Monty Python's Flying Circus - Classic or Dud?

I guess i AM asking for a mellow, contented John Cleese. And I guess that is a bit silly.

it's a fine world we live in when john cleese can't find happiness but jerry seinfeld only ever seems to be fucking grinning at me.

xp yeah, i just don't think i've ever seen anything to suggest cleese has that 'setting'

Maybe Michael Palin could help him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiBWHHqK7W8

He has a video about cheese, too.

(Although it seems the a youtube search for "John Cleese cheese" only turns up the obvious.)

you guys must get in touch w/ him and tell him what a breeze it is to make a million a year in Hollywood at 70.

he has to make it in hollywood? that's a strange stipulation to throw on to a divorce settlement.

I have not seen the man's bank balance, but I would be surprised if he didn't have a million a year to spare for a good while. Judges can be bastards, but they don't tell people to pay their exes a million a year unless they have many, many millions.

no, it has to be new money he earned that year in hollywood i think.

That does seem to be his side of the story.

anyway, if the judgement enraged him with its unfairness then hurrah cos that's when he's at his best. we should break all his windows and put a potato in his exhaust pipe imo.

eagerly awaiting the divorce-induced Zach Braff remake of Fawlty Towers

(Although it seems the a youtube search for "John Cleese cheese" only turns up the obvious)

heh heh...what, the "cheese shop" sketch or the fact that his grandfather's surname was originally "Cheese"?

(Oh wait, YOUTUBE search not google...never mind.)

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/a-night-of-round-table-with-monty-python/

Responding to a question about how to tell which Pythons wrote which sketches, Mr. Cleese said that his work with Mr. Chapman was fairly clean and “finished short,” while Mr. Palin and Mr. Jones’s skits were “prolonged,” and Mr. Idle’s were “highly verbal” and “disappeared up their own funnel.” (Mr. Palin said his material could be recognized because it produced laughter.)

Other exchanges were downright bizarre, even by Python standards. Mr. Cleese read a card that asked, “What about that very funny thing that happened at Auschwitz?” This yielded an anecdote about the troupe’s visit to Germany when they traveled a concentration camp — recollections differed as to which one — only to discover that it was closed to visitors. Mr. Chapman suggested they say that they were Jewish, but the group was still denied entry.

The format also yielded a couple of authentically touching moments. Mr. Gilliam read a question submitted by 10-year-old Talia Lindner, asking if she could perform her version of the Spanish Inquisition skit for the Pythons. Mr. Gilliam accepted, and up to the front of the theater strode little Talia, in glasses and blue jeans. After a deep breath or five, she rapidly performed all the characters in the scene in just under a minute (“I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition”; “Hold on, I’ll come in again”), drawing roars of laughter from the troupe followed by enthusiastic handshakes.

I'd heard that Auschwitz story before, forget where...

Haha visualizing that ten year old girl has me chuckling out loud

nytimes:

Chapman suggested they say that they were Jewish, but the group was still denied entry.

wired:

"Graham (Chapman) said, 'Tell them we’re Jewish,' he recalled, to a now completely inconsolable audience. 'They let us in.'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWN9fwmOKM

I remember being thirteen or so and seeing that on PBS...I had no idea wtf was happening. "When will they start speaking English?"

i only recently found out about German Python. Palin's and Cleese's German are actually quite good as far as i can tell.

This has been out on DVD for ages here. First ep is all German, second is all English. Fascinating stuff.

Oh god, a guy I was dating broght over the german python dvd once, back in 2002. I got rabidly drunk while watching it and so dont recall most of it.

Chapman would have approved

Heh :D

This has been out on DVD for ages here

it's been out on VHS here for longer

Huh.

But on another note.

Eric Idle is basically like "can my part in this be me singing while fucking a large pile of money? no? then piss off"

When did Gilliam turn into Orson Welles?!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/06/27/arts/JPPYTHON3/JPPYTHON3-articleInline.jpg

No, no, no. He is clearly Sigmund Freud.

Excellent! I like the story about how he recorded this in one night at Nilsson's place. The usual schtick about that group of party fiends (Lennon, Moon, Nilsson, Ringo, Chapman etc) being on a years-long career-killing bender often overlooks some pretty creative stuff.

I would rather see a docfilm about the LoBrian contretemps.

Comedian Steve Punt will star as Eric Idle

especially for rhyming verses

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/aug/13/monty-python-life-brian-bbc

Steve Punt has always reminded me a bit of Eric Idle.

um

would love to see the full-length version of cleese and palin's face-off with muggeridge one day. have only seen clips in docs, and it seems a corker.

getting repeated next month iirc? spods have compiled 45 minutes of it from all the excerpts in various docos over the years but this may be its first ever actual full rebroadcast

there's no "face-off" to speak of tho. muggeridge is an utter tool and the increasingly hurt and pissed-off cleese and palin just zing the senile old twat into oblivion.

awesome news. that's kind of what i'm after tbh nv.

"...We thought about doing jokes about Jesus. Trying to book a table for 12 for the last supper. 'I can do you three 4s. Or you can come in tomorrow night?' 'No, it's got to be tonight'..."

"jesus h christ: lust for glory"

"not a funny building" tbh

Palin in partic claims to have been completely surprised by the vitriol directed at the movie. And tho I think they were being a little disingenuous when they said that they weren't laughing at Christianity, it should be pretty obvious to the feeblest feeb that the man-made fuckery of religious bureaucracy is the real target. Muggeridge, like a lot of late-convert Catholics, doesn't realise something that the church had sussed many years earlier: the best way to deflect satire is to pretend that the work is deeply religious at heart. (Obv it ain't)

Jones said at the end of the one of those clip show thingys - "It was't blasphemous, it was heretical..."

Rather more than a clip show thingy actually. This was on the Beeb a couple of years ago.
http://youtu.be/eC5rhnuMPz8

Great clip.

The new movie then:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/27/monty-python-film-reunion-absolutely-anything

Terry Gilliam cast doubt on whether a reunion would ever be successfully achieved. "We all have our own careers now … the BBC put us on 10 years ago, and it was an hour of mediocrity … the work wasn't what it should be."

He means that Monty Python Night thing hosted by Eddie Izzard, I presume. He's right, the new sketches in that were pretty mediocre.