Hip-Hop: The Low Point

haha yeah i totally remember that drummer being a beast

I can't forget it
Why you did it
I won't permit it
And won't acquit it
I want to fight you
I'll fucking bite you
Can't stand nobody like you
You can't run
You can't hide
No surprise
Close your eyes
Come with me, yeah

this thread is crazy

speaking of crazy...i really loved it when gnarls barkley really took hip hop to a new, more intelligent level....great album

and no one thought to mention Ca$h Money or No Limit records? I mean "'bout it, 'bout it", "bling, bling"....some of the most cringe worthy stuff on commercial radio in the past ten years. Each label had it's exceptions, but mostly the songs they put out were vomitrocious.

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it's always great when rap music incorporates other influences so that they manage to transcend the genre.

Geir?

That you, buddy?

nabisco i saw you interviewing robyn on pitchfork tv, and what struck me was that for the last 2 minutes she basically turned into geir hongro...did you notice this too or am i too quick to leap on scandinavians blathering about melody

I used to love "Pushin Weight" by Ice Cube when it came out!! that song and video was hilarious,

also, this is weird:

It's Top Genre worldwide, sure

british dude? or what...

i've never liked hip-hop

four-ish words:

N. 2. GETHER. NOW.

The real answer is, and always be, despite the highlights, mid-1985.

It was the era where the industry gave up on it being more than a "fad" after the breakdancing movies either failed to r.o.i., or failed to get made altogether (Cry of the City), but right before Russell Simmons signed his CBS M&D deal and made Krush Groove...therefore, a host of novelty records filled the gap acting as johnny come latelies.

Or, you're old like me, and haven't cared for hip-hop since the mid-to-late 90s.

Whichever.

Haha, this thread is amazing... In 2001 the lowest points of hip-hop included 2Pac, Biggie, Jay-Z, "Crossroads", and gangsta rap. Has the ILM consensus really changed that much in 7 years, or have most of the 2001 posters simply left the board?

Oh yeah, and Digital Underground too. I can see some validity of criticizing 2Pac, Biggie or Jay-Z, but how can anyone think DU suck?

You have to remember it was Dave Q who said that.

also freak like me and missy. such a weird thread.

The alleged "golden age" of ILM.

Hip-Hop: The Lol Point

no way, this has some of the sickest drumming ever. just looked for it on youtube but it gotten taken down ;_;

― Jordan, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yeah i totally remember that drummer being a beast

― some dude, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am 90% sure that drummer is mario winans

make that 100%: Soon after, Winans teamed up with P. Diddy and his Bad Boy roster. His first work with Bad Boy was playing drums on "Come With Me" in 1998 by Diddy and Jimmy Page, based on the classic Led Zeppelin song "Kashmir" from their 1975 album Physical Graffiti.

wow, that is crazy

here's the video: http://www.imeem.com/camphorhall/video/4o-IqpBJ/puff_daddy_feat_mario_winans_and_jimmy_page_come_with_me_mu/

4:00 - 4:30, mario winans u bad

(actually it's not quite as crazy as i remember it but still)

lol I like how I made a complete 180 on Missy

can't fathom ever having hated on Missy - she was awesome from the first single

I really hated the first single, was lukewarm on the second and really loved the third. At the time, I was still very much in "if it's not A Tribe Called Quest, it's CRAP!"-mode.

hahahaha lolz awesome

it was really the video that sold me on it - I think when I first heard it I had come across the Graham Central Station version a few weeks prior and was sorta nonplussed by her minimal take on it. but the video... I was like "oh yes FINALLY a weird arty female success story for hip hop - more plz"

By the third video I was hooked on her visual style but most of the time, as I stated above, I really wanted her to sing instead of rap. It really wasn't until "She's A Bitch" that I started appreciating her rhyming.

i remember just getting worn out with get ur freak on, but she really has been consistently great

yeah that one got a bit overexposed

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Jah Rule

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned either rap songs that contain the word "low" in the title, or rappers that have the word "Lo" as part of their name.

baby girl you telling lies
cuz when i look you in yo face i cna see im on yo mind
and it dont matter when them hoez may say i know your love is blind
for me, every bitch needs a thug nigger in their life
could it be you enjoy me fucking you, while you be loving me
trick and destroy us mentally
thats why they freak wit me frequently
love is life (?)
[...]
being nokio's a bit much
i got bitches in the states that love ta suck
i got bitches overseas that love to fuck
what the fuck yall want from me?
ghetto celebrity from b'more
murderer do-or-die from N-Y
and everbody's here right
N-O-K-I-O, baby, R to the U-L-E, baby
know a lot of yall bitches hate me cuz you cant relate to me
what the fuck you want from me?
let them hoes know not a thing
ice they wrists neck ear and ring
you are everything

from what i remember of a ja rule song on sisqo's CD. lol @ my memory from being 12

I want to change my answer and say the low point of hip-hop / rap is the fact that Missy Elliot exists.

― Ally

Missy Elliot just needs to sing. She's great when she sings and HOOOOOOOORIBLE when she speaks (I refuse to call that rapping).

― Dan Perry

would have been a better revive if you'd left the date stamps on

2001.

those new "classic hip-hop" radio stations play "get ur freak on" SO MUCH and i'm already sick of it, it's like the hotel california of rap