (1 week ago) Permalink

Ghostbusters is pretty non-denominational demon, too, right?

The best bit in the first Paranormal Activity movie is when they call in the first spiritual housecleaner, who walks into the house and is immediately basically, wow, this is so above my paygrade I need to leave right now, good luck with your demon.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:27 (1 week ago) Permalink

It's true, pre-EXORCIST there used to be tons of impending pagan apocalypse of the HOUSE OF THE DEVIL sort. Lots of Hammer films featured various pentagrams upon which corseted bosoms would heave and ornamental knives would slash and demons would (almost) erupt.

The Thnig, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

That Paranormal Activity thing reminds me of Dan Akroyd as a Ghostbuster in Casper

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

I basically want the group of kinky weirdos from the ritual scene in Curse of the Crimson Cult to be behind all evil doing in all films

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

Any views on the 2011 Coppola film Twixt? I've mostly heard it wasn't good.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 October 2014 15:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

It has some fans.

Simon H., Saturday, 18 October 2014 15:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

those fans are wrong

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

one of the worst things ive seen in a long long time

on the other hand, in the netflix shovelware because otherwise you'll miss it category, "Mine Games" (yeah, I know) is surprisingly effective, falls somewhere between Baghead and Triangle. I really really enjoyed it. the basic concept gets all kind or ropey and confusing but they pull it off quite well.

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:34 (1 week ago) Permalink


this is making me want to dig into some Satanic panic research-type books

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/demons-of-the-modern-world-malcolm-mcgrath/1012496645?ean=9781573929356


This fascinating discussion of modern demonology focuses on our ability to differentiate the physical world, with its mechanical laws, from the inherently less predictable psychological realm of thoughts and beliefs. McGrath points out that this ability was a hard-won historical development, and today must be learned in childhood through education. Because of this historical background and our rich fantasy life in childhood, each of us unconsciously suspects, or fears, that supernatural forces may break through the borders of our everyday commonsense order at any time. Indeed, at times of personal stress or societal crisis, the modern boundaries between fantasy and reality begin to slip, and then a magical world of demons and other phantasms can come flooding back into our disenchanted reality.

Through this innovative thesis McGrath goes a long way toward explaining both our fascination with fantasy entertainment, such as horror stories and films, and bizarre crazes such as witch-hunts, Satanism scares, and even claims of alien abduction. Despite our demystified culture the lure of childhood's magic kingdom with its monstrous shadow realm remains strong.


There's really no need for the lurid dustjacket; McGrath's analysis of the Satanism and recovered-memory scare of the 1980s, as well as many people's continuing insistence on the reality of alien abductions and other frightening phenomena, is chilling all on its own as a lesson on the dangers such beliefs still pose to society centuries after the witch trials. McGrath (doctoral candidate, political philosophy, Oxford U.) traces the origins and manifestations of the "strange fear," which is built into Western civilization: "that somewhere on the edges of our reality there is a world of demons that is trying to break into our world and wreak havoc." His history examines why such myths persist and how lives have been destroyed by them.

Sorry for butting in, esp. with walls of text. I enjoy this thread and have used it to navigate the flotsam-strewn swamps of modern horror movies (I doubt I would've looked into Magic Magic without having read about it here, for instance). It's also fun to see how my impressions match up against those of the other posters. Anyway, Demons of the Modern World was something I found at my local library and did not want to return. Pretty fascinating. I couldn't help but think about it while watching The Children, actually. The idea that our children can represent this horrifying "other" world, or maybe act as emissaries from it, thanks to our own vaguely supernatural outlooks as one time children ourselves, outlooks we've spent years shoveling over, is one that has stuck with me ever since reading it. You can probably find it cheap somewhere.

tongues flowering (Devilock), Sunday, 19 October 2014 03:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

I watched NZ comedy/horror Housebound tonight, funny as fuck in places but not as good as People Under The Stairs, which it rips.

xelab, Monday, 20 October 2014 00:42 (6 days ago) Permalink

The Taking Of Deborah Logan is on US Netflix at the moment, despite a supposed 2015 release date, and is much better than you'd expect from a low-budget direct to VOD title.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 12:13 (4 days ago) Permalink


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