― Johnathan, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I got "Blue" and "Ladies of the Canyon" for my parents, not thinking I'd ever want them for myself. And why is it that 'warbling' should be considered a bad sound to listen to? Her voice on those two records is lovely!
― youn, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Duane Zarakov, Saturday, 14 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mark, Sunday, 15 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― JM, Monday, 16 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
More to the point, did anyone see that Norwegian girl doing Joni Mitchell on Stars In Euro Eyes?
― Tom, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Geordie Racer, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
x0x0
― NoRMaN FaY, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Norman, it's funny that you mention Joan Baez in relation to this. Joan Didion has this essay about her in which she writes: "When it was time to go to high school, her father was teaching at Stanford, and so she went to Palo Alto High School, where she taught herself "House of the Rising Sun" on a Sears, Roebuck guitar, tried to achieve vibrato by tapping her throat with her finger, and made headlines by refusing to leave the school during a bomb drill." I love the myth that's suggested by these facts, esp. in relation to the setting.
― youn, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
as i am allergic to the entire countryside, i liked that they paved over paradise and put up a parking lot: asphalt = better than pollen dust, IMO
― mark s, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
1. The completely unique sound she gets out of an acoustic guitar on "Blue". 'A Case Of You' = classic.
2. "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns": my definition of Pazz & Jop. Also includes Burundi music way before it was fashionable to do things like this.
3. A band like Nazareth can do great covers of her material. Also her vocal lines are ideal fodder for bootlegs (as Fluke demonstrated years ago). Recontextualisation and all that.
4. She kept Jaco busy - hence fewer shitty Jazz Rock records were made.
(I'm joking about No.4 alex!)
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 26 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:45 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:12 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
and/or multiple alternate tunings, some of her own invention, i believe?
she's one of the greats, compositionally, subject-matter-wise and maybe persona-wise. and yes, arguably hot, if you like the personality. and probably harder than anyone who thinks she's "twee".
Both For the Roses and Court and Spark are arguably better than Blue. Her best singing (and guitar-playing?) may be on the otherwise middling though convenient pre-C&S-greatest-hits live Miles of Aisles
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:12 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― youn, Friday, 29 August 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
i wish i liked anne briggs more.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
just noticed gygax's post. well, a 2nd opinion then.
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
That should read v. famous SCOTTISH guitar player etc., hope you never meet Bert on a dark night!
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 31 August 2003 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 31 August 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link
Expanded 2CD remasters of "Court And Spark", "Hissing Of Summer Lawns" and "Hejira" were supposed to have been released by January this year. They are not yet in the shops half a year later. Does anyone know what happened and when and if they are due?
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
she dumped them in the ocean, I heard.
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
listened to Dog Eat Dog the other day hoping to find a dollar bin gem amidst the 80s production. unfortunately it sucked doggie dick
― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
hence the album title?
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
...lesbian dogs?!
― t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I only know Blue but I love it. I started a little cult of Joni in secondary school when I traded my extra copy of Psychocandy with my friends extra copy of this. I think we both did well.
― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think the real gems are those mid 70s ones, when she used more instruments and adopted a more "floating" and sophisticated song style. Even if there may be a bit too much chorus guitar on "Hejira" at times.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I agree... Hissing of Summer Lawns is my favourite Joni Mitchell record.
― Keith, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Court and Spark is my favorite because of the incredibly strong songwriting . I prefer it over Blue for sure. I'm shocked at the animosity up-thread.
― humansuit, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
"Good Friends" is a good track and single!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"Night Ride Home" is an underpraised gem
― J0hn D., Thursday, 12 July 2007 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Tom Scott & The L.A. Express
― dow, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link
There was just enough Tom to tip the scales, and that kind of sound was having a moment or more---
― dow, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:34 (eight months ago) link
reaction time before purchase decision: <10 msec
same. posted to this thread, then ordered
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:59 (eight months ago) link
how do I shot pre-order
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:52 (eight months ago) link
ah ok, done
hope I get the 7x7 print!
https://store.jonimitchell.com/
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 19 August 2023 00:41 (eight months ago) link
Great demo of what's potentially a great song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P2go-2efwE
― birdistheword, Saturday, 16 September 2023 05:17 (seven months ago) link
Joni Mitchell explains to Cameron Crowe in the Archives Vol. 3 liner notes: “[‘Like Veils Said Lorraine’] was a piece of dialogue that happened with the real-estate woman. I had almost found the land where I would build my little (stone-cabin) house. Lorraine was the real-estate woman who showed me properties. She had a Marlene Dietrich kind of look. She was a platinum blond and she was elegant. She had lived in China with her husband, so she was kind of worldly… and glamorous. It’s an account of our conversation. At some point, I switched to another realtor, and found the property where I would live. It was a piece of an old lumber-jack town. It wasn't on the market, but it called out to me. Houses are important to me, and I know how to pick them. I investigated it and I found out who owned it. I paid what she wanted, and she thought she took me. I thought I got a deal. (laughs) So we were both happy.”
― birdistheword, Saturday, 16 September 2023 05:18 (seven months ago) link
what a treat
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 09:14 (seven months ago) link
THIS BOX
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:40 (six months ago) link
yeah it rules
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:55 (six months ago) link
other cool things I noticed at first:
a neat instrumental ("Sunrise Raga") that I think is also prev unreleased?her horror upon first re-hearing the piano medley, as told to the interviewer in the linersthe goofin' around medley with James Taylor is super funthe early "Twisted" I like even more than the band version, plus lyric flubs and giggles
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:01 (six months ago) link
oh and the tunes w/Neil shredding
A couple of memos I just recently got:Graham Nash w Joni Mitchell: "Our House" demo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYjRzQc_ch4
Joni w Neil & Stray Gators: "You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)" demo:http://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#sent/KtbxLthNPsswdGjwZhDhqMMTPvwXWqzhHL?projector=1
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9arLNixB4
― dow, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:35 (six months ago) link
The "Hissing..." alternates and demos are beeeeyoooooootifulll
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:33 (six months ago) link
Joni came out for the encore of the Brandi Carlile & Friends show at the Hollywood Bowl tonight, seated on her royal throne flanked by Brandi and Annie Lennox (the other friends included Wendy & Lisa, Allison Russell, and the two singers from the band Lucius). They played “Shine” (which Brandi said was her favorite JM song), “Ladies of the Canyon” and “The Circle Game” with the whole crowd singing along to the chorus, the music ringing out through the night air, just a stone’s throw from Laurel Canyon. Absolutely magical.
― donna rouge, Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:07 (six months ago) link
I was there too - it was terrific.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 15 October 2023 07:41 (six months ago) link
Happy birthday, ma'am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYT_RMhvLA
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
Goodness. Some of the very early opinions on this site are unbelievable.
Happy birthday Joni
― Duke, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:18 (five months ago) link
ffs, you're not kidding, Duke. I had actually forgot how bad it could be back then.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:42 (three months ago) link
we paved livejournal and put up a fap zing lot
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link
This message board as a whole is the best reminder I have of what the internet was like in the early 00s. Basically just a bunch of what we’d now call hot takes (mostly attention seeking it seems) and name calling and a lot of people who felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link
Er, not “as a whole” implying that it’s the same now, but nowhere else do I consistently come across posts from 20 years ago that serve as a reminder of the above.
― zacata, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:50 (three months ago) link
“ felt freely open to criticize each other from behind a keyboard when I know if they ever ran into each other in real life not a word would be said”this is a good thing tho!!!!!!
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:01 (three months ago) link
Why is it a good thing? If you wouldn't say something to someone's face, you shouldn't say it to them online.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:26 (three months ago) link
insert that won't do emoticon here
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:53 (three months ago) link
xp political speech, /trenchant blah blah never mind me
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link
I guess I just meant “saying stuff” not “saying stuff TO ppl”, please disregard I don’t mean anything
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:37 (three months ago) link
Classic
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 4 January 2024 13:45 (three months ago) link
The legendary Joni Mitchell will perform her first Los Angeles headlining show in over 24 years at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, October 19 – joined by the Joni Jam. Pre-sales start tomorrow at 10 a.m. with password JJAM24. Tickets go on sale to the public Friday, February 2 at 10 a.m.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
I saw her a few months back at Hollywood Bowl with Brandi Carlile (where the "Joni Jam" portion was not explicitly advertised the way this one is).
They only did, I think, three of Joni's songs. Joni herself was not in great shape. She was very much buoyed by all the women surrounding her (Brandi, Annie Lennox, Allison Russell, a few others). Annie Lennox especially. Nevertheless the pure joyousness of the atmosphere was incredible, and I'd imagine a full set would be wonderful.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:58 (two months ago) link
Just noticed that both Joni and Neil are back on Spotify.
― meatster of puppets (peace, man), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:54 (four weeks ago) link
Yep. After Neil Young saw that Joe Rogan and his misinformation podcast was now available from multiple outlets and he didn’t want to boycott them all, he decided to go back on Spotify. Then Joni did the same.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:00 (four weeks ago) link
'joni back on streaming' status update:
"sex kills" back in regular rotation, as the natural of things should be.
ps-hi alfred. you defend "sex kills" for your reasons stated above (all of which are good) , but also because we all know it's some of her best work. ♡i heart complainy joni♡
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 1 April 2024 23:48 (three weeks ago) link
What's bad from this era are a lot of finger-pointing songs about societal ills and the media. She'd written songs like this throughout her career, but at this point they became scolding and self-righteous.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:09 (three weeks ago) link
total banger.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:14 (three weeks ago) link
I don't mind scolding and self-righteousness when the groove is food.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:20 (three weeks ago) link
And good food.
Is justice
Just.. ice?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:37 (three weeks ago) link
Are notifications
Not if I cat ions?
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:38 (three weeks ago) link
I dislike "Sex Kills", me, but it does seem to me to be a rejoinder to/echo of Prince's "Sign O The Times", throwing some mutual respect back at the guy, which I like
― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:42 (three weeks ago) link