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oh and just for the record i don't play anymore and haven't touched a card in about four years.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

if you're going to play magic, you MUST play by tournament rules.

Why? I mean, in a tournament of course you do, but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tournament rules are for people who actually know all the instant-kill power card combinations. And tournament rules are constantly changing because people figure out new ones.

fletrejet, Thursday, 23 January 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

but what about those of us who are, err, "casual players" as it were and just want a nice game to waste some time with as opposed to a weapon to "consistently trounce educated adult men with high-paying jobs"?

dude i was like fifteen ...

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I sold all my cards to some dork for like $20.
I still sometime would like to play, but alas; it is too expensive.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

dude i was like fifteen ...

Haha, maybe that was a bit too nasty on my part, but still- why not play any way you bloody please (or was that "You MUST..." comment just the way you saw it when you were 15?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

If we judge a game by its players, and I judge this by the few people I've ever met or seen who play it, it's as dud as it comes. (This is not meant to comment on the people here, none of whom I have met.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to play... PROFESSIONALLY. How sad is that? You can make good money at it to be honest. The saddest thing most times are people who play it. It's 90-95% male, they're all super homophobes too. I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition.. and to get pictures of me in em in Magic publications (yes, there are a few). I enjoyed the game and the rules, and I met some good people along the way. The best part about Magic players is that they are willing to play almost anything.. so once you get fed up with Magic (which everyone does), they will try any other activity or game (Set, Settlers of Cataan), and jump on it.

I'm going to be branded a geek now.. aren't I?

Christopher (Christopher), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is an internet message board Christopher = we are all geeks.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's fun, if you have money to waste and friends that don't take it seriously.

webber (webber), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to wear t-shirts that implied I was gay just to mess with the competition..

Let's count the ways we could parse that sentence, hmm?

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let's make that a little clearer... heh.

A lot of Magic players are homophobic (in my experience) and in order to throw them off of their game, I would wear a shirt that symbolized gay pride.

What's really scary is that I'm thinking about playing in a sealed deck PTQ in a couple of weeks just to see if I can still compete after not playing for years.

Christopher (Christopher), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Who up in this bitch fancies a game of memory M:TG*? I'm bored.

* (the one where you start with no cards in your card, draw one of your choice per turn, and no card can be played twice? It's kinda fun...)

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 18 April 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to play a lot around 14-16 and did pretty good, but when I think
of all the money I spent on cards that just sit in boxes up in my closet
I get all teary-eyed. Those should be records sitting idle, not cards!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 18 April 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud as hell. When I was 12 or 13 or so I went with my friend (who was into Magic cards at the time) to a Magic the Gathering "tournament" being held at the local Barnes & Noble. While my friend was playing Magic with someone, I walked around watching the others in attendance. At one table this guy playing said something like "I'm playing the Wall of Flame card". This other guy at the table said, "I'm gonna play the Wall of Pubic Hair card, hehehehhehe" in this horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voice. That was when I realized that there were people far nerdier than I could ever be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
The game itself = Classic: it will be around for years to come, probably our nerdier kids will be into it or some incarnation of it.

The "90-95% super homophobe" players mentioned above = DUD. If I was rich (xpost it's expensive xpost) I'd probably play Magic Online, and not have to see the fat guys with "horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voices" that unfortunately define the game.

Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't believe I never posted to this thread. I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

i've been having a lot of "fun" playing with the old cards I rescued from my mom's house. i refuse to spend another cent on the game, however.

ian, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

a couple years ago i went to a card & comix shop and built a decent blue-white deck for like $4.00, but all the newer card editions just had all these new retarded esoteric abilities that i had no idea about

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

also, the art was all these, like, cyber dragons and BULLSHIT

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

http://images.boardgamegeek.com/images/pic93875_t.jpg

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

8/8

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I did just finish four or five matches and won a couple. I smoked some blue/artifact guy who for some reason blocked my legendary with deathtouch with his 8/8 trample artifact and ended up in a deadlock with some all-wolves deck

mh, Sunday, 26 February 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

I think I snuck in a Dreadhound/Ghoulcaller’s Harvest combo in, too.

Love to damage an opponent by killing my own guys

mh, Sunday, 26 February 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

wolves decks are hard to beat and kinda boring, though some of the more bonkers wolf guys are at least funny

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 26 February 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

they slap down that guy who lets you draw more wolves and I start groaning

mh, Sunday, 26 February 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

placed 2nd in a private pauper gathering this weekend

mono red blitz ftw!

corrs unplugged, Monday, 27 February 2023 11:25 (one year ago) link

I don't read the spoilers in advance anymore so let me just say this format has been full of me reading the text of some rare a few times and going "yeah there's actually nothing I can do about that, gg"

putting first strike and deathtouch on the same creature just feels wrong to me. especially a 3-drop 3/3 that ALSO has another ability. don't even get me started on the 4 mana 5/5 that you can't even deal damage to

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link

yeah, that 5/5 is obnoxious

I am looking forward to the day where I drop a Meathook Massacre on that stupid thing

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

I started playing in like 1998 I think. I was 12. Ice Age and Alliances were the most recent sets. Back then there just weren't a whole lot of cards around so we did this thing in our group where we allowed people to make up their own cards on printer paper and play 2 copies in their deck. And of course some people would design the dumbest shit like "2R for a 3/5 flying, first strike, 2: deal one damage to any target" which our group would have to veto. But they really do design cards like that now. I guess it all started with Spiritmonger, the instant I saw that I was like "wow, that's insane and probably bad for the game"

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

I threw in the towel around Eldraine, but the steady rise of feel bad cards started well before that for me

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 27 February 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

the shit that broke me was playing against endless wilderness reclamation/nexus of fate decks

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 27 February 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

thats like the complete opposite from undercosted/bloated creatures though. was a brief moment of magic decks playing like what they were in the late 90s / early 00s

ciderpress, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

yes, thanks for reminding me why I don't post here

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 27 February 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

I remember around the time I started, Fallen Empires was the current expansion. It was kind of a dire time to get into mtg, because they had realized that some things were insanely overpowered and seemed to be paranoid about creating anything that’d break the game. There were some interesting bits, but overall, it was an underpowered and boring set. And magic had just gotten really big, so they printed eight zillion cards.

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

i really like the visual look of the cards in that set at least. i remember stores sold packs of it really cheap but it still wasnt worth it

ciderpress, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link

looking it up now and Fallen Empires packs are going for $15 apiece, nothing in them is particularly valuable (Rainbow Vale is 7 bucks) so I guess it's just a nostalgia thing. though it's hard to tell if any of these are actually selling. iirc Homelands was even worse, just a real weird era of Magic design where the cards were not only underpowered but also had basically no utility. some of that bled over into Ice Age, I remember cards like Balduvian Shaman and Ice Cauldron that were so wordy and strange and when you actually did figure out what they did you realized they were essentially useless. I remember Necropotence seeming like that too until a few months later when some guys were like "wait a second, this is insane"

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

I mean they went through the trouble of doing the snow-covered land thing which is inherently confusing especially since there was very little benefit to them, especially compared to the number of cards which would punish you for them. One of my early Magic memories was playing snow-covered Forests cuz they looked cool only to lose to something which randomly had "snow-covered Forestwalk"

all this makes the Urza's stuff so surprising, idk if the game was flagging around then (didn't Tempest block do well?) but good lord, some of those cards were just obviously insane. I remember coming back to the game and seeing cards like Tinker and Time Spiral and wondering what the hell was going on in the design room.

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

Ice Age at least seemed cool at the time. I can’t remember if it was the first time they made an expansion that was also standalone, in that you could buy both decks and boosters and they included land

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

not to mention it had Scaled Wurm, a 7/6 (!!!!) for the low low price of 8 mana. most importantly it was a common. god, I still remember scouring the store's box for 4 of those, plunking down two quarters, putting all 4 in my deck, not being able to cast one until like eight games in, and then immediately having it die to a Terror

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

lmao

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

I wonder if kids today still experience the joy that comes from actually getting that one card in play that you always wanted to

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link

do kids today still play magic i assumed they shifted to making it for former kids like every other media property

ciderpress, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

yeah, I think there are a bunch of card games kids are more into

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

My Hero Academia seems to be a big one at the moment

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 27 February 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

you could just be making up a ridiculous name there and I’d have no idea

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

I started real early and got out around the time of Ice Age, I remember it seeming boring in comparison to the previous sets (Legends, the Dark, etc), lol.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 27 February 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

yeah, it was only interesting compared to Fallen Empires lol

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

I was just thinking of The Dark, which kind of had some themes but was mostly a collection of weird cards

mh, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

xp ah that makes sense if theres a card game for that. honestly have no idea what the media landscape is like for tweens or teens now besides anime. magic's aesthetics are rooted in stuff that hasn't been cool for a minute

ciderpress, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

i had this book as a kid which had every card up through 1996 and probably did a lot to save me from wanting to buy packs of those weaker mid 90s sets
https://i.imgur.com/BYd90jT.jpg

ciderpress, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

lol I had a friend who had that, I totally remember scouring those sets looking for secretly broken cards and coming up with nothing

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link

do kids today still play magic i assumed they shifted to making it for former kids like every other media property

― ciderpress, Monday, February 27, 2023 10:45 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

from like age 12-19 there was this card shop I hung around pretty frequently with a bunch of kids around the same age (and some who were older), just messing around playing Magic and other games, hanging out, wasting time, etc. a lot of those people are still friends! but I do wonder if they still have shops like that anywhere. I visit local stores every so often and it's a bit depressing how there's never anyone in there anymore outside of like, FNM or whatever. back in the day it seemed like there were always people around.

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

Moodles I hate wilderness reclamation too fwiw

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 27 February 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

real kill or be killed vibe to this set. you either have to get a bunch of insane rares or build a tight aggro deck that constantly applies pressure. all the durdley proliferate stuff is okay but a lot of times these games just end with you getting trucked by a really stupid planeswalker. seriously I feel like 2/3rds of the decks in this set have one, it's absurd.

frogbs, Monday, 6 March 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

There's several PW in the rare slots this set, which might explain that. I'm guessing there's a story reason for it. I was only able to make proliferate matter in poison decks, where obv it helps. In a lot of RG decks, adding a counter to your permanents really doesn't matter (eg the game is usually over before Lattice Blade Mantis makes its third hit).

I think I've had my fill of the format for the reason you mentioned. Too focused on aggro, too punishing to fall behind, in spite of being fun to play for a few weeks or so

Vinnie, Monday, 6 March 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

ILX magic players, how do you feel about WotC sending literal Pinkertons to harass somebody at their home because they accidentally received cards before release date and made a youtube about it?

https://kotaku.com/mtg-aftermath-leaks-pinkertons-wotc-magic-the-gathering-1850368923

ian, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:33 (eleven months ago) link

yeah its pretty fucked up

ciderpress, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:07 (eleven months ago) link

insanely fucked up and the details are like… pinkertons?! for fucking magic the gathering?!

mh, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:55 (eleven months ago) link

they've been weird about spoilers for a while. I remember back in like 2002-2004 this dude on a forum named "rancored_elf" would post spoilers as apparently he had an inside man. WoTC wound up suing him into oblivion and basically ruining his life. I remember him being like "they could've just asked me to stop"

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:25 (eleven months ago) link

iirc it ended ok for him but apparently they really brought out the heavy artilery

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:26 (eleven months ago) link

i was just astounded that Pinkerton still existed

H in Addis, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

I really know nothing about this game, except now this

Post Malone pays fan $2m for Magic: The Gathering 'One Ring' card

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66399865

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 August 2023 18:40 (eight months ago) link


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