So what have you cooked lately? (Year three!)

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thanks! maybe I rushed /browned first @ 450 then 350 til "done"

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i agree w/ matt that organic free-range chickens (all meat, really) taste much better than their factory counterparts. this is one area where spending the extra money usually provides noticeable results. his suggestion of lower temp/longer time is a good one. rather than blasting early on for browning, you could try adding a little bit of honey to the basting liquid near the end for that burnished crispness.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I am currently making chicken and mealy pudding pie (or rather I've made it and it's in the oven now). Making pastry when you come home from work is quite calming.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

mealy pudding

Can you provide more detail on this? I don't want to let my imagination run away with itself.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a Scottish pudding (like black pudding or haggis pudding) but white instead and mainly oatmeal. Typical recipe here:

http://www.recipezaar.com/162127

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks!

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I am kind of a chicken hater but I think salting is unquestionably the way to go.

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a mac-n-cheese cookbook for xmas and tonight I'm making a basic one. The sauce is a bechamel with 1/2 cheddar and 1/2 quattro fromaggio (because they came pre-grated from trader joes and it was EASY), the pasta is farfalle, the topping is bread crumbs of a wheat levain. Eating in 5 minutes. Mmmmmm.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

WHOA paul i just had zuni cafe chicken at my friends' house last week!! i didn't even notice it was the zuni recipe until i clicked on your second link. it was AMAAAAAAAZING. but how weird!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a mac'n'cheese COOKBOOK? What do you need to know?!? Make roux, add cheese, pour over pasta, bake. The combinations are practically endless!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, but the endless combinations - that's the thing. For instance, sweet noodle kugel - not your typical mac-n-cheese. It's full of regional variations, and I wanted it, so I'm happy :)

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. :)

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks! maybe I rushed /browned first @ 450 then 350 til "done"

The marvellous (though somewhat scary) Heston Blumenthal roasted his for four hours at 60C. N.B I am not suggesting you do this as he had to deep fry the damn thing to crisp the skin up afterward which is somewhat impractical, though you could brown it off in a pan. A couple of hours at a lowish heat, then a blast (He also brined it, boiled and refreshed the whole thing twice before roasting, this strikes me as being too much like hard work, and somewhat the antithesis of the whole idea of a roast i.e. lovely straightforward comfort eating). I find a salt/marjoram mix brings the skin up a treat (as nobly suggested by Paul upthread).

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

last night was stuffed eggplants from the silver spoon book. they're great, but as usual the whole thing took much longer than the recipe indicated - about an hour and a half as opposed to about 45 minutes or so. why am i such a slowcoach in the kitchen?

p.s. - i am in love w/ silver spoon.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I used my visiting daughter as my assistant last night ("Make bread crumbs!" "Stir this!" "Drain the pasta!" "Get the nutmeg!"). It was exhilarating and I was dizzy with power. Also, we got to eat before 8 pm. I think the amount of prep time for recipes is underestimated in most of the cookbooks I have.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I am under the impression that every cookbook writer has 7 sous chefs running around assisting them because that's the only way most prep times make sense.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and yesterday it was Manhattan clam chowder, except the clams were augmented a bit with oysters as well.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i'm gonna order me a silver spoon cookbook.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the amounts of prep time assume that you have the recipe memorized AND can find every tool in yr kitchen with your eyes shut. Not so much when you're double-checking every ingredient as you go along plus your roommate used the spatula and it has to be washed.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not just prep time that's chronically misestimated! So many writers are guilty of the "saute onion 30 seconds or until translucent" school of how's-that-gonna-happen temporal confusion.

Judy Rodgers may be trendy but she's got a lot on the ball. Salting instead of brining works amazingly in many many meat situations.

Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

arrgh! re: temporal confusion - i've mentioned this before, but the ultimate example i've encountered is an otherwise excellent recipe for fish pie that instructs one to cook over low heat about a pound each of sliced onion and fennel for "10 minutes until well carmelized."

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I have half a brie and some cranberry sauce. I am leaving the country tomorrow. I am about to attempt to make little brie and cranberry filo parcel things then freeze them. Then forget all about them until Christmas, probably.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god the amount of time cookbooks claim it takes to carmelize something is incredible in terms of how much of a lie it is. It used to drive me nuts, because I would get psyched to eat onion soup and then forget that it takes about 300x longer to make (properly) than any recipe will lead you to believe. Now I know so it's not so terrible but I can remember how frustrating that was. It's really no wonder so many people do not cook, I suppose.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a huge amount of leftover garlic mashed potatoes from the other night, so...shepherd's pie.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 January 2007 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

very much yes

Matt (Matt), Friday, 12 January 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Risotto heaven tonight: duck stock that had been simmering most of the day, chantarelle mushrooms, white wine, garlic, fennel, bits of chopped duck meat, a tiny bit of parmesan reggiano.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 12 January 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

dayum

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I finished my pork confit, and it came out well. It was junipery, thymy, but not overly so. I'm not sure if I like all the work that's necessary (it's the first time I've made a totally trad. pork confit) when, functionally if not structurally, it's the same dealio as a big tray of carnitas. Why bother with all the extra prep, fat, grilling?

I served the confit on a bed of annatto and coconut-milk arborio, with a fennel-kabocha soup I got from the Sundays at Lucques cookbook.

On the side I made an arranged, sunset-colored salad from grilled Meyer lemons, roasted heirloom beets, roasted red carrots (they're all the rage at the Santa Monica Farmers' Market) blood orange supremes, and a little fresh mint. I made a plain-jane vinaigrette with a splash of rose water (weird, but good, like something I had at Al Forno about 10 years ago) and served the whole thingy with some extra-crappy chardonnay.

For desert I made madelines and orange-blossom turkish delight. The cookies were great, the turkish delight had all sorts of little crunchy sugar-bits in them. I don't understand why: I used a thick pan, heated evenly, stirred constantly to interrupt the sugar crystallization, added cream of tartar to inhibit crystallization, and kept the cooling temp. well regulated. Thoughts?

remybean (bean), Friday, 12 January 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

PUMPKIN soup. I had bought some pieces but this week I bought a WHOLE pumpkin which meant I had to cut'em up in pieces. NOT EASY but a lot of fun nonetheless. By the end I got the hang how I had to cut it. I don't know if it's the right way, but if I *slice* the pieces off, it's a lot easier than trying for chunks. Anyway, it was just a simple pumpin soup (with onions and in the end some lots of cream). Delicious if I do say so myself. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Remy, don't know what it could be with the crunchy bits. I made fudge yesterday for the first time in years. I don't have a candy thermometer and was terrified I'd let it go from soft ball to hard ball because it was like taffy when I was stirring in the butter and vanilla. All was well though. Have you made it with the orange-blossom water before and all was well?

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

It sounds like the meal was crying out for crunch, and the delight stepped in.

Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Remy, maybe a sugar-crystal clue in here: http://www.baking911.com/candy/101_intro.htm

I actually like my fudge a bit crystalline. Mr. Jaq is in the creamy fudge camp.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

OK Jer, I am *totally* coming to visit you for dinner if I'm ever in the US :)

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

but this week I bought a WHOLE pumpkin which meant I had to cut'em up in pieces. NOT EASY but a lot of fun nonetheless.

Nath: my grandad used to sell fruit & veg. He'd cut up whole pumpkins with this HUGE cleaver type knife you had to learn how to bascially THWACK into the pumpkin. We were never allowed near that knife as kids, it was deadly sharp.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been sick this week, sleeping about 16 hours a day (and going to classes), so it's been pretty much a pastathon here. Sigh. That bread was my last hurrah.

I'm still trying to figure out why that bread recipe didn't call for salt. That was madness. You really can't add salt to bread at the last minute. Even though "last" and "salt" are anagrams.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I loooove pumpkin, but i have big fear about cutting it up, so rarely have it.

g00blar (gooblar), Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't ph34r! Well, I can understand the fear, but if you're careful, then you end up with chunks of goodness! :-) Creamy pumpkin soup= fave dish of the year!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 13 January 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I know! I love that stuff! How do you make it? Roast the pumpkin first?

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 15 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I just make pumpkin soup by skinning punkin and cutting into large chunks, then cutting up chunks of carrot, possibly potato, onion and garlic. Fry it all off for a bit, then cover with hot water or stock. Simmer til soft (30 mins or so), then have at it with the stick blender. So easy, so delish!

Also good with a dash of cumin or garam masala added.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

A roast pumpkin soup would be rather interesting though: roasting all the yellow veg (pumkpin, sweet potato and carrot) would give it a nice caramelised flavour.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I never thght about roasting it! I just boil it. Hmm, must try roasting!

I made the rhum-raisin bread (I mentioned in the Substituting thread) and it's DELICIOUS. It's not dark coloured as in the book (as I didn't use dark rhum) but it's so fluffily yummy! I had to *paint* honey on top of it, so now it's all sticky which makes it hard to put in a bag.

This evening I will make chicken tikka masala again. myum myum

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Butternut squash soup
Plum crumble with flapjack mixture for the topping.
Pasta with store-cupborad sacue - tomatos, onions, tuna, olives, cannelini beans.

Wingwalker (1977), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I've noticed that plums get oddly discolored when I use them in crumbles. Did this happen to you?

ng-unit (ng-unit), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never noticed that before. FWIW I don't pre-cook them. I just halve them and take out the stones, put them in a dish, then dot with knobs of butter and sprinkle with sugar before putting the topping on. I like a combination of the sour plums, over-sweet flapjacky topping and cold, smooth creme fraiche to seve with the crumble.

Wingwalker (1977), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

BROCCOLI soup. a bit heavy though. but still very yummy. ophelia liked it too.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

More shepherd's pie, but this time with mashed sweet potatoes on top. I really wanted to put a big spoonful of hot chili paste in the potatoes, but held off because my wife's losing her ability to eat spicy food. :(

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 18 January 2007 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

A question:

I made a stir-fry last night. Simple thing. Some beef strips, some onions + garlic, a completely random sauce/marinade of oil, hot chili paste, soy, orange juice & ginger. Served over leftover rice.

Was fine, but a bit overdone. Wanted to let the sauce cook down and stick to things, but by that time the meat was quite tough. Any suggestions on how to keep stir-fry meat somewhat tender?

***

Oh, and I made a carrot + parsley + potato soup the other day.

Basic mirepoix (carrot, onion, celery) baked to a deepish brown in a cast-iron pan, low oven. Then I boiled those vegs for 45 minutes or so w/ standard soup herbs to make a stock. Later, I sauteed potatoes in butter w/ vermouth, added this to the stock, along w/ carrots, LOTS of parsley & more herbs. A bit of fresh parsley, some black pepper and a good dollop of heavy cream at the end.

Really damn good.

verbose, bombastic, self-immolating (Pye Poudre), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What cut of beef are you generally using for your stir-fry? What size do you generally cut the pieces?

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: soup = yum. Try parsnips sometime, if you like carrots.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I add a bit of cornstarch-in-water to thicken the sauce without having to reduce it (you want a lot of sauce anyway), and slice the meat as thin as possible. (Partially freezing it will help with that.) Anyway, then you can serve it as soon as it's all barely done through without getting tough.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link


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