George R. R. Martin

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But the Daenerys chapters are some of the best, there is a full character arc in the first book with her.

But, yes read, read, read, remy.

Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Sunday, 8 January 2006 08:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

since daenerys was not directly involved with any of the other characters in the first book, it quickly became boring to me. on subsequent readings i read them, obv. and by the middle or end of the second book she becomes one of the most interesting characters.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

Laura has been on my case: I PROMISE I will read this. Pls loan me Book 1 kthxbye!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

laurel, you are in the park slope area? i will loan you book one ANY TIME.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Nope, not quite -- I live in Crown Heights. I can take one bus, though.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

well. you know. next time i see you or whatever, or we could meet in between or something.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 17:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

He wrote Sandkings? Fuck it, I'm buying (part one of) this tomorrow!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's just as well Martin is only halfway through writing the series -- if they were all available now I'd have to take a leave of absence from work until I got through all seven (if seven is the right number). I can hardly STAND IT that I'm sitting here checking ozalids* while book 1 burns a hole in my handbag, under the desk.

*Well actually at the moment I'm "checking" ILX but I'll get back to the ozalids in two shakes.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Incidentally, I've stopped at the end of book 3 and I'm planning to hold off reading the others until they're all published. Its a natural break point, and I know that if I read book 4 now I'll just read 1 to 4 again when 5 comes out, and then 1-5 again when 6 comes out...

Ray (Ray), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Smart. Though in my case probably implausible.

Just to check: 'end of book 3' is by name halfway through book 3, yes?

I like the different main characters for every chapter, and in particular the way that not all of them survive the end of their latest chapter.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

'End of book 3' = 'end of the big hardback book 3' = 'the one that was just published is on my shelves but I will not open it for another 4 to 6 years'

Ray (Ray), Sunday, 15 January 2006 18:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

i just started game of thrones. it's pretty addictive.

some of the prose is pretty horrible but still dude knows how to keep you hooked.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 15 September 2008 21:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Despite literally billions of personal recommendations, I've never been able to get into the Game of Thrones copy I bought several years ago.

Last year I bought Dreamsongs (that whacking great short story omnibus) but haven't looked at it yet. Surprised it's not been mentioned here.

You touched me officer, sorry (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 15 September 2008 21:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

SPOILERS ALERT

there's no way the hound is dead, right? it's like that 3 chapters in storm of swords where they led us to believe bran & rickon had been killed, but weren't, right?!!!

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd like to kick him in the balls at least once for every time he pulls that trick tbh

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

i mean it's such fucking lazy writing. i basically can't avoid "so is this guy actually dead? *flicks ahead*", or if i'm feeling lazy *googles*.

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

since daenerys was not directly involved with any of the other characters in the first book, it quickly became boring to me. on subsequent readings i read them, obv. and by the middle or end of the second book she becomes one of the most interesting characters.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion)

I like how this seems to imply that Daenerys actually is involved with other characters in the later books. (No, X doesn't count.)

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

btw my crazy theory is that jon snow is not actually ned's son but the son of lyanna stark and rhaegar targaryen that ned claimed for his own to protect him from the lannisters. eventually he and daenarys will hook up and rule all the known fucking world.

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha i'd forgotten that that was ever even a thing

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

nick i think that's everyone's crazy theory who ever spent actual time speculating on these books

there's a pretty obvious "general direction of plot" by the end of book 4 though (dany ends up on the main continent with everyone else and joins the power struggle, some great evil force attacks from the north). you don't create something like the wall if its not gonna be the site of a big important battle scene.

god i'm not looking forward to rereading all 4 books when the 5th one's finally announced but i don't really remember 90% of the plot details

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Started reading the first book this week...I may have to quit my job and devote my life to these books. Love, love LOVE. And I'm only 200 pages in!

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is like when a good friend is so excited to introduce you to the new guy theyre dating and you realize its some good looking dude you know who serially cheats on his gfs and makes them pay for dinners

Lamp, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol otm

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh so it's one of THOSE series. Is this like the Dark Tower where I will need years of therapy to get over the carnage?

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

That's pretty much my favorite picture ever. Of anything.

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

George has figured out how to live, obv

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol yes

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

can anyone explain that picture please

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I could but it's better if you don't know.

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

okay that's cool

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

thanks for looking out for me

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gotta be something to do with the tv show shoot, right? Or no?

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh oops, if its decided not to know then I'll shut up

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Listen can't we just leave it at that's just how he rolls?

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

(VG otm - it was taken at a wrap party ;) but I prefer to think it's just another night in the life)

Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i only read the first one, but

it's cool that you are willing to kill off main characters, but not that cool
your middle initials are "r.r."? c'mon
I just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

started to wonder if it was a fanfic thing or maybe wrote porn on the side and then it got kinda lolol in my head

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm really bad about starting a new fantasy series, because I always think "Ugh great now I have to learn a bunch of weird names and stupid maps and ugh wtf is this language" but they're never as bad as I make them out to be and the funniest part is I havent yet met a fantasy series I didn't love. I just wait 5 years between reading a new series, lol

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

A Dance With Dragons will be published on July 12. The manuscript is huge — the publisher estimates the hardcover edition will run more than 900 pages, putting it about the same length as the longest book in the series, A Storm of Swords. Schedule your summer vacation accordingly.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What took so long?
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN: I’m not sure I have a good answer. If I did, I would have taken less time. It’s enormous. It’s as long as A Storm of Swords. It’s very complicated. I have a lot of characters and points of view. And I’ve been doing a ton of rewriting, trying to get it where I wanted it to be. Some of these chapters I’ve rewritten more times than I can count before I’m satisfied with them.

Can you tease something from the book?
I don’t want to spoil any surprises. I can say all the characters people have been waiting for are there: Daenerys, Jon Snow, and Tyrion. There’s also new characters, and viewpoints from characters who did not have viewpoints before.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Finally!

Number None, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

the red wedding actually ranks as one of the most genuinely shocking plot turns I have encountered as a reader, I was like daaaaaaaamn

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh god, yes

I remember actually spluttering at the book when that happened because I just KNEW someone was going to escape

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

also it seems like the show might already be laying the groundwork for the Improved Jaime Lannister, which was took me a while to buy into in the books

(which I'm guessing is because Martin didn't have that plotted from the outset, so it was natural to make early Jaime more str8 villainous)

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I hope the show lasts that long. I genuinely can't see it going the distance though. How many seasons has HBO's longest running drama had i wonder?

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

that video, from the other thread? that is how i felt

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

i thought the jamie rehabilitation was so well done that is had to be p well planned but maybe my recollection is generous

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I actually cackled a bit once I realized that dude was all in---like "oh shiiiiiiit you are really going for it"

plot thing I keep getting faked out on: arya reuniting with nymeria. he's feinted at it a couple times (mostly around Harenhall), but I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a red herring

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

jamie rehabilitation makes me sad that him and tyrion are going to have to kill each other, i wish they could just go on road trips together, the brothers one-hand and shorty

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

that video, from the other thread? that is how i felt

p much

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

that shit makes ned dying feel like a happy effing ending

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe i am giving way way too much credit, but i thought that having the starks and the lannisters starting off as the too-obvious good and evil sides of the series and then massacring them and turning two of the remaining lannister adults into 'good guys' was genius.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

w/r/t jaimes rehab: it was done well, but I sensed a...break between how he was rendered in the first book and how he was later developed, is all. like all the stuff about aerys' cruelty and w/e seemed like it was conceived after the first book

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well we only see Jamie through other people's eyes at first, and mainly from a distance

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

jamie doesnt get a p.o.v. in the first book though

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe i am giving way way too much credit, but i thought that having the starks and the lannisters starting off as the too-obvious good and evil sides of the series and then massacring them and turning two of the remaining lannister adults into 'good guys' was genius.

Agreed! Just think the decision to do this hadn't been made at the outset is all.

Anyway how will Joffrey die is what I want to know

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

jamie doesnt get a p.o.v. in the first book though

ahhhhhh that's it

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

like duh of course

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey gbx, out of interest, where are you up to. are you just past the red wedding?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

arya becomes a faceless man, travels to westeros to do the deed, pipped to the post by....littlefinger? loras? a tragic and lolzy riding accident? ~dragons?

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm all the way through it

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait, all the way thru the 4?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

y

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

and you're asking how Joffrey will die...?

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was trying to think of an oblique, non-spoilery way of saying that.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

god I am dumb

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

like I actually had to think for a second

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

ANYWAY

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

pretend i meant cersei

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

loll

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

i actually dont really want cersei to die, i just want her to be thrown out of power and disgraced and humiliated.

the freys, i want to die. all of them. slowly.

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, i kind of feel bad for Fat Walda

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw is coldhands actually benjen stark y/n

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

walder dying would be too inconsequential because he is thereabouts already. would rather see him humiliated. all of his heirs dying would be p hilarious, the continuation of his line being probably the one certainty he has in life. the gods should tear down the twins. surprise volcano.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp almost feels too obvious, but probably. did they burn thorin?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Coldhands = Benjen is certainly the most common theory. I have no idea though really

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

uh, qhorin

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Had Sam never seen Benjen?

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Don't think so

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah he was gone when sam showed up

is theon the most pitiable character, y/n

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've said this before on here but for some reason i'm still clinging to the notion that Theon will redeem himself

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

if it were any other series id say that theon will kill the bastard bolton but martin doesnt like neat tie-ups like that

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

kinda worried about rickon. wonder if after the ultimate happy ending someone will stumble upon the skeleton of a little boy and a direwolf in a ditch to sour it.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

would serve him right, hes a bad lil kid

☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think theon will do something that ~ought~ to redeem him, but it will be anonymous or mistaken as someone else's work or something

xp rickon's gonna turn into a gollum like little dude

all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

what are the odds Theon is somehow going to end up getting tossed out of the Eyrie

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thinking along the same lines gbx

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe instead of seeing things through his wolf, Rickon's wolf is seeing things through him

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

rickon and his wolf being assholes are kind of a counterpoint to the whole lannisters-becoming-good thing. maybe by the end of the book there will have been a full volte-face.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

dany + jon fight back the others, reunite and secure the kingdom, then shaggydog fucks them up. fin.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe the book series ends with Daenerys reclaiming the throne and proclaiming a new age of peace, offering amnesty to all of the other noble families and marrying Jamie to bolster her coffers, only to be assassinated by a vengeful Arya

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha how many martin threadz are there on ilx?

fuck the freys tho, srsly, hang them all

neti pot, kombucha, how to die alone (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I am almost done w/ the first book and so far it seems like the book is divided so:

25% descriptions of food
25% descriptions of what people are wearing
25% of how women are useless
25% hodgepodge of cursing, sex, and what the spirit animal of each house is

USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i clicked on this so quickly thinking 'did he die c'mon c'mon dead george martin c'mon'

thomp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink


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