Beethoven Was Black

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...and he had an East Coast/West Coast thang against his rival DJ Mozart and the East Vienna Wreckin' Kru!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

The Dutch are well know for their close resemblance to Africans.

Have you seen my nose?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 5 May 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

KRS-1 to thread!

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

No. 32 is really quite odd, almost jazzy in places - in fact I would not have been surprised to learn that Ludwig was known as Jelly Roll Beethoven at the time!

Yeah, first time I heard some of those variations in movement II, I wondered if the pianist was, um, "taking liberties", until I checked with the score.

― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

I have heard this too. All I know is I don't see many portraits of white dudes from back then with hair like that!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 05:56 (twenty years ago) link

When he was a child the other kids teased him and called him a mongoloid because he had a big head and a rudy complextion.
Then he grew up and became one of the greatest musicians/composers of all time, mostly while going deaf.
He fucking showed them.

― Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 06:48 (twenty years ago) link

is this supposed to be geir-bait?

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 07:23 (twenty years ago) link

dadaismus, i agree with you. i don't own herr beethoven's complete sonatas, so last summer i borrowed a friend's box. beautiful sweetness all the way through to the end. and, the end is jazz. anyone curious should give no. 32 a listen. it's an uncanny preminition of a genre born more than a century later and a continent away.

― j.a.e., Tuesday, 6 May 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link

woah guys, next thing you know, you'll be sayin' Martin Gore is partially black, too!

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

You evil man, DB. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:35 (twenty years ago) link

woah guys, next thing you know, you'll be sayin' Martin Gore is partially black, too!
Don't believe the hype: that blonde hair isn't real! He's actually 1/4 Puerto Rican. He's really Martine Gonzalez!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

GREAT COMPOSER IN NATURAL RHYTHM SHOCKER!

― Adam A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

Almost two years on and I'm working my way throught the Sonatas again, non-chronologically this time. I really like No. 17. Not one of his more "urban" sonatas however.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 21 January 2005 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Beethoven was Black Country

― Stevem On X (blueski), Friday, 21 January 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link

... you mean he was a bit like Ray Charles, 'cept he was deaf instead of blind?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 21 January 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

#32 does invent jazz in that amazing variations section.

― Bumfluff, Friday, 21 January 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I've not got a hideous vision of the conductor turning to the audience at the end and proclaiming " . . and dats da ja-a-a-a-a-zzzzzz!"

― why must we cut onions? (Lynskey), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

The sherzo of the 9th is some crazy jazz-funk shit (until that landler type melody comes in)

― Bumfluff, Friday, 21 January 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

scherzo

― Bumfluff, Friday, 21 January 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I've not got a hideous vision of the conductor turning to the audience at the end and proclaiming " . . and dats da ja-a-a-a-a-zzzzzz!"
Or even bettah...

Three bursts of french horn followed by a funky mandolin riff...
Conductor/Bandleader: Get Up-ah!
Chorale Singers: Get on UP!
Conductor/Bandleader: Stay on the Scene!
Chorale Singers: Get on UP!
Conductor/Bandleader: I'm a conductin' machine!
Chorale Singers: Get on UP!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 23 January 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

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