Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

yeah, that site is vu trainspotter heaven.

http://www.nypl.org/research/chss/pep/pepdesc.cfm?id=6084

a panel/talk...or something else?

25-minute "What Goes On" jam w/ Fricke on vocals? Where's Cale? (glad they're including Doug in this stuff, though! YULE RULES)

lol at "the Beatles of New York"

this is so weird.
I just compiled a bibliography of VU stuff available at libraries in my town for my reference class.
Now they are playing at the new york public library.

yeah, must be a panel. I really can't imagine them playing. I \mean, without Sterling.

maybe they'll do some stuff off of "Squeeze."

so going back to that "Retinal Circus" bootleg mentioned upthread -- it is definitely the uncut show from whence a great deal of the Live 1969 LP was drawn. So it's not new performances, but holy shit, it is like the best concert ever. it's weird though -- I wonder where it's actually recorded. In the Unterberger book, he attributes that stuff to the Matrix in SF. WILL WE EVER KNOW.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/459752039_ce58511f09.jpg

yeah iirc Live 1969 is part from the Matrix and part from Dallas (which is available as a whole and in better sound quality on the boot "End Of Cole Ave").

yeah, i was just wondering if the Retinal Circus tapes were actually from somewhere else. I guess they don't really sound like the Matrix Tapes sampler or the Matrix stuff on the Quine Tapes. Like, the audience is too enthusiastic! But I'm just bullshitting here.

I'll be picking up that singles box tomorrow from the postie!

Will report back tomorrow.

― Mark G, Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:13 PM (4 weeks ago)

xpost: did the posties off Mark G? i do'nt doubt that singles box sounds sublime. i keep looking at it every time i go to amoeba...

yeah! how is that?

i dunno if i ~need~ it, but it wants me to pray to its grooves.

http://www.dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/VULG_thumb.jpg
I like the way it looks ... That pic is the cover of the Kugelberg book, too. Look how Nico is grinning! Funny.

or i guess it's just the same session
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517o3N-4qLL.jpg

hey tyler I think 1969 Live is a different show than the Matrix. oh hell, gimme a second on the internet...

yeah, Quine Tapes has stuff from a buncha different November dates and also December, not just the Matrix but also the Family Dog and St. Louis.

for the breakdown on 1969 see here:

http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/discog/lps/usa/lpsusa.html

in 1st sentence there "Matrix" = "Quine Tapes"

Hiya.

Yeah, the singles box is a lovely thing.

I did have "All Tomorrows Parties" a while back, sold on ebay, for about twice the price of the box.

Then I went on and got the Pere Ubu singles box to keep it company, £15 or thereabouts.

http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/discog/lps/usa/vulpus_v-5008_backcoverstickered.jpg

This is very much like mine. (Peelable banana on the other side)

but what about the supposed alternate mix of "I Heard Her Call My Name"?!?!?

ysi?

ooh, yes puh-lease

+1 oh hai

confirmed, it's a "talk".

These days for Lou it amounts to the same thing.

Did you trainspotters see this? http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=333 I've actually never heard any 1993 stuff except the official release, so I'm kinda curious.

ordered the Unterberger and Kugelberg books from Amazon last nite. So psyched.

Was hoping NYPL event was going to be about invading skating rink with loud amps and intrusive microphones.

I have mixed feelings about the Unterberger book. I guess it's where you go if you want to know what they ate for breakfast on the third Tuesday of the month, and it is full of weird and sometimes fascinating little bits of trivia.

That said, it has the overall effect (at least for me) of making the Velvet Underground seem kind of boring. And he has this major fixation on the Live 1969 album, which has never been my favorite thing of theirs...

The Unterberger book is a bludgeoning thing, but I can't fault his love for the live album, which is easily my favorite official album release of theirs now.

but what about the supposed alternate mix of "I Heard Her Call My Name"?!?!?

I compared this with my original Verve mono, and it's a more 'fuzzy' mix, and the lead guitar may even be mixed slightly down.

Yeah, definitely can't fault Unterberger for praising Live 1969 -- it is the best live album ever imo. As for making the VU seem boring, I kinda like that about the book. There's definitely a de-mystification of the band -- it's fun seeing how a semi-popular group in the late 60s went about their day-to-day existence. But maybe that's just me. I'm just now getting to the end of it. It must've been horrible for Lou to put out his first solo album and have all the reviews say "man, the VU were so good, I wish this was a VU album"! After being generally ignored for the lifespan of the band, that would suck.

On-the-money review by David Keenan in last month's Wire of both books, effectively skewering the received wisdom that the VU were like a monochrome alternative to late 60s hippydom.

Time machine, anyone?
http://23.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krdkn9t3mi1qa5w86o1_500.jpg

so far these books are GREAT. The Reed/Tucker intvw in NY ART is odd and wonderful though too short. And those photos!!

yeah I think I'm going to have to get it. Was trying to convince myself I didn't need a VU coffee table book, but I do, I do!

$30 and change @ Amazon.

On-the-money review by David Keenan in last month's Wire of both books, effectively skewering the received wisdom that the VU were like a monochrome alternative to late 60s hippydom.

http://z.about.com/d/classicrock/1/7/I/9/velvetundergroundc.jpg

... none more monchrome

http://lineout.thestranger.com/files/2006/12/velvet-underground.jpg

xp exactly, that pic illustrates Keenan's point perfectly.

hey it was the VU at the Zoo, whaddaya want? That's usually what I look like when I go to the Zoo.

Going to see the rock 'n' roll animals I suppose

They may have gotten all bright n' paisley by '69 but they were certainly no fans of hippies or West Coast rock of the time.

i think mainly they weren't Bill Graham fans. Reed loved "Eight Miles High" and Sterling Morrison loved Quicksilver Messenger Service. Can't get more West Coast rock than that!

http://media.nypl.org/audio/live_2009_12_08_velvet_underground.mp3
^^^ audio from this week's NYPL VU talk ... Haven't listened yet ...

This was a fun listen though D. Fricke is a bit of a Phil Schaap-y creepy fanboy

What other tune is "Ride Into The Sun" reminiscent of? I think it's classical but can't place it. Help!

I'm listening to it on the Another View compilation, btw, if you want to dig it out & listen.

dunno what it's reminiscent of ... but it is lovely, isn't it?

This was a fun listen though D. Fricke is a bit of a Phil Schaap-y creepy fanboy
He would fit in perfectly on this thread! David, are you out there?