Erik Satie S/D

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So what Erik Satie should I start with? There were a couple different things called Piano Music at the store with different tunes.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

his nocturnes are nice

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

as are the gnossiennes

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Get all six Gnossiennes.

39 Steps + 40 Winks (39 Steps + 40 Winks), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sooo, would that be on six cds then?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

the 3 gymnopediaes or however it's spelled seem to be cited most often as a starting point

common_person (common_person), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like the later scores like Parade and Entr'acte cinematographique.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 16 April 2004 16:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

i'm interested in answer to this one, myself. one are the best recordings? when I look at satie in the record store i also get a bit scared since so much of it is filtered through new age crap.

jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

The CDs of his piano works done by Aldo Ciccolini are excellent. I have the one with the top hat picture on the cover (I believer it is called "Piano Works" or something generic like that) and it contains most of his famous/notable works.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

countless other threads on satie. but ciccolini seconded, start here.

(Jon L), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

You should be able to get a single CD with all three Gymnopedies and all six Gnossienes -- I think there's a Ciccolini one.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

Probably any recordings you'd find of Parade and Entr'acte cinematographique would be OK. They're large ensemble scores and haven't been recorded that often.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 16 April 2004 17:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Also look out for Le Picadilly

Jez (Jez), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

first person to mention "vexations" gets a chantilly pie in the face

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 17 April 2004 21:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

man, the covers to Satie recordings are beyond terrible. the pastel pictures of him with his bowler are attrocious, attempting to be playful in sort of hallmark card sort of way. that said, i took up the recommendation for the Piano Works 2CD thing on EMI played by Ciccolini and I like it quite a bit, proving once again, you shouldnt judge a book or a CD by its covers, especially considering the cover of Piano Works. YIKES!

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 18 April 2004 20:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

i got the full 'complete piano works' thing (5 cds) with ciccolini and, i must say, i find it kind of exhausting

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 18 April 2004 20:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

because of the way its played or because satie wrote short pieces not ment to be listened in one sitting all together?

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 18 April 2004 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

i got the full 'complete piano works' thing (5 cds) with ciccolini and, i must say, i find it kind of exhausting

those are later (1983-1986) re-recordings by ciccolini. the 2 CD piano works set compiles the original 1966-1971 recordings which introduced Satie to the record-buying public, I prefer the performances and the sequencing is more listenable.

(Jon L), Sunday, 18 April 2004 21:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...
Thanks to LTM I have Musique de la Rose-Croix/Pages Mystiques/Uspud on double-disc now. And it's extremely nice morning music.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

did anyone hear the CD of Vexations that came out last year?

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

and where's that pie?

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

i especially like his 'pieces froides'. also the 'gymonopedies' are really ambient.

he really is great. sometimes i like observing his music closely, while other times i'll throw him on in the backdrop

vexations, no haven't heard

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

did anyone hear the CD of Vexations that came out last year?

That was also on LTM? If so, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

yes, i think so

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

it was originally released on london records in 1990, reissued last year on LTM

favorite sundar thread ever Erik Satie - Vexations

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Erik Satie's Performance Indications

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

what is LTM, and what is that set ned?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

the Reinbert DeLeeuw versions/interpretations of Satie's piano pieces are stunning. he plays them all really slowly, bringing out the ambient qualities. there's a 2cd set on Philips i believe...he also did Vexations, which i think is vinyl only.

also seek out his 'Furniture Music'--orchestral ambient pieces way ahead of their time.

nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

also seek out his 'Furniture Music'

what release are those on?

DUMBOCLAAT (eman), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha, that vexations thread -- it reminds me of the old stylus piece wherein Todd Burns goes through the entire merzbox

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

i accidentally revived the vexatons thread milton linked.

radio 3 broadcast the entire vexations maybe 7 years ago. i think it started about 8.pm. i listened to a couple of hours of it.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

what is LTM, and what is that set ned?

LTM is a fantastically brilliant label that started off back in the early eighties as a quiet one-man operation releasing some of the obscurer post-punk stuff around, but now is mainly one of the best reissue labels for that time -- and earlier. Label boss James Nice has had a massive interest in futurism and avant-garde music for many years and over time has released more compilations and reissues of a variety of pieces under that rubric. There are a number of ILM threads on it but mostly we're talking about things like the Factory and Sarah label reissues. ;-)

Here's the label's homepage, and the Satie catalog is listed here. In the US and Canada, distribution is handled by Darla at very good prices.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

google says they broadcast 6 hours of it. roughly half of a live concert of the whole thing.

xpost to me

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Only 6 hours? Amateurs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

recently discovered the DeLeeuw Satie, it's great -- so slow, he plays the trills as discrete melodies, and every once in a while just completely... pauses. I was so used to the faster pace that the first time I heard it I felt like yelling 'wake up and play' but by the end of the 1st disc I was happily chilled

also always been fond of the France Clidat 3 disc set, for the opposite reason, it's like fast ballet, weird grace & precision, like your vision catching on individual snowflakes as they fall, absolutely worth finding (and paying what you might have to, it's out of print)

the easiest one to find is still the Ciccolini 2 disc 'Piano Works' on EMI, with the silly painting of Satie's smiling eyes on the cover, as Scott noted upthread

I actually don't like what I've heard of the Boran Gorisek performances at all, pompous, humorless, stomping ego all over the place, missing the point entirely. Though he does do a pretty great 25 minute version of Vexations, and I haven't heard the new 2 CD LTM reissue that Ned is giving the thumbs up to.

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh wow.

xp

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

Gymnopedie spotting:

small bit in Janet Jackson's "Someone to Call My Lover"

also, a *excellent* interpretation by Pine*am (it's on their myspace songs thing http://www.myspace.com/pineam).

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oddly enough, the other recent Satie reissue on LTM, Socrate + Melodies, arrived today in the mail. Handy timing!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

Not adding anything new, but I've got a CD of Ciccolini performances; chock full of smashing good stuff (and great titles, as well). Where should I go from there?

Bumblepuppy (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

i have this sinking feeling reading this thread that i'm about to spend a lot of money

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Akira Rabelais's renditions of the G's & G's are pretty good too.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

i am listening to the de leeuw right now, it has just arrived in the mail, it is lovely.

estela (estela), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

two additional favorites:

Francis Poulenc plays the music of Satie and Poulenc -- recorded in 1950, one of the earliest available recordings, though I think this was a disc you had to look for, not as well distributed as the later Ciccolini's on Angel. 42 minutes, great fidelity, Poulenc understands. Side 1 is Satie, side 2 is Poulenc & both are great.

Camarata did three moog + orchestra Satie records, velvet gentleman, through the looking glass and the electronic spirit of erik satie. the last one is the best, the cartoon moog solos playing the lead melodies, mixed just as loud as the entire orchestra, the sound makes you blink. Strange spoken word interjections, a Satie impersonator introducing the pieces, it's a great record

(& in my last post, I meant Jack not Scott, comedy)

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

closing tag

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

cool milton i was just about to ask about the poulenc one!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was so used to the faster pace that the first time I heard it I felt like yelling 'wake up and play' but by the end of the 1st disc I was happily chilled

i was used to it too except when i got the deleeuw version i realized that the faster pace was a mistake and here was how his pieces should've been played all along.

VVVVVVVVVVV (eman), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Look for the Debussy Orchestrations of the Gymnopedies and Gnossienes--very beautiful. Just start with the music for piano, there's a good CD that has a Miro painting on the cover, can't remember the pianist...

Iago Galdston (Iago), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dumboclaat:

here's the lp w/ the Furniture Music

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and, i just found mp3s here:
http://www.ubu.com/sound/satie_conceptual.html

nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

well I now have the LTM reissue (from Marks' 1987 performance) in my possession -- however it is 1 CD, 40 repetitions and 70 minutes. As Marks says in the notes, "it is just an introduction".

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's a good CD that has a Miro painting on the cover, can't remember the pianist...

that's the pascal roge


milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dumboclaat:
here's the lp w/ the Furniture Music
and, i just found mp3s here:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(messed my login up) thx nerve pylon, been wanting to hear this stuff for years and have never been able them on any cd/record. "ahead of their time" is an understatement.

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

yep--they're great. i looked for years for that lp, finally found it on eBay, it's not in very good shape (plus the postage from france!)--and now, there they are on the web. go figure!

nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

there wouldn't be a cd version somewhere? course not

i forgot to add, that version of "cinema" is far better than other recordings i've heard. it's a funny piece. kinda philip glass-y (only not annoying)

am0n (am0n), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

I really do seem to be accumulating a Satie collection almost without trying -- LTM's just sent their newest, Avant-dernières pensées, which is subtitled 'Selected Piano Works Vol. 1,' so presumably there's more on the way. Tracklisting:

Trois Gymnopédies
Gnossiennes 1-7
Je te veux
Caresse
Musiques intimes et secretes
Embryons desséchés
Le Piège de Méduse
Descriptions automatiques
Sports et divertissements
Avant-dernières pensées

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 June 2007 02:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I was also able to snag a compilation of the Ciccolini recordings on Angel via the Tower implosion last year, so that's been handy for a bit of contrast.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 June 2007 02:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

I would recommend his published journals, A Mammal's Notebook

Michael F Gill, Friday, 29 June 2007 02:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have the Yitkin Seow recordings on Hyperion. Really, really good.

poortheatre, Friday, 29 June 2007 05:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

how is that LTM disc, Ned? I'm a little afraid of the performer Goran Borisek, but have only heard other disc disc of his.

electronic spirit of erik satie by camarata, utter classic, full chamber orchestra with the leads played by loud moog. if you like perrey & kingsley and you like satie, you already love this record

Milton Parker, Friday, 29 June 2007 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

correction Bojan Gorisek

gettin my balkans confused

Milton Parker, Friday, 29 June 2007 19:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bojan Gorisek recorded the complete piano works of Satie for a label called Audiophile Classics that were released as a 10-CD box set and as individual volumes (I have two of the individual CDs). I suppose the LTM releases are reissues of some of those recordings. The ones I have are not bad - it's nice to hear some of the less familiar Satie pieces, including ones for voice and piano that are more in a cabaret-influenced style.

o. nate, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

There's still a link to some of them from the Amazon.uk page:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_m_h_/203-6608162-3103925?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=satie+audiophile&Go.x=14&Go.y=11

I have volumes 5 and 9.

o. nate, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

bamcquern, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

@ 4:33-5:28

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

behave yourselves, the monkeys are watching

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

want to start subversive public art campaign using erik satie performance instructions

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

oooooh i love Binaryland!

zappi, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

How I found Erik Satie:

Corn Maze to the Dark Side (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

That family fodder is really good. I like the rhythm at the start of it, when it's just piano.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I need to get that box you guys talk about upthread. I only have a one-disc piano thing. It's good and long, but too much of it is of those later parodies.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

full of subtlety, if you believe me

Milton Parker, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

'Apply yourself to renunciation'
'Behave yourself, please: a monkey is watching you'
'Coldly'
'Do not speak'
'Even duller if you can
'

geeta, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

'From a distance, bored'

geeta, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

satie-inspired desserts: http://www.scena.org/lsm/sm7-10/Desserts-en.html

geeta, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink


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