funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

also since reynolds insists on being such a cheap cloth-eared dick wrt to scoring random sub-carmodian points off broken beat so he can belatedly work funky into the nuum - look dogg, a funky relick of afronaught's 'transcend me' - http://www.myspace.com/tribalaudio

really like that out of everyone geeneus (however negligibly) ended up remixing 'good life' - very much his sort of detroity sound to begin with no?

happily i guess this also now means you don't have to listen to lifelong r&b troopers who just so happen to find themselves operating in a post-dubstep milieu to hear los da maestro in a funky set. phew.

i expected more from geeneus remaking good life. its like something some no-name would do. and yeah, cos hes always been pretty technoy anyway i thought it would be more inspired.

would love it if some funky producer remade IG cultures the sun or something. or just played it at least.

transcend me is good when the singing stops.

I think about 50% of the music ppl dl from me on s1sk is funky.

That Stush track Lex linked to is phenomenal. It's made me realise that, what I want more than anything, is her spitting over a ruff physical funky remix of Green Velvet's 'Answering Machine'.

"I don't need this <squeak>SHIT!</squeak>"

Was thinking about how "Get Low" almost cynically targets all my aesthetic biases. It makes me want to resist it and contraristan for something else but there's no point, it's just too satisfying.

I give it six months before a lot of (still) funky house skeptics retrospectively annoint it a classic.

but everyone is anointing it a classic now...?

the skeptics are? or the ppl who already love funky

oh i don't even know who the sceptics are any more.

apart from "the british public"

I'd say less sceptical and more "almost completely ignorant of its existence".

Yeah clearly a lot of people who already love funky are anointing it a classic, I mean it feels kinda like a "Destiny" or a "Neighbourhood" or a "Boo" - tunes that even people who aren't into garage that much will admit is classic. This doesn't impact on its quality one way or the other obv.

anyone who likes dubstep/grime/funky/garage would agree its an instant classic. people who dont prob would, if it actually got some exposure outside the scene. but i dont think it is getting that, well apart from on 1xtra or choice maybe.

Yeah that's what I mean, it kinda parades its classic-ness to anyone who has even a passing interest in tangentially connected stuff.

In other news the October 4 Marcus rinse set is really strong, lots of really bizzaro tunes from Naughty Raver and Passa Passa (sp? I keep on almost typing "pari passu").

cool. i taped that one but not heard it yet. i hate listening to rinse podcasts. the quality is so tinny.

suppose i have to be the one dissenting voice here - i don't actually find the wizened bellicose perma-screwface miss dynamite's cultivated since she came back a few years ago overly enjoyable. i mean it's good on 'crackish' in a generic jamaican ingredient + extra rhythmic diversion kinda fashion but in no way does it culminate in the level of brilliant personality of the other tunes you're elevating it to. (i accept this is partly down to previous affections to ms d but then that's hardly an unfair thing to do either.)

obv that does make me sound a bit "bubbla ranks maaaaade 'mysterious girl' maaaan", but fuck it, i'll take the hit.

No, well, it's not actually as good as those three tunes, if anything it's me wondering how much I can jab people who only praise this kinda tune without my snark somehow reflecting on the music.

haha yes well the WELCOME TO MY WORLD FINNEY subplot throughout this thread is one i particularly happen to enjoy.

especially liked the 'come to mama' passapassa tune on that marcus set! all the sticky-style spanish guitar and "tu sais tu es ingenue..." etc urbane continentalisms before she grabs you by the lapels.

agreed on Get Low impressions so far = more Ramp than Booo! (latter of a certain familiar poster's 10 of the noughties list fame). would expect nuum bangers to help critical (+?) cred for funky but after Pull It (and its temporary solitariness) feels like the best case for Get Low is to stake out more turf confirm/push territorial lines: this TOO is MINE - yah funky!

(prefer hushed intimacy of "Speechless" meself)

"Get Low" does sound great in the mix though! check it around 8 tracks in on Footloose's latest 1XTRA show (up for 5 days more from today).

feeling this Footsteps - "Rewind" tune too! and Cherri - "School Daze (Delirious remix)" - some of these tunes are shiny in almost New Pop way! plus electro-riffage

on the dark and dutty side is anyone else feeling the recent Bok Bok tracks? Dre Skull - "I Want You (Bok Bok VIP dub)" and the Night Slugs EP. something mysterious and sensual (but still bangin') - a more exciting use of dub than I've heard in dubstep itself.

especially liked the 'come to mama' passapassa tune on that marcus set! all the sticky-style spanish guitar and "tu sais tu es ingenue..." etc urbane continentalisms before she grabs you by the lapels.

yes this was particularly awesome, though in an almost sickly kind of way. Really liking this new trend of near-punishing diva tracks, for which I guess Enrique Benitez's "Cooking" forms the new standard industry blueprint.

^ "Really liking this new trend of near-punishing diva tracks" = posts very much in character.

(prefer hushed intimacy of "Speechless" meself)

Do you mean the DJ Mystery track Paul? Love it too, also the glacial sunburn of the recent DJ Naughty remix. I like how Naughty's holding on to his core sound but tweaking it slightly to make it feel more intense and woozy (see also his not-quite-so-good-but-still-good carnivalesque remix of Sean Kingston's "Fire Burning").

Also pleased to finally hear Donaeo's remix of "Birthday Sex". It does exactly what it needs to and no more.

Also M Sadler's rave-soca sound is really doing it for me at the moment. Reminds me of when reynolds complained that b/c of funky for the first time in ages Notting Hill Carnival might actually sound like a carnival <---- how could that possibly be a bad thing??

also also also what do people think of Donae'o's remix of "In The Morning"?? It seems to miss the point of the song, but enjoyably so. Still I have issues with tracks where the vocals and the music seem oblivious of one another. The "African Warrior"-style drop is heaps of fun though.

Actually the really enjoyable recent DJ Naughty production is his remix of "Bust Your Windows", though as much because the original song is so great. But also more of those liquid nitrogen synth chords and simply delectable rhythm programming.

(did anyone catch the use of the original song on Glee?)

>Reminds me of when reynolds complained that b/c of funky for the first time in ages Notting Hill Carnival might actually sound like a carnival <---- how could that possibly be a bad thing??

considering the first rave I ever went to was a West Indian carnival (calypso pre-soca era, steel band & string band) when I was 7, I see this as a real blind spot for Simon.

when one's critical outlook is peppered so liberally w/blind spots, is the term really appropriate any more

So what's the deal with Jam City? Kiran Sande's written a thesis sized piece on them over at FACT magazine. I guess JC isn't strictly funky but anyways...

'ere

JC seems more on the funkstep side of things. i like what i hear but yeah, not much to do with funky really. all the hype seems to be that hes sort of grime/garage influenced, kinda on the um 'funkno' side of things. but then thats good in a way, the scene around funky can have so many diff artists coming from all angles. fact are bound to be more into a guy like JC than donaeo.

tho guys like jam city are a nice change to me - theres been so much talk about how dubstep has been such a fertile breeding ground/jump off point but grime doesnt seem to get quite the same props anymore...

feeling this guy -
http://www.myspace.com/juliobashmore

i just get my tips from fact lol
i dunno where else to get them from - no idea how you guys find out who makes what...

listening to jam city's lower end spasm mix now, liking a lot

It's alright.

More importantly, the DJ Larizzle's Strickly Funky Vol. 10:

http://www.4shared.com/file/134948100/afa72273/DJ_Larizzle__MC_Ramzee__Stormparties__Strickly_Funky_Vol_10_-_The_2nd_Year_Anniversary.html?err=no-sess

That Jam City mix is great but it doesn't belong here at all, it's much too stiff and mechanistic. It seems to sit somewhere between fidget house, Greenmoney and the Ashley Beedle remix of Township Funk. And something else much techier that I can't put my finger on.

It's a bit DJ Zinc (recent DJ Zinc) actually.

I should say it's probably better than "alright", I'm just reacting to the massive hype-inflation. Not sure why taking this stuff and making it all serious cat automatically = hosannas.

Haha you say that about everything Tim!

I like the idea of taking grimey hooks and making them techy and expensive sounding much more than I like the idea of taking funky and making it serious cat (which Jam City totally isn't doing).

The sheer level of purple prose in that Fact article is embarrassing though.

"Haha you say that about everything Tim!"

I know, but it bears repeating. I'm fighting a losing battle.

it's not a battle! everyone can coexist i feel. also, one purple prosey article does not "massive hype-inflation" make...

never really knew where to put this before but if jam city fits in here, i think kingdom certainly does. he's an amazing NYC dj/producer and massive r&b fan who absolutely smashed night slugs a few months ago; loads of trancey stabbing synths, diva vox, tons of energy and largeness. think it'll be much more to your liking tim - his "mindreader" track ft. shyvonne is astonishingly massive. this mix in particular is excellent - http://dot-alt.blogspot.com/2009/03/kingdom-exclusive-mix-for-lower-end.html

http://twitter.com/kkingdomm is good value too

listening to that mix again now and i cannot stress how much u all need to hear it

I know you think I'm just full of it on this point, but indulge me: name someone, anyone apart from me, who has tried to write seriously about any actual funky artist in the past year not in the following list: Crazy Cousinz, Roska, Cooly G, Scratcha DVA, Lil' Silva.

Just one article, anywhere.

Having said that, this Kingdom mix sounds excellent. Much better than the Jam City one IMO.

Yeah that Jam City mix is pretty fun for sure. Beat wise it seems to have that loose backbone I associate with a lot of funky I've heard. But whether it belongs on this thread or not I'm not expert enough to say. Good luck to the lad though...

" Crazy Cousinz, Roska, Cooly G, Scratcha DVA, Lil' Silva."

earlier in the year you could be forgiven for only concentrating on those guys though. seeing as they WERE the biggest names and most exciting.

now, things have moved on to yknow, jam city.

who else should people be writing about though? i cant say at this point. half the tunes are like arent even made by people 'in' the scene. theyre from other places.

Perempay & Dee? Donae'o? Geeneus? Ill Blu? Just picking the first four who came to mind with actual distinguishing features.