Kevin Costner's Russian's Rusty: Washington DC Metropolitan Area Thread II

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as i recall cdepot IS a wonderland.

i'm feeling a lot of enthusiasm for this bleakness.

black cat dance nights are best entered into with good friends, a great amount of alcohol and a minimum of self consciousness. i don't know that anything in DC is a hipster/single person's paradise. i don't know that anything in DC is EITHER a hipster's paradise OR a single person's paradise.

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

you moved to NYC, right? are you pleased with your choice?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i am. it was time for a change, though this thread is making me nostalgic for dc. as far as cities go, i like nyc better, though i've been told it's not a good idea to try to compare the two. dc felt a lot more knowable, which is probably why i like this thread, whereas nyc is a little difficult to come to terms with a lot of the time.

this is the first time in a long time that i'm not coexisting in both cities, which might be another reason i'm gravitating towards this thread.

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd ask you how dc is for you, mookieproof, but i think that's the general question of the thread!

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, everybody. we're having a FACD (that's fancy-a-cider-donut). i propose next weekend (halloweekend) or the weekend after. here are two potential sites. ill start a thread about this, right now i just wanna plumb for interest.

Marker-Miller Orchards
3035 Cedar Creek Grade, Winchester, VA
540-662-1391 • www.markermillerorchards.com
• Activities: Pick your own apples and pumpkins on weekends. Scenic wagon rides on weekends. Picnic areas available. Also available: 10-15 varieties of apples, Barllett pears, plums, pumpkins, Indian corn, winter squash, gourds, mums, apple cider, fresh baked pies, muffins, apple cakes, apple cider donuts, breads and jams & jellies. Apple Harvest Festival: October 8th (9:00-5:00) and 9th (10:00-5:00)
Everything apples!!!!!!!!!!! 20 varieties of apples to choose from, with pick your own available. Apple cobbler and apple caramel sundaes can be enjoyed while sitting on the front porch or listening to the music each day from 2-4 P.M. For the kids we have the barrel train, antique tractors, an apple pitch and room to run. Hot dogs and country ham sandwiches available for lunch. Wagon rides around the farm scheduled for every 1/2 hour. No admission fee.
Pumpkin Festival: October 22nd (9:00-5:00)
Come find the “great pumpkin.” Choose from ones already picked or pick your own. Enjoy pumpkin pie and hot apple cider as you browse around. Also offering hot dogs, country ham sandwiches, and homemade soup.

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The cider doughnuts at Cherry Hill Farm & Orchard in Clinton (301-292-4642) have such an avid following that you may want to order a dozen in advance or arrive early—the farm opens at 8 during the week and at 7 on weekends. Latecomers have to make do with plain doughnuts, but they’re great, too. Cherry Hill also makes soft-serve ice cream in flavors like apple pie and occasionally pumpkin.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

have i really existed for this long, celebrated halloween and autumn so fervently, and never HEARD of cider donuts??

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i know - me too! have you read the thread, though? they sound incredible!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Winchester, I pick Winchester and also I require a ride. I DEMAND SATISFACTION. Or apples! Either way!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

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DC hipster paradise: Spilt Milk at Red, the last of which was a couple Tuesdays ago. With Red gone, I heard it might be headed to Wonderland.

Black Cat upstairs DJ nights (Mousetrap, Depeche Mode Dance Party, etc.) are much larger and a little less friendly than the downstairs DJ nights (Right Round, BLISS, bluestate, Guilty Pleasures). BLISS is my favorite of the bunch and it happens to be this Saturday. I also guest DJ there sometimes, so take that with a grain of salt. The worst thing about Black Cat backstage DJ nights (aside from the crappy sound) is that they shut down at 2am instead of 3.

new(ish) places:

I really like W Domku, a Scandinavian/Baltic restaurant/bar in Petworth. Housemade aquavits, a very comfortable atmosphere, and a staff with a personality surplus.

A few blocks south of Domku on Georgia Avenue, Temperance Hall will be opening soon. It'll be a restaurant/bar in the ever-expanding Joe Engelert empire, but I've got high hopes anyway.

Vegetate is open or opening soon on 9th st, featuring an awful name and all vegetarian menu. It's part-owned by DJ Dredd, so the music should be good.

I'll soon be trekking up to the new Dogfish Head non-brewpub in Gaithersburg. Hope it's worth the journey, too bad they're not brewing on site.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

These cider donuts sound intriguing. What are they? And do they have them in cities?

Around U St fashion crimes outnumber violent crimes 3 to 1 these days. There's been a run of small-business stickups on 14th the past few weeks, though, one of which I think was Candida's bookstore, goddamit. If you've got to jack a business, in the future please make it Whole Foods.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Carly-

Living in DC for about a year (Clarenden/NOVA and now College Park), I unfortunately see what you're saying regarding DC not being good for singles (at least singles without much power to weild) or hispter-boho-audiophile types. After college, I actually started out in New York (Brooklyn, east Williamsburg off the Flushing Ave J train stop) but couldn't find any good work, so five months removed from graduation I headed to DC. I am now ready and willing to move back to New York. Suffice it to say, despite all sayings regarding the grass always being greener on the other side, DC just doesn't seem too welcoming.

Maybe it IS impossible to compare New York to DC, but I just get the feeling that although both are smug and competitive, in NY I often feel that I'm struggling with other people, whereas in DC I feel like I'm struggling against everyone.

Scott H, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

you sound like you could use a cider donut!

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Donuts are overrated, and so is Virginia

Scott H, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I read that as "VAGINA" and I was like whoa dude.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone rate virginia?

if i could go to a pumpkin patch in the near future, i really would.

xp haha

carly (carly), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Also Clarendon/Rosslyn/NOVA is possibly the most evilest place I've ever lived! I will maintain this til I die. Suburbs of Phoenix have more character. I never thought I'd live to see the day where I am like, "Gee, I wish I still lived in LINCOLN PARK, NJ" but that day has occurred, like two weeks ago.

I've been trying to occupy myself with drinking heavily! I recommend that, to everyone. I do not care for the Black Cat v. much. Downstairs is much better than upstairs in virtually every situation except maybe NYE. Though I've noticed less the hipster quotient and more the huge goth quotient upstairs.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not really getting ILX's current cider donut frenzy. I have had many in my time and while they are good--I mean shit, what's not to like about a donut, right?--I'm not sure they can live up to this level of hype!

My coworkers sometimes joke about my issues with crossing South over the damn Potomac. My boss went so far as to deliberately set up meeting in RESTON and forced me to attend. Reston needs to justify its existence, as far as I'm concerned.


quincie, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Please, please, let's just pretend it doesn't.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i prefer VA to MD. but i've never lived in MD and when i lived in arlington it was pre-clarendon development. reston is pretty wrong.

futurebride and i are considering haphazardly moving to NYC. i don't think this thread is gonna talk us out of it.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't help but remind everyone that Reston was the site of an ebola outbreak! Reston be full of hemorrhaging monkeys!

Hey mookieproof is did your futurebride go to DUCK, too? Are you going to spawn a new generation of DUCKIES?

Note that I checked out the UNC roster the other day and, uh, WTF--is NO ONE LEFT from last year??? Arrrrgh, another season of frustration. . . and K going global, good god.

quincie, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, futurebride is from NY. she has the good sense to prefer darker shades of blue, though.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't even imagine how horrible Arlington must've been pre-development??? I mean there's no signs whatsoever that there was anything here pre-development.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

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Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, it was better. fewer cookie-cutter condos, more dive bars. there was an auto-body place in virginia square called motörhead.

ballston has always been ballston, though, as far as i know.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

That last one again: 1942

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember seeing a Metro 25-year anniversary photo that showed the Pentagon City metro entrance in 1976 - with an open field behind it.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

AZ, bite your tongue. My dad grew up in Arlington and it was a proud slice of Americana.

I will totally go cider-apple picking!

library girl, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

is 'a proud slice of americana' a good thing? maybe back then...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Now it's a proud slice of Booz Allen Hamilton

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The identical rowhomes that have replaced whatever was on the other side of our street do freak me out, I will admit. I mean how do you even tell which one is your house? Paint the door a different color, I guess? They do that on Ode St.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

just imagine if you were living in the MIDDLE of the country

oh, nevermind, it'd probably be pretty much the same only flatter

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing is, it's like...ok yeah cookie cutter condos and chain establishments...I'm not really a big stickler against these things, I mean I lived on the UWS of Manhattan for a good six years, and I mean that basically serves as the world's largest conglomeration of Pottery Barn and Starbucks joints. But I mean there were still other things there, like tons of restaurants, groceries, bodegas, bars, signs of life after 9.30pm...I mean it's just bizarro the way this joint is set up. I mean if the Safeway is closed you're like fucked for life.

I think it would be better to live in the city proper. It is just kind of like...ok the best I can do to describe NOVA is like living in suburban Long Island or Jersey, except without ANY of the local flavor or tiny establishments because EVERYONE is a transient out of town 9-5 5 days a week. Whatever local color scene might've been here before the invasion of the Stepford Corporates, it's totally been demolished and replaced with a total void which is really disturbing in a lot of ways.

But hey whatever dood we booked yr suggestion wedding spot! Thx for tha tip!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

really? that's cool! when? (we are feb 18 do not overbid us!)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

No, no, we are...APRIL FOOLS DAY.

For serious!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

awesome! i got kind of drunk at the 3citron tasting last week!

i think you've booked JimmyMod, but in case not, this is the dude that's doing our photos for crazy cash: http://www.carlbower.com/

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

also EXPLAIN ME INVITATIONS PLEASE

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

roffles--I have yet to figure out invites myself. LOL PWNED.

I have to look into them this week. Can't you just do all that online these days anyway? That's what I'm hoping at least.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Save yourself some money, design the wedding invites yourself and peruse Target's selection of invites/paper. They *actually* have nice things. I swear. My wife and I did our own invites through the same method and got complimented by nearly all of our guests. It can be VERY expensive to have a company do 'em for you and the internet services look like dookie. That's how the Wedding Industrial Complex works.

ng-unit, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I was thinking of doing something like that actually, because virtually all of the invites I've liked have been $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (that's what you get reading wedding mags). And I'm like you can probably go to a party store or a stationary store and get blank things that look virtually the same and save money, except how do you go from there? Just on your own computer, print them up? Wouldn't they maybe get jacked in the printer? I keep imagining professionals have super printers that do not in any way resemble my $100 one.

I have a sad idea that will never come to fruition of going to a Chinese take out, getting 80 or 100 of their little rice boxes, and printing up "fortunes" that invite people to our wedding! But you cannot really put such a thing in the mail.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The "lucky numbers" for lotto are replaced with the address of the reception, etc...it's totally unwieldly now that I'm thinking about this.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

no, that's great! it can't be that hard--we just got an invitation that contained a refrigerator magnet.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I had access to a laser printer at work, so I took care of it there. I'm not sure how they'd look on a regular ol' inkjet - like you said, there's a chance they'd get stuck (the instructions on the paper generally specify what you should do). And a lot of the stuff you'll find is on laminate or card stock, so that's something to be aware of.

Take-out invitations is an awesome idea - I've seen a similar thing (with metallic colored mini-take out boxes) in wedding stores. But that's super, super clever.

ng-unit, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Which wedding site did you decide on?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a store in Georgetown on M St which is all stationery and paper and such, kinda pricey but.. well, some of it is super neat. I am thinking, it's not called the Paper Store is it? but it probably actually is. I have some design skillz, so if you know what you want your invitation to look like but could use a hand putting it together on the computer for print, let me know.

I just get the feeling that although both are smug and competitive, in NY I often feel that I'm struggling with other people, whereas in DC I feel like I'm struggling against everyone.

Yeah. I feel that way. I have a few very good friends in the area, but the few good friends are also friends with friends of friends, and the friends of friends tend to be fairly smug and competitive, which rubs off on the good friends, and suddenly I am lying to everyone about how I have all these ambitious plans when, in fact, I just want to be able to pay the bills and not stress. I think what bugs me the most is this vibe one can get from people, that if you're not so into the rat race and working 60 hours a week to chase the next big career goal, or maybe if whatever you've been chasing after doesn't fit their nice practical paradigm, there is something slightly pitiable about that. If only you could be as good as they are. And applying to law school.

Oh, and now I want a cider donut!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Go West, life is peaceful there
Go West, in the open air
Go West, where the skies are blue..

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dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm getting spammed every morning with career fair bullshit and recruiters telling me about great opportunities with SAIC & Northrup.
This one is practically a parody of itself I think:


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TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Scott H, I did what you did--I moved to NY (astoria) right after college, stayed there a while, and then moved down here and got a good job. Now I'm ready to move back, not just because Clarendon is lame, but because my DC friends rarely hang out with me anymore because I live in Virginia and they all live within a block of each other in dupont. Unfortunately I'm a gov't contractor and can't make the kind of money I'm making here anywhere else. Those bastards. Not that I'm doing anything so spectacular with the money, it's just nice to have stuff and go on trips sometimes.

Hey, Patrick Fitzgerald is in my building and there are cameras outside. They got a great shot of my lunchbox.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Mary: http://www.3citron.com/tregaron.html

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Cider donuts sound fantastic and I want one. I mean I want any kind of donut but I've never had a cider one and it sounds tasty.

And OK, there are plenty of "better than you" types here, whether they're corp. ladder-climbers or scenester scum, but are they really that hard to keep out of your life? I mean, there are just as many if not more (more, in my experience) nice, funny, cool people who aren't gonna pull that bullshit on you hanging around.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

In my experience those numbers are not even remotely equal, and because of that it's "few and far between" and then you kind of don't bother very much and keep within your own tiny circle. Aren't you in school though? That would help, universities are all equally assholes/ok people. No matter where!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link


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