New Yorkers: Weigh in on the Swiftly Sprouting ASTOR PLACE "Luxury" High Rise

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astor place has already had the hell gentrified out of it, as tracer points out. you describe it upthread as "skater kids, gutter punks, irritating NYU'rs and pretentious Cooper Union brats hanging out at the Cube right in front of your lobby, the constant traffic stemming from Lafayette zooming up to 4th Avenue, the constant spillout of human cattle coming in and out of the Astor Place subway station." it's like someone's trying to pave prospect park. the area is a total nightmare anyway. from an urban conservationist perspective, i don't see how this will make it worse. and if you're worried about martini-swigging eurotrash, note that page six ground zero butter has been right there on lafayette street for a while now.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man fuck people who drive cars in Manhattan.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

^

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

the area is a total nightmare anyway

Well, yeah, but why make it worse?

Butter is awful. For some reason, I'm on their mailing list, and I cannot for the life of me fathom how that came to be.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

you knew someone in high school

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Could be. I went to its former incarnation as Belgo (and my wife stole an etched beer glass from them...very naughty), but never to Butter.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.gratefuljoe.com/concerts/blondielandmark-7.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.readio.com/archives/0304/23/img9.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

http://valerian.araneum.ca/Images/newyork/tvaudville.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

http://valerian.araneum.ca/Images/newyork/stmarks.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for the day amusement park-esque mascotts just start roaming the streets of NYC hugging everybody.

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.offoffoff.com/film/2001/images/downtown81.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.continentalnyc.com/images/3.jpg

(for those wondering why I'm posting this pic of Nashville Pussy on a thread devoted to Astor Place, The Continental is just to the East of the building site on 3rd Avenue. I was actually at the show, I must confess).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.continentalnyc.com/images/cont_cd_v1.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Long gone....

http://webtunes.com/coney/coneys.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.in-nyc.com/in-bars/images/grassroots-tavern.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 August 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, Alex. Your pics have made me nostalgic for places I pretty much disliked in the first place. Namely Coney Island High ('cept for the great, great Green Door parties in their basement space. Fond memories) and Venus. But - hey - Change, man. 'Tis inevitable.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 14 August 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

great Green Door parties in their basement space

I so miss those.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.beautifulmonde.com/pict/nyc_lower3.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.urban75.org/photos/newyork/images/ny376.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I walk past the second to last building every day on the way to the subway.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

And tonight walking past Tower I realized where you get your inspiration for the cover connections! I saw the Los Lobos cover and thought it was that Bunnymen best of.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.afscet.asso.fr/afscetcafe/gaston/astor_place_2.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.samsoloman.com/photoalbumn/ny2002/100-0095_IMG.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

This is making me nostalgic and I fucking live here.

Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.a4.net/svensk/vykort/vykort01/img01/01_astor.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

http://artsavant.com/images/wtcnyc/astorplace02.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

http://home.flash.net/~ral1/starbucks/bigimages/DSCN3414.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.nycjpg.com/2003/pictures/jpg/0728.c.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.bhag.net/2003/2003clayj/vaclayj2003asto.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

http://nlp.cs.nyu.edu/directions/nyu3.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

in 1980, apparently...

http://www.godlis.com/street_pages/Images/17.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.godlis.com/punk_page1/images/2.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.godlis.com/punk_page1/images/15.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

God, those images make my teeth ache with longing.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Television on St.Mark's Place...

http://www.godlis.com/punk_page2/images/1.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.godlis.com/punk_page3/images/3.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.godlis.com/punk_page3/images/8.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link


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