OK The Echo web site says this:
Tuesday 10.13.09: Distressed Gentlefolk night with PAT FISH (acoustic) / MAX EIDER (acoustic) / DOWNY MILDEW / CLAY IDOLS / BLACK WATCH @ echo
but the Jazz Butcher web site says this:
Solo set from Pat Fish and Max Eider; Pat & Max duo set; Band set with Steve and Kevin.
can anyone from LA sort this out for me, we are considering going if it's the latter!
― sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, that was like the bestest, most awesomest birthday present ever. Plus bonus interjection/interdiction from David J.!
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 12 October 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty cool -- a photo I took last night is the new main photo on the official site:
http://jazzbutcher.com/images/20091011/nk8.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 October 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh man, more love for Butchie!! More more! I just listened to "The Gift Of Music" for the first time in yonks and goddamn if it isn't one fantastic pop chune after another.
"Does the elephant have any water? Think about the elephant and give him a drink."
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I was a bit snotty about this guy upthread, but "Southern Mark Smith", "Girlfriend", "Angels"... all lovely songs
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
This morning it's "In Bath Of Bacon", the debut album. Ramshackle, goofy, naive and full of musical jokes and references. Utterly charming. "Bigfoot reach for his credit card..."
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
And its better than a cold bath with someone you dislike
― doug watson, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ the line that hooked me on the Jazz Butcher for life, one of the few bands that inspires me to be a dedicated completist.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
search: the cassette-only cover of "Temptation Inside Your Heart"
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
Ha! I just downloaded that today!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/thejazzbutcher?utm_campaign=project4954
To mark the 30th anniversary of the Jazz Butcher Conspiracy, Max Eider and Pat Fish are planning to record a new album with producer Richard Formby. After years of wandering, confused, through the digital wreckage of the record business, we have alighted upon this brilliant model for getting our music to those who want it most. So here we are, appealing to you to help us front up the necessary for the recording and manufacturing of that album.The record will draw on the best of Pat’s compositions since the recording of Rotten Soul back in 2000. Unlike that album, it will be made in a proper studio with the best producer we know.By pledging here you secure your copy of the album. Think of it as a kind of long-term pre-ordering system. We also have some interesting exclusives to offer, from a signed lyric sheet to Pat’s Fender El Rio guitar. Check out what’s on offer in the sidebar.If we’re lucky enough to attract more than our target amount, we shall be making a donation to the Citizens’ Advice Bureau. Anything else will go towards the setting up of a celebratory thirtieth anniversary tour.If we fail to reach our target, everybody gets their money back and we’ll go back to playing cribbage and dribbling into our beer as we struggle to recall our exact whereabouts. But let’s not think about that, eh?Please give generously.
The record will draw on the best of Pat’s compositions since the recording of Rotten Soul back in 2000. Unlike that album, it will be made in a proper studio with the best producer we know.
By pledging here you secure your copy of the album. Think of it as a kind of long-term pre-ordering system. We also have some interesting exclusives to offer, from a signed lyric sheet to Pat’s Fender El Rio guitar. Check out what’s on offer in the sidebar.
If we’re lucky enough to attract more than our target amount, we shall be making a donation to the Citizens’ Advice Bureau. Anything else will go towards the setting up of a celebratory thirtieth anniversary tour.
If we fail to reach our target, everybody gets their money back and we’ll go back to playing cribbage and dribbling into our beer as we struggle to recall our exact whereabouts. But let’s not think about that, eh?
Please give generously.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
took under 7 hours to get funded
― zappi, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
Go Butchie go! I sure hope it's better than "Rotten Soul" which was, er, rotten, the only real dud in his catalog.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
That list of extras is amazing, would totally buy a house concert if I was in the UK. Excited for this!
― sleeve, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
so playing in duo form in NYC next month, i guess i should go
http://www.jazzbutcher.com/htdb/gigs
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 May 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
Max Eider has a new album, or perhaps a mini-album, "Duck Dance": http://maxeider.com/albums/79
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 30 November 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Oh, and the reunion album was quite disappointing. :-(
Bummer news that Mr Fish has been poorly, as they say. This isn’t for health care costs but for general expenses in the meantime:
https://www.gofundme.com/pat-fish-has-been-unwell?member=2250978
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link
aw jeez
(the jazz insects, active oxford area 1981-83, microfact fans) (discography = one undistributable single, 'elephants', on our "own label" = haha a big pile of like 987 unsold singles in satch's loft)
https://www.discogs.com/Jazz-Insects-Elephants-Ghost-Train/release/8589969
1 For Sale from $253.16
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T6kpcXHDd0&feature=share
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
(Max Eider's new quarantined version of "Drink")
And here's a treat, following on from the overall album boxes the last couple of years:
https://usa.firerecords.com/products/the-jazz-butcher-dr-cholmondley-repents-a-sides-b-sides-and-seasides
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 September 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
Sorry, should have also linked the Bandcamp page:
https://thejazzbutcher.bandcamp.com/album/dr-cholmondley-repents-a-sides-b-sides-and-seasides
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 September 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link
didn't wanna whine on his FB page but there are at least four crucial tracks missing from that set, which is really a bummer ("Temptation Inside Your Heart", "Chinese Envoy", "Christmas With The Pygmies", and the original version of "Caroline Wheeler's Birthday Present" that was the B-side of the "Marine" 7")
― sleeve, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
that being said, this is the most essential JB material IMHO
― sleeve, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link
Does this set cover the entirety of "Gift Of Music", "Big Questions" and "Bloody Nonsense"?
Definitely the best stuff. "Hard" is such a jam.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
yes it does!
― sleeve, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
aw FUCK
Very sad to announce that my old friend Pat Fish died suddenly but peacefully on Tuesday evening. Pat rocked my world in every way and his death leaves a big hole in my life and in my memory, much of which was only stored in his outsized brain. Goodbye mate and thanks for everything. I’m going to miss you. Max x
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
big sigh. the best kind of eccentric person and a hell of a songwriter. rest well.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
Truly a shame and a loss. Would have been lovely if he'd seen the rarity set fully out.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
Still so glad I saw him with Eider and the Haskins bros years back in LA.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link
gutted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ZyWxTIsrk
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
Found the key photo I took that night -- this was in 2009.
Found the photos I took from the show, with Max Eider and Mr. Fish here -- this photo ended up on the front of his website for a bit. A gentle honor to have taken it. RIP to Pat Fish of the Jazz Butcher, forever a hero. pic.twitter.com/qYFsurtu2K— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) October 6, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
Damn, that was unexpected news. I was a big Jazz Butcher fan in the mid-80s and still hold Sex and Travel as a personal fave. Had the pleasure of enjoying a beer and conversation with Pat prior to The JB playing in Gatineau PQ in... 1986? Hats off to him. His music made many of my later teenage days much more bearable.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link
Had heard he was dealing with cancer but didn't think it was terminal. :-(
He's one of the only artists I saw in Boston, New York and London. A tremendous experience every time.
I love his jokey stuff as much as the next Butchie fan but his serious side (eg "Racheland") doesn't get enough respect. "Condition Blue" is a deeply affecting album.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
"Vienna Song" prob my fave straight tearjerker, but yeah agreed
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
so sad. he was one of my absolute favorites.
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
R.I.P. This was always my fave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foCfMec9-9w
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link
Sad news. Haven't listened to him for a long long time, but back in the 80s, one of his gigs was broadcast live on bavarian TV and I taped it and watched it a ton of times. Trying to remember what the set list was - southern Mark Smith for sure (my favourite too), human jungle, grooving in the bus lane, death dentist, girlfriend, Bigfoot motel... Pretty weird it was shown at all really, and even though I didn't really have any frame of reference to contextualise it, 15yo me loved the mix of ramshackle goofiness and genuinely lovely tunes. RIP JB
― primate marmite (NickB), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
yeah, more songwriters should listen to the Butcher and take notes on how to be both hilarious and heartfelt in the same song. only saw him once--US shows were few and far between this century--but he and his band that night were excellent.
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
I saw him once in the mid nineties in Seattle - I think “Shirley Maclean” was on the set list
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
This is the first one to really hurt since northern Mark Smith. Saw the band with him and Max at a tiny Iowa City club with only a handful of people in 99 - terrible turnout. Max became unnerved because he'd strum the keynote opening chord for Pat to tune to before each song, and I'd shout out the name of the song in utter joy as they were seeming all 80s Max-era tunes like Girls Who Keep Goldfish and Who Loves You Now (this was right after Max rejoined the band and also reissued Best Kisser in the World, an absolutely essential listen for any fan of the band, so I think I got lucky in that respect as Pat deferred to the oldies for Max's benefit).
We should poll Bloody Nonsense/Gift of Music (I wonder if a full artist poll wouldn't get enough votes, but I'd be willing to host it)
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link
please do a poll of those, I'd love that
yeah this one really hurts for me as well
and yes that Max Eider "Best Kisser" solo LP is excellent throughout
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link
one of his gigs was broadcast live on bavarian TV and I taped it and watched it a ton of times
weirdly this is not on Youtube but I got it from Dimeadozen - live at the Alabama-Halle, Munich. Nov 11 1985? is that the one?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
As I said on the obit thread, I saw him playing, like, 6 weeks ago?
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
yeah my wife and I have really been enjoying his live concerts on Facebook for the past year or so :(
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
That's exactly it! There was a whole series of gigs that got shown from that venue in a prime time evening slot on the main regional TV station. Prefab sprout, the Cult, jazz butcher, the icicle works...
― primate marmite (NickB), Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link
Please throw a vote this a way Polling in the Buslane: Jazz Butcher Gift of Music/Bloody Nonsense poll (RIP Pat Fish 1957-2021)
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Thursday, 7 October 2021 05:18 (two years ago) link
Rolo McGinty of the Woodentops with many memories.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159510360516136&id=545041135&_rdr#!/story.php
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 October 2021 12:43 (two years ago) link
If that didn’t work — but this might not either!https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159510360516136&id=545041135&_rdr#!/story.php?story_fbid=10159789014109540&id=691739539&m_entstream_source=permalink