Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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A couple years back a friend of mine gave me the deluxe banana album reissue with the stereo and mono mix. Last weekend I hooked up my hi-fi and decided to listen to it again. I've managed to misplace the mono disc and so put in the stereo version.

On Femme Fatale the Lou back-up vocals ("she's a femme fatale") are barely audible, it might as well not be there, and on Sunday Morning there's a guitar part that's missing (during the swirly instrumental break I swear there used to be a chugging "lead" or whatever you call it over top the backwards sounding bit). Anyway, the question is: Is this supposed to be like this or have I botched the hook up of my stereo and have only one channel playing through both speakers?

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

test your stereo with white light/white heat. If either the music or the story are missing from "The Gift" then your stereo is mono.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

argh, I don't have white light/white heat

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Go out and buy white light/white heat. test your stereo with it. If either the music or the story are missing from "The Gift" then your stereo is mono.

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

before quibbling about stereo/mono differences, you might want to check that one out.
it's good.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

You probably don't have "The Murder Mystery" either, but if you did, you could check whether you had different storylines coming out off either speaker.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wait, you can use the first few seconds of "Sunday Morning" - the glockenspiel or what-have-you is on the right channel and then the bass comes in on the left.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

Or just check the wiring...

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

One of your speakers is out of phase i.e. you have the wires in the wrong way round.

MGrout, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

could be! I just threw the wires back there without any regard at all.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

are you sure you're a trainspotter?

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Behind my receiver is a dark and lonely place- I'll have to do this by candelight because I have no flashlight. All of you will be in my prayers!

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

not even a spelunker!

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

Agunaunt, I am defined by what I am not. My secret is out!

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

arg!

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

REVIVE!

UPDATE: My speaker wire was connected to the right main and right remote outputs. I fixed the problem.

I'd like to thank everyone who was with me from the beginning, without your help this project may have never been completed. I'm confident that with the teamwork displayed in the last couple of days our dream of sending an ex-member of the Velvet Underground to the moon will soon become a reality.

golden ears kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

EVEREST IS OUR FOOT STOOL

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought that was Everett?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

I go to school with J0hn C4le's daughter, 3d3n; she is kind've a twat.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

ian wins "post of the day" so far.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost:
Who's the mom, B3+53y J0hn50n?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

No, some other silly tart, Rise?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

This seems as good a place as any to ask this question ... has anybody bought that new VU seven inch singles thing that Sundazed just put out? I don't really want to buy it, BUT: the mix of "I Heard Her Call My Name" is apparently vastly different. Would like to hear this ... mp3 anywhere?

tylerw, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha I was wondering which thread to revive to discuss the "Nuns Are On The Seawall" blog...

i.e Velvets bootlegs S/D

the 'Ultimate Mono and Acetates Album' has some of those singles but not all. it does have the mono WL/WH which is really different at least on Lady Godiva's Operation, I guess I should listen to it. that may be the version of "Call My Name" you refer to.

also loving:

the Pre-VU Preview, all the demos of early 60's Reed/Cale pop music
Problems In Urban Living (Cleveland 68)
CDs from a certain minimalist composr who shall remain anonymous

sleeve, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got that Ultimate Mono Acetates thing -- from what I understand, this mix of "Heard" is unheard until now? Less of Lou's guitar, more of the band. Or something ... But anyway -- yeah! Pre-VU is crazy, really incredible. Drop in some references to methamphetamine and "Do The Ostrich" could be on White Light/White Heat, easy. Crazy that, according to the Unterberger VU Day By Day book, there's a solo version of "Heroin" recorded during the Pickwick era. Probably sounds similar to the versions on the 1st disc of "Peel Slowly" but I'd still love to hear it.

tylerw, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've got it on order, will let you know...

Mark G, Saturday, 10 October 2009 13:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

Cool!
Someone over on the Velvet Forum sez: "the mix of I Heard Her Call My Name is insane. At first I thought that there was a mistake in the pressing as Lou's opening vocals ("here comes count down...' ) are way down in the mix and actually sound muffled. Then they pick up a little with 'Ever since...'. Sterling's guitar is up and so it Cale's bass. For the first 30 seconds or so it sounds like a kind of lo-fi garage sound and then later the sound gets bigger with more of the impact we know. But overall the balance is restored so that you can hear Sterling's lovely rhythm guitar work and Cale's bass, which is really great. Cale's bass sound is amazing on this mix and then also makes you realised how low the bass is in the mix on most of the White Light LP."

tylerw, Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hmm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0847833550/ref=pe_5050_13305760_snp_dp
$189
Little bit annoying that they're putting out all of this collector-bait stuff these days and not putting out unreleased stuff. Or barely any unreleased stuff.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

A while ago, I did my own mix of "Heard Her Call My Name" with less Lou and more of the band just for fun, anyone can do it

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

ysi?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

From that Velvet Forum, here's a list of uncirculated VU stuff that seems to actually exist.

-The demo tape Cale took to England
-Summit High School tape
-Bizarre footage
-Delmonico´s tape
-Boston Tea Party footage(any news on this, by the way?)
-La Cave 68 tape
-Hippodrome 68 tape
-Nelson Video tape 70
-Rhode Island School of Design, Providence, Rhode Island
-May 11, 1965 Pickwick Studios, near Long Island City, New York
-Donald Jackson VU footage
-Danny Williams VU footage
-The Primitives tape
-Ronald Nameth Vu footage
-Matrix Tapes
-Seattle 69 tape

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't know how to do that! (xp)

-The demo tape Cale took to England

I'd be surprised if this still existed! Very! The Matrix Tapes is what we want!!!!!

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

xpost

what the hell is that? a 304-page hardback book, yeah, but what about the single with it?

hate it when Amazon has no info about the product.

and hey that Seattle 69 show is on the Nuns Are On The Seawall blog, it's listed as Retinal Circus. first new show (to me) to surface since the Gymnasium.

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

!!! Had no idea ... Thanks! Is it good?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

more from that Velvet Forum:
-the full Gymnasium tape
-the cale/sterling/reed rehearsals from cale loft 1966
-uncut recent Factory 66 tape

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

here's a list of uncirculated VU stuff that seems to actually exist.

i'm still hoping that footage of them on Upbeat! shows up somewhere. Lots of clips from that show are in circulation, but considering they made a handful of appearances i'm surprised nothing's around. About one of the shows: "The Velvets performed live on the Upbeat TV show in June 1968 (not June 1967). Moreover, contrary to Sterling Morrison's recollection, they performed a blistering, buzzsaw version of Run Run Run. Their rendition of Run Run Run went beyond their alloted time: thus, Upbeat cut away to a commercial while the Velvets were engaged in feedback frenzy with Lou's back to the camera."

city worker, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

that would be awesome. There was some comment (I think from Moe Tucker) that she couldn't believe, with all the cameras the Warhol crew had going all the time, no one just filmed a straight ahead version of one of the EPI shows.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is it good?

here's wl/wh:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8j4j7c

it's a soundboard!!! the only one I know of besides those Matrix tapes. as a result the vox are too loud and the guitars a bit subdued, but the overall recording is much clearer. I still think Problems In Urban Living (Cleveland Oct. 68) is my favorite live boot, love the guitar sound on that.

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's a flac btw

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Already downloading from The Nuns site ... So weird that this stuff just keeps showing up. One thing I'm super interested in (that hasn't seen the light of day afaik) is a studio version of "Beginning to See the Light" with Cale.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

WHAT????!??!

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

those Velvets Forum trainspotters mean business man.

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

But yeah, the "Beginning" with Cale is mentioned in the Unterberger book - recorded at the "Mr. Rain" session apparently? With "fuzz bass"? There was talk of it appearing on a projected WL/WH "deluxe edition, I think. Which never came out obv.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

LOL, yeah, obv.

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

But ... maybe now that this singles set has come out, there's a chance of more VU material coming out officially? I think I read that Lou wasn't into having any more live stuff come out.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hmmm, so I'm listening to this "Retinal Circus" VU show -- and I'm pretty sure some of these takes are the same as appear on Live 1969. Haven't a/b'd them or anything. It's an uncut tape of the show, though, which hasn't circulate as far as I know ... I think that those songs were thought to be from the Matrix, wonder what the deal is! MYSTERY. Sounds great, anyway.

tylerw, Friday, 16 October 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeh, the wh/wh posted above is the same as the version on the live 69 album

zappi, Friday, 16 October 2009 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

er wl/wh

zappi, Friday, 16 October 2009 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, same w/ "heroin", "what goes on", "new age" so far. it's funny to hear these songs w/ audience applause -- on 1969 they cut off almost immediately, sort of giving the impression that the VU was playing to barely anyone. But here they've got a totally enthusiastic crowd. And why not, considering the godlike awesomeness of this "What Goes On."

tylerw, Friday, 16 October 2009 21:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Egg Cream...o wait

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:13 (4 days ago) Permalink

all tomorrow's pastries

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2014 05:36 (4 days ago) Permalink

After Hors d'oeuvres

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:44 (4 days ago) Permalink

^A+

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:57 (4 days ago) Permalink

ham fatale

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:07 (4 days ago) Permalink

The Meringue Mystery

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:10 (4 days ago) Permalink

pale blue ice cream

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:10 (4 days ago) Permalink

White Wine/White Meat

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:12 (4 days ago) Permalink

Stephanie's eggs

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:29 (4 days ago) Permalink

European Flan

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:41 (4 days ago) Permalink

This is too long and too late but:

Then she sank down in her chair, grasped the fork by both hands, took a deep breath and plunged the long tines through the middle of the radicchio , through the middle of the crouton, through the endive through the bell pepper and right through the center of the cherry tomato, which split slightly and caused little rhythmic arcs of red to pulsate gently in the morning sun.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:48 (4 days ago) Permalink

The Marble Cake Index.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:51 (4 days ago) Permalink

I'm sure this has been posted but:

Oh Sweet Muffin

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:09 (4 days ago) Permalink

Also "Cheeses" (... help me find my proper place)

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:10 (4 days ago) Permalink

Juicing Down the Door

dan selzer, Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:31 (4 days ago) Permalink

for dessert

tylerw, Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:49 (4 days ago) Permalink

dessert? sure!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:52 (4 days ago) Permalink

Whip it on me

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 19:18 (4 days ago) Permalink

Quine crêpes

StanM, Saturday, 27 September 2014 19:59 (4 days ago) Permalink

"You've got to Shake it and Bake it/and say I helped/unless you want to lose that beat"

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 September 2014 22:05 (4 days ago) Permalink

looks like the official word?
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND -- 45TH ANNIVERSARY SUPER DELUXE EDITION,

A SIX-CD SET, COMMEMORATES BAND’S 1969 SELF-TITLED THIRD ALBUM

64-track six-CD package on Polydor/UMe includes legendary 1969 album, featuring several different mixes, live recordings from The Matrix in San Francisco, case-bound book and liner notes by David Fricke

Los Angeles, CA – September 24, 2014 – The Velvet Underground’s classic self-titled third album, released in March 1969, by MGM, was a departure from the band’s first two albums in more ways than one. Gone was co-founding member John Cale, and in his place was a 21-year-old with Long Island roots named Doug Yule, who stepped right in. The record was also a stylistic leap, as Lou Reed describes it in Rolling Stone editor David Fricke’s liner notes, “I thought we had to demonstrate the other side of us. Fricke calls it “a stunning turnaround… 10 tracks of mostly warm, explicit sympathy and optimism, expressed with melodic clarity, set in gleaming double-guitar jangle and near-whispered balladry. Or as the late rock critic Lester Bangs put it, “How do you define a group like this, who moved from ‘Heroin’ to ‘Jesus’ in two short years?”

How indeed do you describe an album which includes such classics as “Candy Says,” Reed’s ode to Warhol superstar Candy Darling; the aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule; the inspiring “Beginning to See The Light”; the spoken-word narrative and musique concrete of “The Murder Mystery,” and the beautiful Maureen Tucker-sung “After Hours”?

Celebrating its enduring longevity, Polydor/Universal Music Enterprises (UMe) will release The Velvet Underground – 45th Anniversary Super Deluxe Edition, on November 24, 2014. This 64-track, six-CD package is housed in a case-bound book and features several different mixes including the remastered stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a set of 1969 recordings, many of which were previously unreleased, from the Record Plant in New York City that were supposed to be the band’s fourth album, several of which ended up on Loaded and Reed’s first two solo releases, and unreleased live recordings from The Matrix in 1969.

The remastered Valentin stereo mix of The Velvet Underground will also be made available as a single-disc CD, on vinyl, and as part of the two-CD Deluxe Edition version with a 12-track audio bonus disc featuring the best of Live At The Matrix, taped on November 26 & 27, 1969. Digital versions of both the single disc “Valentin mix” and the six-CD, Super Deluxe Edition will also be available through other digital partners including MFiT and HD Audio formats.

The Velvet Underground was the first album produced and arranged by the band themselves. Disc One of this collection contains the album stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a veteran of sessions for Ella Fitzgerald and Stan Getz, recorded at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood, while the band was staying at the Chateau Marmont. The second disc features what Sterling Morrison dubbed “The Closet Mix,” which Reed described as a way to “get directly to somebody, unfiltered… So, if you listen to the record, it’s like sitting across from you.” This was the original version on the 1969 pressings of the album, later replaced by yet another Val Valentin stereo mix. The third disc features “the promotional mono mix” of the album, including a mono version of the first single, “What Goes On” b/w “Jesus.”

The fourth disc in the set offers a version of the never-to-be-released fourth album, recorded in October 1969 at the Record Plant in New York City, and intended to get the band out of its contract with MGM. The sessions include 10 previously unheard mixes - four original 1969 vintage mixes and six new mixes, including 2014 mixes of “Lisa Says” and “I Can’t Stand It,” and the original 1969 mix of “Ocean,” which eventually were re-recorded for Lou Reed’s 1972 self-titled solo debut. Also included are the original 1969 mixes of “Andy’s Chest,” which appeared in a different version on Transformer, and “Rock & Roll,” redone for Loaded.

The last two discs feature performances by the Velvets from their stay at San Francisco’s The Matrix, owned by Jefferson Airplane’s Marty Balin, on November 26 and 27, 1969. These performances are, for the first time, compiled and mixed from the legendary, original 1969 multi-track recordings made by club manager Peter Abram and now owned by the Velvet Underground. Tracks include a nearly 37-minute-long “Sister Ray” and a version of “There She Goes Again,” interpolating the opening guitar quote from Marvin Gaye’s 1962 hit, “Hitch Hike.”

Newest member Doug Yule describes the year best to Fricke in his liner notes, pointing to the band’s “cohesiveness and creativity and just great music. We were feeling good. All we had to do was play. And it showed. That comes out in a band. You get tight, and you get creative.”

The Velvet Underground – 45th Super Deluxe Edition offers the ultimate proof.

TRACK LISTING:

DISC ONE: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“The Val Valentin Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

DISC TWO: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“The Closet Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

11. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT (alternate “Closet Mix”)

DISC THREE: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

(“Promotional Mono Mix”)

1. CANDY SAYS

2. WHAT GOES ON

3. SOME KINDA LOVE

4. PALE BLUE EYES

5. JESUS

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT

7. I’M SET FREE

8. THAT’S THE STORY OF MY LIFE

9. THE MURDER MYSTERY

10. AFTER HOURS

Mono Single released April 1969

11. WHAT GOES ON

12. JESUS

DISC FOUR: 1969 SESSIONS

1. FOGGY NOTION (original 1969 mix) +

2. ONE OF THESE DAYS (new 2014 mix) +

3. LISA SAYS (new 2014 mix) +

4. I'M STICKING WITH YOU (original 1969 mix) +

5. ANDY'S CHEST (original 1969 mix) +

6. CONEY ISLAND STEEPLECHASE (new 2014 mix)+

7. OCEAN (original 1969 mix)

8. I CAN'T STAND IT (new 2014 mix) +

9. SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND (original 1969 mix) +

10. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER (new 2014 mix) +

11. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN (original 1969 mix)

12. FERRYBOAT BILL (original 1969 mix)

13. ROCK & ROLL (original 1969 mix)

14. RIDE INTO THE SUN (new 2014 mix) +

+ previously unreleased mixes

DISC FIVE: LIVE AT THE MATRIX

November 26 & 27, 1969 (Part 1)

1. I’M WAITING FOR THE MAN *

2. WHAT GOES ON *

3. SOME KINDA LOVE **

4. OVER YOU *

5. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER *

6. BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT **

7. LISA SAYS **

8. ROCK & ROLL **

9. PALE BLUE EYES *

10. I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE *

11. VENUS IN FURS *

12. THERE SHE GOES AGAIN *

DISC SIX: LIVE AT THE MATRIX

November 26 & 27, 1969 (Part 2)

1. SISTER RAY ***

2. HEROIN *

3. WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT **

4. I’M SET FREE *

5. AFTER HOURS *

6. SWEET JANE **

All mixes previously unreleased.

* previously unreleased performance

** different source mix of this performance appears on 1969: The Velvet Underground Live

*** different source mix of this performance appears on The Quine Tapes Box Set

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

Tracks include a nearly 37-minute-long “Sister Ray”

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:08 (Yesterday) Permalink

a version of “There She Goes Again,” interpolating the opening guitar quote from Marvin Gaye’s 1962 hit, “Hitch Hike.”
just like every version of this song! it's weird that that little bit of trivia is repeated everywhere.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah I lol'd at that too

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (Yesterday) Permalink

really only care about the Matrix shows, altho I don't fully understand what's different/new from what's on the Live 1969 discs.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (Yesterday) Permalink

Is this just poorly worded, because they make it sound like there's two Valentin mixes:

Disc One of this collection contains the album stereo mix by MGM house engineer Luis Pastor “Val” Valentin, a veteran of sessions for Ella Fitzgerald and Stan Getz, recorded at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood, while the band was staying at the Chateau Marmont. The second disc features what Sterling Morrison dubbed “The Closet Mix,” which Reed described as a way to “get directly to somebody, unfiltered… So, if you listen to the record, it’s like sitting across from you.” This was the original version on the 1969 pressings of the album, later replaced by yet another Val Valentin stereo mix.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

new 2014 mix

uh oh

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:14 (Yesterday) Permalink

^^Kanye verses added, no doubt!

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

think the 2014 mixes are replacing 1985 mixes

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

Yeah, they're de-'80sd or something.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;

ummmm

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:32 (Yesterday) Permalink

oh OK that might be a good thing xxp

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:45 (Yesterday) Permalink

xp durrrrr

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

see also Edward IIIs eloquent defense of the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix, he wrote abt it in the artist poll

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:05 (Yesterday) Permalink

_he aching love song “Pale Blue Eyes,” allegedly inspired by a girlfriend at Syracuse University who got away, with lead vocals by Yule;_

ummmm


Was it Shelly, the same one of "I Can't Stand It"?

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

Yeah, Doug Yule's ex-gf Shelly.

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix

? where would one hear this

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

xp ha yeah, i think it's supposed to be shelly, but doug definitely does not sing that one.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

Inspired by sterling morrisons electroshock therapy

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:01 (Yesterday) Permalink

Drummer Moe Tucker's testosterone-fueled beats

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:05 (Yesterday) Permalink

John Cale's well-documented struggle with pica informed much of the initial recordings

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

man my jokes always suck and yet i keep making them
never give up!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:09 (Yesterday) Permalink

I irl lol'd at pica

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:16 (Yesterday) Permalink

the Etc mix (i.e the original) of "I'm Sticking With You" vs. the VU remix

? where would one hear this

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:53 PM

http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-Etc/master/660580

used to be available via the "nuns on the seawall" blog

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:54 (Yesterday) Permalink

B-b-but does Doug sing the "Hitchhike" intro?

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:59 (7 hours ago) Permalink

BUT YOU GUYS THE MATRIX RECORDINGS WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU NIGGLING ABOUT THE PROMO BUMF FOR

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:04 (7 hours ago) Permalink

how come the only source I can google on this is a Norwegian press-release-regurgitation site? Nobody else picked it up after a week?!

(and how on ye olde green earth did you ever find it, Tyler?)

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:26 (7 hours ago) Permalink

Starting to think some college kid put that "Hitchhike" thing at the top of a syndicated Voice Media Group listicle called "Top 5 Things To Know About The Velvet Underground Before You Die."

Not surprised at tyler being hip to anything VU related very early in the game. Like if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos, I'd assume tyler and his blog would have the scoop.

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:29 (6 hours ago) Permalink

(that "Lead vocal by Doug Yule" thing looks like the sentence was about "Candy Says" but the "Pale Blue Eyes" bit got dropped in, badly)

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 06:48 (3 hours ago) Permalink

if some Freeport demolition team turned up Lou's lost bar mitzvah photos

That's weird, I was thinking about Lou's bar mitzvah yesterday (which is weird in itself).

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:22 (1 hour ago) Permalink


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