(okay, I admit that's really stretching it)
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2008 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Tim, I totally agree with you. I mentioned Panda Bear in the title basically as a hook, though there are some similarities as you say.
― abbysmyname, Monday, 21 January 2008 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm imagining this as sounding like Beirut now.
― blueski, Monday, 21 January 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Less like Beirut than Panda Bear even. Perhaps a Latino Ariel Pink? Only much much better than Ariel Pink.
Big big drum loops and sighing amorphous loops (keyboards, Spanish guitar etc.) and happy multitracked singing somewhere in the background.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually that comparison (Ariel Pink) is horrendously misleading as well. Ignore me.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2008 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Well Tim, it may be misleading (in fact whoever you compare him to may be misleading cause El Guincho is truly unique, as I see it) but curiously I made that same comparison in a comment I left in their blog (http://discotecaoceano.blogspot.com/) some weeks ago. My exact words were "el Ariel Pink de la playa y las máximas melodías transoceánicas". My English is not very good but I think it would something like "the Ariel Pink from the beach and the maximun transoceanic melodies". It sounds pretty stupid, I know. In that blog I mentioned, Pablo (El Guincho) and Felix, the man from the tiny label Discoteca Oceano, usually write (in Spanish) and there are some posts (ALEGRANZA pt. 1, ALEGRANZA pt. 2, etc) telling what samples he used in the songs: tropicalia, calypso, african music, folklore from the Canary Islands (he is from Gran Canaria, like me), exotica, latin,... Btw (listen to the teacher, boys), Alegranza is a very small island with no habitants and a big volcanic crater near Lanzarote. And guincho is a kind of bird typical from these islands.
― abbysmyname, Monday, 21 January 2008 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
For some reason every song on his myspace sounds like music for a summertime fizzy drink advert. Still, good fun. Not sure if those loops will become nicely hypnotic or turn-this-shit-off-its-driving-me-nuts hypnotic.
― Crackle Box, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
this is pretty good. i'm hearing some os mutantes in it (wrong country/language obv.) more than any indie stuff getting namedropped here
― am0n, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sure he would totally agree with you. Other Brazilian names he has pointed as favourites of him in some interviews are Milton Nascimento, Caetano Veloso (especially the highly experimental "Araçá azul") or Tom Zé. And lots of Caribbean (Lord Kitchener, The Mighty Sparrow,...) and African music (I suggest checking the great Syliphone -Guinean label- reissues in Sterns Africa).
http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info.php?id=STCD3025-26
― abbysmyname, Monday, 21 January 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Not sure if those loops will become nicely hypnotic or turn-this-shit-off-its-driving-me-nuts hypnotic.
I'm also getting that feeling. And other than the sense of playful anarchy that AC/Panda Bear have on their records, I don't think they sound all that similar.
I'm digging it, though. It's insanely catchy, that's for sure.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 21 January 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
sounds more like some of the new animal collective songs like brother sport http://youtube.com/watch?v=wEIhXPK0TSM
― mizzell, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I hadn't heard that song. Cool.
A homemade video of "Kalise", from "Alegranza": http://youtube.com/watch?v=bkQ0qZvP75Y
El Guincho party! ("Kalise" again) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zH8FfDBr4
And this is a non-released song he posted in his blog. Very atmospheric. "Final de archipiélago": http://www.zshare.net/audio/5953885022fb5d/
― abbysmyname, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Btw, El Guincho also has another band, Coconot, with an album released in 2005 in BCore, "Novo Tropicalismo Errado". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82E3_EBzQZY In that first recording they were Pablo (El Guincho) and his cousin. His cousin left and now they are a trio. I think they're gonna release a new album soon. http://www.myspace.com/coconot
He also plays drums in a Catalonian folk band: Albaialeix. They're gonna release their first album soon. http://www.myspace.com/albaaleix
― abbysmyname, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
to user "a passing spacecadet":
my email back to you wouldn't go through, it said :
thx man
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link
first listening impression reference points: calypso X the field album
― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Should I investigate this?
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link
y
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link
very much yes
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link
this is slaying me right now. so goood...
― oscar, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I played this over the weekend for some civilians and all really liked it
― Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link
El Guincho round the world:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/48161-el-guincho-fata-morgana-mp3stream http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/28/AR2008012802477.html http://stereogum.com/archives/band-to-watch/band-to-watch-el-guincho_007810.html?utm_source=sb&utm_medium=f http://super45.cl/2008/01/30/el-guincho/
UK tour soon... some confirmed London dates: 24 mar 2008 Durrr London 27 mar 2008 Moshi Moshi Night London 1 abr 2008 White Heat London
More news: UK Kids! Alegranza is now out to buy in Rough Trade. There's only 25 copies! You can also order the record online from here:
http://www.roughtrade.com/site/shop_detail.lasso?search_type=sku&sku=295909
More news: Hey Australia and New Zealand: Alegranza to be released on Mistletone!
hello!!
we're really happy to announce we will be releasing Alegranza on Mistletone Records! Release date: March 1, 2008. it's a digipack redesigned by Jordi Ferreiro (el mejor).
MISTLETONE
Ash and Sophie are super nice and they will make everything easy for you to find the record all around Oceania. I will be touring Australia and New Zealand hopefully by the end of 2008. November or something. So psyched to go there and meet the crocodiles!
hope you're as happy as I am.
Best,
pablo
And here in Spain they have already ran out of copies of "Alegranza" (after one month and a half of its release) so they're gonna release new copies this month.
― abbysmyname, Saturday, 2 February 2008 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.mistletone.net/?cat=28
― abbysmyname, Saturday, 2 February 2008 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I give this record the sleeve seal of approval. glad it's being repressed.
and yeah, I hear more new Animal Collective than Panda Bear in this. But it is its own great thing anyway.
― sleeve, Saturday, 2 February 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
This record gives me a headache. In other words, not enough Panda Bear.
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
i never would have thought of panda bear or animal collective on this -- it reminds me of spanish gypsy music or something (vox especially), just really celebratory and percussive
― Dominique, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/48842-alegranza
― abbysmyname, Friday, 22 February 2008 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link
i am listening to the new ruby suns record and wow, there are some major correlations between that, and el guincho.
― oscar, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link
12 mar 2008 17:30 SXSW - Terrorbird / Forcefield PR at Emo’s Austin, Texas 13 mar 2008 23:30 SXSW - Primavera Sound Showcase at Red Eyed Fly Austin, Texas 14 mar 2008 13:30 SXSW - Sesac Daystage at Austin Convention Center Austin, Texas 14 mar 2008 17:30 SXSW - Everloving Party at Design Within Reach Austin, Texas 15 mar 2008 20:00 SXSW 508 House Austin, Texas 17 mar 2008 20:00 Mercury Lounge w/ Cut Copy, Holy Ghost, The Fashion SOLD OUT! New York 18 mar 2008 21:00 Other Music Party at Union Pool - FREE SHOW!! Brooklyn, New York 23 mar 2008 20:00 XXJFG Party at Barfly Brighton 24 mar 2008 20:00 Durrr London 26 mar 2008 21:00 Antics Dublin 27 mar 2008 20:00 Moshi Moshi Night London 1 abr 2008 20:00 White Heat London 3 abr 2008 20:00 La Pedrera Barcelona 12 abr 2008 20:00 Excuse Me Valencia 26 abr 2008 20:00 La Laguna Tenerife 2 may 2008 20:00 South Pop Festival Sevilla 30 may 2008 23:00 Primavera Sound Barcelona 14 jun 2008 23:00 Clandestino Festival Göteborg 11 jul 2008 23:45 La Mar de Músicas Cartagena
― abbysmyname, Thursday, 13 March 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
been looking for a copy of this but it is too much $$$
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 March 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
shit, did that mercury lounge show sell out cause of him? i was hoping it wouldn't be too crazy at union pool.
― mizzell, Thursday, 13 March 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Shakey, the album is being remixed in London and is gonna be released in a major label soon. However in the USA you can currently get the album here: http://www.othermusic.com/
And for the UK: http://www.roughtrade.com/site/shop_detail.lasso?search_type=sku&sku=295909
― abbysmyname, Thursday, 13 March 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
$20 for a CD? fuck that
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 March 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, a "little" expensive, in Spain is $10 (6,5 euros). You'll have to wait to the worldwide reedition then.
― abbysmyname, Thursday, 13 March 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
That's standard in the UK
― braveclub, Thursday, 13 March 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
probably cause of Cut Copy but I still think Union Pool will be kinda nuts. still gonna go though.
― dmr, Thursday, 13 March 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
There's an Australian edition on Mistletone out soon, which might be cheaper for people in the US. Touring Oceania later in the year, hurrah.
Also, check out this mix he did for the Fader: http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/3/6/freeload-el-guincho-mix
Souley Kanté - Fanga Bainito Muyanda - Kibaji Balla et Ses Balladins - Sara 70 (edit) Los Zafiros - Mirame Fijo Caetano Veloso - Viola Meu Bem Milton Nascimento - Saidas e Bandeiras nº2 Marconi Notaro - Desmantelado Alton Ellis - These Eyes Adoniran Barbosa e Demonios da Garoa - Saudosa Maloca Jorge Ben - Barbarella Lord Kitchener - Kitch You're So Sweet Damiao Experiença - A Vida É Sempre Assim (edit) Patience and Prudence - Tonight You Belong To Me
Patience & Prudence FTW!
New Ruby Suns album is good, but the EP they put out just before it, Lichen Ears, is possibly better - stuff that didn't make sense on the album proper, like the 13-minute "Gibble" and the Section 25/OMD-style "Give Advice".
― etc, Thursday, 13 March 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
fader mix is really cool, listened to it a couple times over the weekend
― dmr, Thursday, 13 March 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
all i know is that that song 'antillas' samples a charles chepkwony song and i can't figure out which. fuck this bullshit.
― elan, Friday, 14 March 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
so if you like that guitar sound check chepkwony
so maybe it's not a chepkwony song if i can't find the sample, but it sounds like chepkwony and he is a genius
― elan, Friday, 14 March 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
so, all i know
El Guincho signs to XL/Young Turks: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/49423-el-guincho-signs-to-xlyoung-turks
The remastered edition of "Alegranza" (cd and lp) will be out in may/june.
― abbysmyname, Sunday, 23 March 2008 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link
^That is really good news.
I just heard it for the first time in a local record store. Even just from hearing 5-6 songs in there, I can tell it's the obvious best record of 2007 that I was missing last year.
― Z S, Sunday, 6 April 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I like this but I don't understand why Instituto Mexicano del Sonido has been overlooked while this is being hyped to the maximum.
― danzig, Thursday, 24 April 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
this is pretty good - a little bit repetitive for my taste and not as murky as Person Pitch. Not sure if it was worth the $30 I had to spend on it :(
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 June 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah when is the XL version coming out?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 27 June 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Definitely one of the greatest bits of Sonar, and he only played instead of a DJ set because Konono no.! pulled out, a mixed blessing.
― I know, right?, Friday, 27 June 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone into his band, Coconut?
― pinkie, Monday, 6 October 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Neat mix:
http://gorillavsbear.blogspot.com/2008/10/mp3-el-guinchos-gorila-contra-bear.html
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
it's hillllllarious how people will do ANYTHING to distance themselves from what's considered "cool" or "good", a la saying "el guincho is much better than panda bear". aside from the obvious musical superiority of person pitch, what alegranza has is utter soullessness. i think it's a great album, but one's a party album and one's art. whatever, keep striving to be different
― Kevin Keller, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i gotta say it made a lot more sense live than on record - having an audience brought out the carnival vibe a bit better.
― unaustralian (jabba hands), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
so, so, so good
― Matos W.K., Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
lex when you abandon your "i like it=it's not indie, i dislike it=it's indie" rule you might actually enjoy yourself
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
the more drunken tramp music the better over innocent smoothie pop
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link
still dig this record
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link
iz gr8!
― the lexx of extreme metal (Ioannis), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
off-topic, but Ioannis, did you end up digging that Saft album?
― Mordy, Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i need to listen to it some more really, but i do appreciate its range at the very least.
― the lexx of extreme metal (Ioannis), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I keep seeing this in the shops and keep thinking I ought to get it but I don't know about the "drunken tramp pop" thing - as long it's not like hauntology Pogues I guess it's worth checking out.
― Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Would I like this?
― Kiitën (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yes
― max, Monday, 28 June 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
alright then
― Kiitën (admrl), Monday, 28 June 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
it's good
― Sensational Howard (admrl), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i like it too. its like, avalanches is shortwave radio from the adjoining island, this is dancing up next 2 the speaker on the dancefloor
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
New album sounds really good on first listen. Shiny rhythmic uptempo dancehall pop, a lot sharper than Alegranza. It's ridiculously cheerful.
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"FM Tan Sexy" kinda amazing.
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Not heard the new one, but I'm looking forward to seeing him live in November. It's at a really small venue, which is going to be very different from seeing him rock the crowd at Primavera '08.
― emil.y, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I enjoyed this a lot. He just played at Spaceland and I missed it
― .. help? (admrl), Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think there was any better place to hear El Guincho than at Primavera '08 with several people jumping around going bonkers as the sun was coming up (or was it going down? I can't remember too well!) I'm sad I missed most of his set. Alegranza was my Person Pitch of 2008. For me it's the ultimate in galloping dance beats, latin rhythms and Beach Boy/Animal Collective call and response.
Emily, when/where you seeing him?
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
The Brighton show - 9th November, I think? It's at The Hope, which is a pretty nice venue but very small. Hopefully it'll get a good 'intimate' vibe rather than a 'why does nobody else like El Guincho?' one.
― emil.y, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Any excuse for me to charter a train to Brighton. I played a DJ set at the Gladstone only this weekend. May see you there!
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Cool!
― emil.y, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't crazy about him live; still bumping the album
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
he endeared himself to me live because he wore a sonics (basketball) jersey and talked about how they were his team when he was a kid
― a peach tree (156), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJK2LwD_nEY^^sample source for Fata Morgana
― bring me your finest milksteak and a side of jellybeans (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ifc.com/news/2010/09/video-premiere-el-guincho-bomb.php
relevant to my interests
― caek, Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
^like
― daavid, Thursday, 23 September 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
( @ Y @ )
― atlas ¯\(°_o)/¯ed (am0n), Thursday, 23 September 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
nice!
― pay to the order of Iron Balls McGinty, $1 and NINE CENTS (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 September 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that's one of the best videos I've ever seen in my life.
― billstevejim, Friday, 24 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
And this song is awesome!
― billstevejim, Friday, 24 September 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I sorta don't understand Pfork turning on this guy ... oh the fickle ways of music journos
― pay to the order of Iron Balls McGinty, $1 and NINE CENTS (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
This new album is... strange. I'm not too sure of the references, but this has more in common with African Highlife, Zouk and Shaangaan than the slam'n'jam Iberia-in-Ibiza stuff from the first one. It's worryingly close to "World" music (the dubious kind). That said I've only listened once, and should check it out again.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i really love this album. maybe because those "world music" signifiers are more immediately pleasurable to me, but this is pretty much great summer pop music.
― ryan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
saw him play abt two weeks ago, the sound was so so bad that ppl left in droves, sad as was really looking forward to the show, heard the new album is fun but not heard it yet
― H in Addis, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that's one of the best videos I've ever seen in my life.― billstevejim, Friday, September 24, 2010 11:59 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkAnd this song is awesome!― billstevejim, Friday, September 24, 2010 12:27 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
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Yes & yes!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
finally got to hear the new record and it is an easy top ten for the year. the whole thing keeps delivering all the way through.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link
stfu kevin keller
― max, Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:32 AM
lol
'antillas' is still a jam
― fuck google analytics (am0n), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
this is one of the best albums of the 2000s/vastly superior to person pitch
― yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
cool! new record soon
http://pitchfork.com/news/62857-el-guincho-returns-with-hiperasia-shares-comix-featuring-mala-rodriguez/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
Hiperasia
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/El_Guincho_Hiperasia_1500.jpg
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link