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Ho ho ho ho, SNAP!

nabisco%, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

What's sad is that Troll probably missed that. :(

nabisco%%, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The phrase "dumbing down" = does exactly what it says on the tin

jamesmichaelward, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Isn`t this fascinating. It`s like Groundhog Day! I make me assertion, and the waggon containing `da boys` speeds round to the thread, all with exactly the same stance on the issue! My central hypothesis is that `dumbing down` is being engineered for 3 reasons: 1. Because pushing the lowest up towards the highest is difficult. 2. Because the government needs `success` figures in things like GCSE results so the paper becomes the old eleven plus exam. 3. Left wing social engineers who want their constituency to get their fingers in as many of the `elite` pies as possible. This is ok, until your brain surgeon says "duh.....er.... I can`t do the operation, it wasn`t covered on me NVQ brain surgery course!" (sound of screeching wheels?)

Troll, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

DG. Good question: for me it would be the Victorian era. (but then you probably woulda guessed that...right?!) And Nabisco - oooooh, you are SO threatened!! Whassup? Never met a Tory with a brain before? (dreads biting and cutting responses)

Troll, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why not drop this "ooh you are all so scared of me" routine, and actually talk about the things you claim to want to talk about? The Victorian Era was of course the highpoint of liberal social engineering in British history.

mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Troll -

Most people on the thread are pissing about and ignoring you - who exactly has the "same stance" and would you care to summarise it?

Also at some point you ought to realise that saying "I've heard that argument before" isn't actually much of a reply.

So - what institutions specifically? The House of Lords? Oxford University? Eton College? Bolton Sixth Form College?

Billygoat, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My point is - why not invest in `clevering up` instead of `dumbing down`. I refer to things like TV shows aswell as qualifications etc. I think it makes sense to pull up the under-achiever rather than pull down the over-achiever. Surely not a controversial view?

Troll, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

If the Victorian era represents the high point of British 'excellence', surely the subsequent (mythical) 'dumbing down' of British institutions isn't exclusively, or mainly, the work of "left wing social engineers"? Why didn't Thatcherism, for example, effectively repudiate/reverse Murdoch's cultural 'dumbing down' of the fourth estate, and in particular that 'great' British institution, the Times?

Andrew L, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

But what if 'dumbed down' TV etc.* is what the ordinary average British want? Why champion their viewpoint at the ballot box but not at the remote control?

*Did anyone else watch How Not To Get On Big Brother last night and come away really despising the producers?

Billygoat, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

TV is only as dumb or smart as the person watching it

dave q, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Troll you keep getting on me for asking you questions, questions you'll have to answer to make much sense to those outside the UK for whom your vague codings ("the altar of inclusion") don't really point to much. As for your central question here, which is basically apolitical, I'm not sure how your requests to "clever up" connect with your assertions elsewhere that the west is dominated by a lentil- eating liberal elite: wouldn't a top-down "clevering up" basically involve those elites telling your "average English person" to ... well, eat some lentils? (To which, in your conception of the world, they should theoretically respond with righteous indignation and BNP protest votes?)

Or can we just put it down to the entirely apolitical complaint just about all educated people have -- that the culture and entertainment around them are aimed at a populous less educated than they are? This is a complaint that's rarely worth voicing beyond a grumble, unless you're okay with the idea of an elite cultural oligarchy whereby builders are left nothing to read on the toilet apart from the London Review of Books. The only way you'll clever people up is the blindingly obvious way: better education in better schools.

By the way I suspect you've misinterpreted my "Troll probably missed that" comment: I was referencing moderator typo-correction hijinks above, which you'd have had to look at the thread during a particular five-minute span to have caught.

nabisco%%, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine years pass...

"sending malicious communications" - i wondered what they'd actually done him for. dunno how i feel about this, guy obviously has issues but otoh don't think i'm comfortable with magistrates drawing the line in future

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Duffy's lawyer Lance Whiteford said he could offer no mitigation but that Asperger's and alcohol abuse went some way to explaining why he committed the offences.

(something about ilx etc)

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

proof of diagnosis or give him another 3 months imo

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4

am0n, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14898564

Once Were Moderators (DG), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

Thinking about this, don't Littlejohn's "People's Prostitute" piece or Jan Moir's "Gately Died of Gay" meisterwerk leave themselves open to prosecution seeing as they're widely available on the internet?

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

they'd probably enjoy the 'persecution'

Once Were Moderators (DG), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Sean_Duffy-1.jpg

WI Congressman and famed internet troll Sean Duffy

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

Dommy P better get himself a good lawyer

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

holy lol

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

kind of offended that the Mail are confusing the noble art of trolling with "being a stalky psycho"

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:39 (eleven years ago) link

Internet troll: Frank Zimmerman, 60, of Gloucester, leaves Gloucester Magistrates Court, after his sentencing was delayed

buzza, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

Does an internet troll live under a network bridge?

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a link to that story not from the Mail?

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/08/louise-mensch-troll-face-jail

he's still an idiot no matter who's reporting on it...

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

Well, the Mail are still fascists no matter what story they're reporting. Not giving them clicks.

But yeah, wow. Had heard about a vague upset with an internet nutbag, but this guy sounds like a proper psycho.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

sophie's choice seems to have overtaken catch 22 in the overused literary allusion stakes

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

in fairness he was working to a closer def'n of its original meaning than 95% of ppl who invoke it

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Addressing her as the "slut of Twitter", Zimmerman said: "We are Anonymous and we do not like rude cunts like you and your nouveau riche husband Peter Mensch. We are inside your computer, all your phones everywhere and inside your homes.

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link


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