"Pop Punk"

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Not really. The production is enough for me not to.
But, uh...I do like Good Charlotte. Don't tell!

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

And I'm pretty sure I'm not biased and alone when I say the lyrics to most Avril Lavigne's songs don't do anything for me AT ALL, even when getting in touch with my inner pre-pubescent femininity.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Try Kelly Osbourne. She's WAY better than Avril on all counts (ok, Avril's bellowing on "I'm With You" is out of Kelly's range).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

You know what's really sad? Sony have done a really awful job of marketing her album. Even with the show's hype she hardly gets a favorable push. It's sold poorly which is a shame. I've only heard the singles, but they're NAHZ.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, anybody who likes them but hates ALL the pop-punk out there now is probably doing it based on some ass-backwards principle.

I haven't heard all the pop-punk out there now and to be frank based on what I HAVE heard, I'm not in the mood to hear more.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, but Ned, you don't like anything now! You don't count. I'm talking about the I'd-like-Sum-41's-single-if-the-copyright-was-1982.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, but Ned, you don't like anything now!

I think the more people wrongly simplify my stance the more I'll be amused. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

For me, I suppose it all stems from my soft spot for NOFX. :B

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

:B --->buckteeth, not a split tongue

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

I like Blink-182 - what i've heard is fun and catchy. Dont underatnd whythey're bing accused of/seen as a sign of decline of wetsern civ.

H (Heruy), Friday, 20 June 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

It's worth noting at this point -- I don't think anyone made this distinction earlier -- that Avril Lavigne did not write "Sk8er Boi," or "Complicated."
and Jess/Dubplate... I stand by this:
>> not much of a historical reference point for the "sound" of the Backstreet Boys <<
explain the "?!?!?!?!?!!!???????."

Ben Boyer, Friday, 20 June 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

Sum 41 is fantastic. "Still Waiting" might be pop-punk's shining moment - of the last five years, at least.

Samuel Bloch, Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

search: sum 41, offspring, alien ant farm, good charlotte, blur's crazy beat, mel c's falling down.

lid, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

you know i used to think avril looked like a racoon, but now i fancy the pants off of her. she just looks like she needs a hug.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, anybody who likes them but hates ALL the pop-punk out there now is probably doing it based on some ass-backwards principle.

what if you're like me, and you have a token pop-punk band that you like? wouldn't that be seen as dodgy here? (not that i give a fuck, but like ned, most of it just plain annoys me) for the record, my token pop-punk band is blink 182, they can craft some pretty good melodies out of about 3 notes, plus they're fun and danceable.

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

eh, that's cool, though I wouldn't be me if I didn't say you shouldn't check out Good Charlotte's, Kelly Osbourne's and the All-American Rejects' latests.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:15 (twenty years ago) link

it's the people who only like pop-punk if it happened within the correct timespan that bug me.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:15 (twenty years ago) link

woah. I triple negatived. You SHOULD check those albums.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

I think the Hard-Ons are pop punk and everyone else can gtfo

wilter, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

^^dont remember posting that.

recently remembered 'pop and disorderly' by Limp which came out in 97. I just downloaded it, It's pretty good!

wilter, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

This Sdekicks album is p enjoyable

calstars, Saturday, 24 January 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link

it's all right. last few songs are very good

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link

amazing thread

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link

(mostly the sidekicks record just made me really want to listen to the cymbals eat guitars album from last year, not that they necessarily sound alike, though maybe there's a case to be made for the former being pop-punk/indie and the latter being indie/emo)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link

eight years pass...

Wondering how any serious journalist or pundit tricked into promoting the Iraq War lives with the knowledge they were less skeptical of an international conflict than the tracklist for Rock Against Bush pic.twitter.com/fWtxKtZVps

— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023

You wrote for The New York Times and were further behind the curve than Sum 41

— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023


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