Year-End Critics' Polls '07

i'm not exactly sure how a list like that could do wrong. most acclaimed rap/r&b songs of the year + most popular rap/r&b songs of the year + a few "curveballs". anyone who follows rap is gonna like like 70-75% of that list probably. it's the placement that's a little suspect at best.

yeah Rev, "indifferent" is probably a more accurate representation of my feelings about it as well

9. Rich Boy, “Throw Some D’s” (Zone 4/Interscope)
7. J. Holiday, “Bed” (Music Line/Capitol)

13. UGK ft. OutKast, “Int’l Players Anthem (I Choose You)” (Jive)
12. R. Kelly ft. T.I. & T-Pain, “I’m a Flirt (Remix)” (Jive)
9. Rich Boy, “Throw Some D’s” (Zone 4/Interscope)
7. J. Holiday, “Bed” (Music Line/Capitol)

there's a lot of '06 hits on that list (Throw Some D's, You, Ice Box, Lost Without U), but they're a print mag and probably had to make those lists in early November so I guess they gotta play catch up.

I dunno. I didn't hear "Throw Some D's" until it was too late to make my Stylus list and will be including it on my Idolator ballot this year and I'm pretty sure I didn't hear "You" until later. Fwiw, all those songs peaked on the Hot 100 this year.

"You" peaked Feb. 17th. (Seems like it should have been much later than that.) "Icebox" peaked March 10th. "Throw Some D's" and "Lost Without U" peaked March 31st.

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I forgot about "You" and "Throw Some D's"

Some more contenders for the number ten slot on my Idolator ballot (currently occupied by "Way I Are")

eh, songs are typically out for at least 2-3 months before their chart peaks, and all those were on my 06 singles list (except "Ice Box," which I don't like) this time last year.

Why am I even arguing this? I'm going to vote for a song that came out in 2005 and three or four from last year. I figure as long as I associate them with this year, that's good enough.

were they songs that placed in those years' polls? not to be all "you're throwing your vote away" but that seems kinda pointless to me, unless you really can't think of enough songs from this year that you liked.

Did people vote for "With Every Heartbeat" last year? I gave it an honorable mention.

No they weren't. And I imagine (except for the one I'll likely be the only one to vote for, a bit obscure) that they'll do better this year than past years they were eligible. All of them reached their peak of popularity this year, in any case.

2 votes last year for "With Every Heartbeat" I imagine it will place quite highly.

ah, yeah, that kind of thing makes sense. I usually don't do that, but sometimes I make an exception if it's a song like "Since U Been Gone" (which was in my top 20 the year barely anyone listed it, and then top 3 the next year when everyone else listed it).

And I can think of enough songs from this year that I love to agonize over cutting songs I consider perfect from my list. I just consider these songs of 2007 whether they were technically released this year or not.

I didn't hear any of the songs I'll be voting for before mid-December, fwiw.

i'm with alex on this one. i wanna vote for studio's yearbook 1 but since west coast came out this year i figure more people will vote for that so that's what i'm going to go with. likewise i'm voting big doe rehab this year even though i'm a bit tentative about it's slotting since i'll only have had it for about 2 weeks when the idolator deadline comes around.

I just consider these songs of 2007 whether they were technically released this year or not/

i think this is dumb, but this is a ridiculous argument nonetheless.

Why is it dumb? As I said, all of them peaked in popularity this year and I only heard one of them like two weeks before the end of the year, too late to make the eoy list I submitted for Stylus and the rest not until this year.

It is a ridiculous argument, but I'm not sure why there has to be some hard and fast deadline. Why nitpick?

i guess if they came out at the end of the year after deadlines were due it makes sense if you can anticipate that everyone who would vote for the song is going to do it in the next year. like are there going to be a lot of ppl voting for "throw some d's" this year? i think f3nn3ss3y was the only person who voted for it in p&j last year.

The P&J ballots are all messed up, so it's difficult to check. It got 3 votes in JP.

songs that broke this year but aren't from this year are eligible, FWIW. take "Rehab"--got some UK votes last year, will likely get non-UK votes this year. perfectly OK.

ditto the songs the Rev mentions

Someone told me that Nelson George had to get a whole crew of bodyguards after he voted for a Kelis album two years straight.

vibe list is weird as fuck

I just consider these songs of 2007 whether they were technically released this year or not/

i think this is dumb

No, it's smart. And it's been an explicit Pazz & Jop (and now Idolator poll) rule for years -- singles and albums not technically released in a given year are eligible if they made more impact with voters in the current year. It makes perfect sense, since not all voters hear every song on the exact release date, obviously, and since (for instance) songs hit on different radio formats at different times -- they don't all get released then die the next month. So, if they do well, they carry over votes from the previous year. Being anal about release dates is what's dumb. (I'm voting for "You" this year myself.)

That makes sense xhuxk. It also gets rid of my confusion as to why "Boys and Girls in America" is showing up on some lists this year.

It also probably only saw a UK release this year?

Yeah I think it was mainly British/Euro publications that put it on 07 lists.

Yeah, I can't find any information on what the UK release date was, but I'm sure you're both right.

Haha I am going to vote for an album that never actually came out in 06 when it was supposed to and will never see the light of day.

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Haha, I have been wondering all year whether I should include "Icebox" on my 2007 list and justifying doing so by the fact that it peaked in March. But I don't think I will, just because it had its biggest impact ON ME in late 2006.

take "Rehab"--got some UK votes last year, will likely get non-UK votes this year. perfectly OK.

Similarly, take "Young Folks"--got some indie votes last year, will likely get non-indie votes this year.

not a critics poll or even all that interesting but anyway

ITUNES BEST-SELLING ALBUMS OF 2007

1. Maroon 5 It Won't Be Soon Before Long
2. Amy Winehouse Back To Black
3. Kanye West Graduation
4. Daughtry Daughtry
5. Colbie Caillat Coco
6. Linkin Park Minutes to Midnight
7. Various Artists High School Musical 2 (Original Soundtrack)
8. Timbaland Shock Value
9. John Mayer Continuum
10. Various Artists Hairspray (Soundtrack to the Motion Picture)

ITUNES BEST-SELLING SONGS OF 2007

1. Fergie "Big Girls Don't Cry (Personal)"
2. Gwen Stefani "The Sweet Escape"
3. Plain White T's "Hey There Delilah"
4. Avril Lavigne "Girlfriend"
5. Fergie "Glamorous"
6. Kanye West "Stronger"
7. Maroon 5 "Makes Me Wonder"
8. Akon "Don't Matter"
9. Timbaland "The Way I Are (feat. Keri Hilson & D.O.E.)
10. Shop Boyz "Party Like a Rock Star"

Did people vote for "With Every Heartbeat" last year? I gave it an honorable mention.

Me!

Is this the first time ever NME have done a TOP 100 Writer's Poll for a Year?

More choices for the NME = more rubbish to laugh at?

http://upload.imgspot.com/u/07/344/13/NMETop100.php.jpg

Who will publish this list on the web first? probably at Acclaimed Music?

http://www.nme.com/images/84_aoymagbits_01.jpg

Why "Albums Tracks" instead of "Album Tracks"? The way they wrote it doesn't make sense. (Though England is also the land of "Records Stores," right? They are so wacky over there.)

i think it means albums/tracks

I think it's just a sloppy copy editor that forgot & between Albums - Tracks - thinking separate lines was OK with the the NME youth

REISSUES AND ARCHIVE
1. Miles Davis, The Complete On the Corner Sessions (Columbia)
2. Andrew Hill, Compulsion!!! (Blue Note)
3. Bennie Maupin, The Jewel in the Lotus (ECM)
4. Joe Harriott, Free Form (Gott)
5. v/a, Mike Taylor Remembered (Dusk Fire)
6. Noah Howard, The Black Ark (Bo' Weavil)
7. Charles Mingus Sextet with Eric Dolphy, Cornell 64 (Blue Note)
8. John Handy, Recorded Live at the Monterey Jazz Festival (Jazz Beat)
9. Max Roach, We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (Candid)
TIE Duke Ellington, The Duke Box (Storyville)

jazz lists won't get much outrage but daaaaamn son, no Mingus - Cornell 64 on the reissues? that's cold homie.

can't read he1ges0n? that's cold homie!

Or they hope to publish a singles one this week and a albums one the next week to get 2 bumper sellers and the xmas special?
And wrap it in cellophane so no one knows until they get home!
It's the only NME I ever buy so they better not do that!

an 007 metal overview, if anyone wants one, by one of the best music writers right now

http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/293_200712-year-in-metal.html

Remaining lists and their top 5 last year:

NME - Arctic Monkeys, YYYs, Muse, Hot Chip, CSS
Spin - TVOTR, Gnarls Barkley, Arctic Monkeys, Ghostface Killah, My Chemical Romance
Rolling Stone - Dylan, RHCP, Sonic Youth, TVOTR, Ghostface
MusicOMH - Arctic Monkeys, Howling Bells, Muse, Campbell/Lanegan, Hot Chip
Prefix - Clipse, TVOTR, Herbert, Liars, Newsom
Playlouder - Jarvis, Cat Power, CSS, Flaming Lips, Lily Allen
Pop Matters - Gnarls Barkley, Hold Steady, Arctic Monkeys, Ghostface, The Ark
Cokemachineglow - Subtle, Clipse, Califone, Case, Sunset Rubdown
Delusions of Adequacy - Acid Mothers Temple, Sonic Youth, Kayo Dot, Long Winters, Band of Horses
Dusted - Walker, Concretes, Dilla, Newsom, Burial
Onion - Hold Steady, TVOTR, Midlake, Jenny Lewis, Belle & Seb
Mixmag - Hot Chip, Nathan Fake, Allen, Plan B, Burial
Pitchfork - Knife, TVOTR, Newsom, Ghostface, Hold Steady
The Wire - Burial, Walker, Newsom, Carla Bozulich, Wolf Eyes

What year is this?

2001 and everyone's waiting for the next Roses/Oasis/Mondays to come along.