BEST EPISODE OF CLASSIC ALBUMS

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THIS IS THE BEST SHOW EVER. FLEETWOOD, STEELY, FLOYD AND U2 EPISODES ARE SOOOOOOO GOOD. SUCKY ONES INCLUDE: STEVIE WONDER (eXCEPT WATCHING HIM PLAY DRUMS IS PRETTY AWESOME) AND PAUL SIMON WAS BORING!! GRATEFUL DEAD AND NIRVANA IVE SEEN A MIL TIMES BUT DONT REMEMBER THEM. I AM VOTING FOR THE MOTORHEAD EPISODE. PHILTHY IS *AMAZING* IN THAT@!#!@!@!@ WHO KNEW THERE WAS A TAP DANCER TRACK ON ACE OF SPADES. ALSO DAVE BROCK IS IN IT!!

chaki, Friday, 19 October 2007 08:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Voted "A Night At The Opera" because it made me love the album even more. The Steely Dan and Pink Floyd ones were great too though, not least because of Donald Fagen being his usual sarcastic and ironic self. :)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 19 October 2007 08:45 (sixteen years ago) link

motorhead one killed it.

haitch, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

RU
MOURS

electricsound, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:47 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i've only seen three (rumours, the queen one, transformer) but they were all really really good

electricsound, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The Meatloaf one seems to be the one that's always on VH1 UK.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the DVD of the Sexpistols one.

Steve Jones hosts a guitar masterclass as one of the extras.

Mark G, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

geir, what involvement did donald fagen have in the pink floyd episode?

Charlie Howard, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

DF: "Yeah, that Pink Floyd album was really Interesting and Exciting!! hur."

Mark G, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

XP: Zilch. It was a clumsy sentence. :)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Nevermind. Butch Vig at the control board talking about the record he produced was really cool.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Purple or Maiden. Then again those are the only two I've seen.

Bill Magill, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

The Motorhead one is good as a series of anecdotes - Philthee nearly breaking his neck, punch up with a gang of trouble makers at a German gig, etc. - but low on tech details.
The Pink Floyd one is good for the way it goes into how they recorded the album - confirms Gilmour as the most boring person alive though.
Simply Red = a hour of looking at Hucknall's smug face.

snoball, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

This show rules, especially the Steely Dan and Meat Loaf episodes. And chaki's right that the Stevie Wonder one is definitely the most disappointing. I'm probably gonna vote for Phil Collins, though, just because that was the episode that most made me want to hear an album I haven't heard (I liked the singles and wanted to hear it before, but the show really made me want to hear it).

This list doesn't include the latest episode, for Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, which I haven't seen yet.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't really hate the Stevie episode. I mean, chaki's right: how often do you see extended footage of Stevie drumming???

I voted for Rumours – besides the obvious virtues, I really admire how these people STILL manage to say a few half-interesting things about an album they and everyone has discussed 67,890 times since 1977.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

The Band episode was pretty stunning, for John Simon's insights, for Levon being Levon, for Danko's heartbreaking solo "Unfaithful Servant," and for Garth's keyboard playing in lieu of an interview. But Robertson's pompousness is absolutely off the charts, and he's pretty much unbearable to watch/listen to.

So I gotta go with the Who's Next episode, not just because it's the best record in the series, but because there is no better interview in rock than Townshend. And Daltrey's explanation of Moon's genius (while messing with the multitrack of "Behind Blue Eyes") is beautiful.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I love the stuff in the Who's Next episode with Pete and Roger behind the boards. I think I've only seen bits and pieces of that episode, but if I'd seen all of it it might be my favorite.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

MORE LOVE FOR THE PISTOLS EPISODE!

Mark G, Friday, 19 October 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, fuck. I voted for Rumours before I remembered The Band's brown album one.

Oh, well. I'll say The Band would be my No. 1 were it not for Jeff Goldblum Robbie Robertson's interview portions.

Went with Rumours for Stevie telling the camera how she gave up so much and she's still here. Also, Lindsey Buckingham highlighting in solo Nicks' anguished background vocals on "Gold Dust Woman".

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

the mixing board stuff is always classic

da croupier, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

otm

latebloomer, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Fagan & Becker highlighting Michael McDonald's "Peg" vox.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

lol daniel lanois at the mixing board with bono saying "look i know you want to talk right now but just be quiet and listen" was classique

chaki, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

A really badass bonus feature on the DVD would be a ROM feature where you were given a mixing board for one of the songs and got to play around with it like they do.

da croupier, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the Grateful Dead episode actually the Anthem of the Sun to American Beauty DVD? Do they sometimes cover wide swaths of an artist's career, rather than just one album? I think that the Anthem to Beauty DVD is in this series. The short interview with the artist that painted the cover for Anthem of the Sun is so great, he stares bug-eyed at the camera and talks about watching the Dead on New Year's on hallucinogens and having a vision of the band as a 6 headed hydra. There's some cool live footage and also snippets from their appearance on Playboy after Dark. Classic!

Trip Maker, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Fagan & Becker highlighting Michael McDonald's "Peg" vox.

How the fuck did they sit so stone-faced through it?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i thought they chuckled

chaki, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

no, Becker had a hairball stuck in his throat.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

What do you expect--they're Steely Dan for god's sake.

JN$OT, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the aja one wins

omar little, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

thread prompted me to find this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCZv7786KY

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

motorhead, followed by the sex pistols. i liked the steely dan one, though they're terrifyingly anal.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

fast eddie seems like such a nice fellow.

chaki, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Going through the alternate guitar solos for "Peg" was pretty uncomfortable for Becker, Fagan, and the viewer.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the hilarious bonus section where Lemmy describes getting fired from Hawkwind.

snoball, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

its very sweet. he said he would've never quit hawkwind. he loved it.

chaki, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

All in 3-D. Foreign movie.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 19 October 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Love The Band and The Bollocks episodes. Love how at the end of the bonus guitar lesson when Steve Jones says "Wait, I'm showing you how to play 'Anarchy'!" and stops playing and cradles his guitar protectively.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 19 October 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Pity no Bowie album yet though. I believe another series of classic albums documentaries did "Ziggy Stardust" though.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 19 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

wait this is a show

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 October 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

And, you know, I'd love to see "Selling England By The Pound" too, but at least I will get a "mini documentary" on that one when the remaster is being released next spring. The producer and engineer will not be around for that though (shame, really, that Genesis didn't bring people like David Henschel and Hugh Padgam around for those remaster interviews. Would have loved getting their views)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 19 October 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

the aja one wins

is anyone else a little bothered by the repeated recorded-for-the-show band footage? i mean, it's fine and all, but not a patch on the original recording, and it seems like it's just there to pad out the running time. i seriously can't imagine that Fagan didn't have more to say about aja.

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 20 October 2007 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Love this show - wish I'd caught more than a half-dozen eps. (Only ones I remember: Kiss Alive, Ace of Spades, Joshua Tree, Nevermind, Rumours, Metallica.) Very informative - the entire procedure of record-making fascnates me, even as regards albums I have no use for, namely Metallica and U2.

Like snoball said, altho the Motorhead episode was tremendously entertaining, Fleetwood Mac takes it. The tech details themselves were excellent, of course, but the multiple-breakups backstory added an emotional element that the other episodes lacked. Oddly moving (and maybe a little self-serving) bit: Mick Fleetwood's assertion that he was as miserable as the other four, suffering relationship problems of his own.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 20 October 2007 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Well actually I said that the Pink Floyd one takes it because of the tech detail. Especially the bits with Alan Parsons at the mixing desk. But you're right that the Fleetwood Mac one is up there too, not only for the information on recording an album in an expensive LA recording studio in the 70's, but the feeling of "how the hell did these people produce an album when they all hated each other?". I think it's John McVie who recounts an argument where he said to Lindsey Buckingham "I think you'd better leave" meaning leave the room but LB thought JM meant leave the band and then did.

snoball, Saturday, 20 October 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

thread prompted me to find this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCZv7786KY

oh my god. that is astounding. i always knew he was a tremendous drummer, but holy shit.

Lawrence the Looter, Saturday, 20 October 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

The Pink Floyd one was pretty good, but if you want to talk about filler, try watching 20 minutes of London commuters placing one foot in front of the other to the tune of "Us & Them".

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 20 October 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"a night at the opera" for the live footage of freddie singing backing vocals for "'39" dressed in a jester's leotard alone

r1o natsume, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Has NMTB won yet?

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Lol @ Skeletor King Critic

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 12 June 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link

I was able to find a torrent for the Hysteria one with 2 seeds on it. Not sure if that one is avail legally in the US.

calstars, Sunday, 12 June 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

The Hysteria one is hilarious. The straining for significance is just agonizing. The drummer seems determined to live down his past and show he's particularly thoughtful. The singer says "there was this lick floating around and I heard it and thought, yeah, I can add this other part over it" about 3 times.

calstars, Sunday, 12 June 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

"Hysteria" unplugged is something no one needs to hear, but the singer and guitarist provide it anyway on dual Hummingbirds

calstars, Sunday, 12 June 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Pet Sounds! Tomorrow night on BBC2.

piscesx, Saturday, 23 July 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Okay, so the first season of Classic Albums started airing in 1997, and Rumours was a 20 year old record at that point... it's 2017 now, so where are the documentaries on OK Computer, or Urban Hymns, or Parklife, or Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space, or...

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link

I love you but you don't wannna know me
But I think you're great and I wanna see
I wanna see you
Smile into my face
Oh yeah

These could be the lyrics to the Black Keys' next single and no one would bat an eye

Wimmels, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Elton one isn't earthshaking but there's one good knob-twiddle scene within the last ten mins, where they isolate the backing vocals from Candle in the Wind, and it sounds *damn* good in an "Eagles warming up with Seven Bridges Road at the start of the doc" kinda way.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

Yes, it was really interesting to learn that Elton would just leave the studio and let the band arrange all the backing vox.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 28 November 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

De-lurk to say Steely Dan is the correct answer. Purdie though like. 2 other threads to post on now.

Alternative Ulsterbus, Saturday, 28 November 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

The Stevie ep is better than the Steely ep, fuiud.

On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 November 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

Many of these (all of these?) are on Amazon Prime, and I've caught up on some that I'd missed previously back in the days of dvd rental. I've long wondered, though... how in THEE EVERLOVING FUCK did Simply Red's Stars sneak into this series? Maybe it's renowned in the UK*, but Simply Red was dunzo in the US by that time.

*Wikipedia says yes, so I guess I've answered my own question.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:00 (three years ago) link

cos money was too tight to mention

Alternative Ulsterbus, Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link

ha yeah that one threw me for a loop too

Mick Hucknell does not suffer from low self-esteem

watching Goodbye Yellow Brick Road episode now, really enjoying it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link

love the Elton ep

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:07 (three years ago) link

the rumours ep is really something, there’s not much that the band members weren’t willing to share. gotta reconvene and film a tusk episode haha

there have been a bunch of episodes made since the poll was created, a memorable one was about sabbath’s paranoid. no real earth-shaking revelations, but they make a fun recurring bit out of asking geezer what inspired his lyrics and geezer giving the most deflating, matter-of-fact answer possible.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Does Blowey Hole have one of these?

calstars, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

xp Re: Tusk; this is a similar thing, made for BBC radio in 2012.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hxpxp

piscesx, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

challop: Every album should have a Classic Albums episode.

Like, as soon as you finish an album, you would be contractually mandated to have the producer and the most charismatic band member sit at a mixing desk and solo different parts and talk about how groovy they sound on their own, etc. Etc.

Then you should interview a crack session musician about how his or her part just "came together" on the first take. Preferably Nile Rodgers, but Jim Keltner will do in a pinch.

This should be required even if they did not in fact play on the album.

release the krakpots (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 28 November 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

Do we also need to have a close up of David Fricke's huge teeth?

It's interesting how the episodes reflect the personality of the band as well as the particular album. Upthread someone said that the Steely DAn episode was anal. Well so are Steely Dan. The Motorhead and Fleetwood Mac episodes also give a strong sense of what it would have been like to be in those bands.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 28 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

last two posts both otm

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Hah, yes, David Fricke is required

release the krakpots (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 28 November 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

Also required - totally unexpected appearance from an unrelated musician. I'd forgotten that the Steely Dan episode has Ian Dury in it. Also bonus points if you can get Bono to say how your album has "really influenced" him.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 28 November 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

Motorhead episode is such a pisser, i hate that they’re all gone now ;_;

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

David Fricke really, really looks like a Peter Bagge drawing.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 28 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

The Dark Side of the Moon episode is worthwhile. Remarkable how well I remember all of the tunes though it's been decades since I listened to the album.

that's not my post, Sunday, 29 November 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

The Elton one had a lot of scenes of producers pulling sliders up and down on the boards, the great heart of any great Classic

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 November 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

There was a show I thought was in this series that covered Anthem of the Sun and possibly the first Grateful Dead lp.

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

oh right, thought it covered more than one lp its Anthem to Beauty not just American Beauty

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

This here's a write-in vote for Rio

Soz (Not Soz) (Vast Halo), Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

also liked the catch a fire episode because it was a genuine revelation that the amazing organ and guitar parts of that album came courtesy of cornpone alabamans

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

Also required - totally unexpected appearance from an unrelated musician. I'd forgotten that the Steely Dan episode has Ian Dury in it. Also bonus points if you can get Bono to say how your album has "really influenced" him.

Which is the one that has the guy from Disturbed in it? Was he in the Songs from the Big Chair doc? (Was that Classic Albums canon or just some doc?) Anyway, I know Disturbed covered Tears for Fears, but no one cares what that guy has to say about it.

Some of the lesser ones, like the Judas Priest one, still have great stuff in it, like the revelation the album was recorded in Ringo's house and whichever song sounded like it had a marching army in it, that was just them rattling his silverware drawer.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

Just watched Transformer, Key of Life, Catch a Fire, and So episodes recently. Transformer's highlight was of course the Herbie Flowers bassline, which I had seen years ago and didn't realize was from this show. Key of Life could have been twice as long- maddeningly, it spends more time showing the reassembled band standing around than playing. The behind the boards stuff was some of the best of any of the episodes I've seen so far.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

whichever song sounded like it had a marching army in it, that was just them rattling his silverware drawer.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, November 29, 2020 3:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

one of my favorite details from classic albums! i think it was "metal gods"?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

Transformer's highlight was of course the Herbie Flowers bassline, which I had seen years ago and didn't realize was from this show.

The parts where they get Lou to sing the songs with acoustic guitar are absolutely hilarious, Lou can't get anything right - the singing, the phrasing, the timing, the guitar playing, the words.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

/pvmic

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

Look, how can you blame him? With all the time he no doubt spent practicing the Tai Chi he probably had next to nothing left to work on that other kind of thing.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

The three that I've liked most are The Band (probably my favorite), Steely Dan's Aja and maybe John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band.

Plastic Ono Band has the obvious disadvantage of Lennon being gone, but there's a lot of little things they do very well, like Ringo's role in album (with Voorman emphasizing "Ringo has taste, that's why he's a great drummer" and even Ringo dropping his usual aw-shucks modesty to show that he knows exactly what he's doing behind the kit). The most priceless info IMHO is when Arthur Janov explains how Lennon came up with "God is a concept by which we measure our pain."

As much as I enjoy Aja, it's not among my very favorite Steely Dan albums but Fagen and Becker are hilarious (not a given - their liner notes' attempt at humor usually fell flat) and thanks to the way Aja was made, there's plenty of good material for a doc. The “Deacon Blues” exchange was probably the funniest moment for me of any Classic Albums episode: “Those were the days when I was singing like Jerry Lewis. Remember that?” “Yes, that was a very fertile period for you.”

birdistheword, Sunday, 1 August 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link

Thought the Suede episode was amazing, especially seeing as I never liked Coming Up much after the giddy heights of the Bernard Butler era. Made me have a bit of a rethink all round.

piscesx, Sunday, 1 August 2021 10:14 (two years ago) link

I think I've only ever seen the one about Peter Gabriel's So (unless that wasn't actually this series?)

StanM, Sunday, 1 August 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link

ok - it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums

StanM, Sunday, 1 August 2021 10:27 (two years ago) link

Which is the one that has the guy from Disturbed in it? Was he in the Songs from the Big Chair doc? (Was that Classic Albums canon or just some doc?) Anyway, I know Disturbed covered Tears for Fears, but no one cares what that guy has to say about it.

The Songs from the Big Chair episode was great, some interesting stories and in-studio breakdowns of the songs. Can't remember if the Disturbed guy was in it, but if he was, it would have been a small part

Vinnie, Sunday, 1 August 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

The other thing I took from the "Transforner" episode was that Lou himself did not consider it a classic album, so he was not exactly the most engaged of participants.

Soundtracked by an eco jazz mixtape. (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 August 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

Because he thought it was more of a Bowie/Ronno thing that corrupted the purity of his vision?

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 August 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

And then later Ronno beat him out in the picker sweepstakes for The Rolling Thunder Revue.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 August 2021 12:41 (two years ago) link

It's possible he thought it was too much of a Bowie/Ronno thing, not about purity of vision tbh. I think his closing comments were, "It's just an album" *shrug*

Soundtracked by an ecojazz mixtape (Tom D.), Monday, 2 August 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

Lou's attitude to any album being singled out for praise would probably be: "Why, what's wrong with [other Lou Reed album]?"

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 2 August 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

Ha, yes, exactly!

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 August 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

The Bat Out of Hell episode is so great. I could watch Meat Loaf, Steinman and Rundgren talk for hours.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 06:43 (one year ago) link

love the opening with jim playing piano in a sick af cape

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 07:09 (one year ago) link


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