― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
― President Busch (dr g), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:33 (7 years ago) Permalink
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:49 (7 years ago) Permalink
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
Certainly true, but I still think possibly there might be an unintended good effect that comes from the scam.
Maybe.
Kinda.
Probably not.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
I'd never heard of Kinkade, but my prairie relatives reacted like I'd shaken hands with Elvis' personal syringe-filler.
― Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:21 (7 years ago) Permalink
Jaq, I've read about that community that he designed- it's in CA, right? It sounds so weird.
― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
(tee hee!)
― pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:33 (7 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, something like "Kinderbrooke", outside SF I think.
(post-google) - It's Hiddenbrooke, here's a Salon article: http://www.salon.com/mwt/style/2002/03/18/kinkade_village/
I did some work for a guy who collected Kinkade - it was very unnerving to be in their house with all those light-filled pieces.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
Event: Disneyland 50th Anniversary Product Release & Signing with Thomas KinkadeEvent Date: Saturday, September 10, 2005Event Time: 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.Location: The Disney Gallery, New Orleans Square, DisneylandÒ park Event Information:As part of our Disneyland® Resort 50th Anniversary Celebration, we are honored to unveil a breathtaking rendering of our transformed Sleeping Beauty Castle by famed “Painter of Light,”TM Thomas Kinkade. One of the most collected and beloved artists of our day, Thomas Kinkade emphasizes simple pleasures and inspirational messages through his paintings. Disney and Thomas Kinkade collectors alike will be enchanted and engaged by the luminous light and tranquil mood of this delightful release: Disneyland 50th Anniversary.
Limit TWO (2) Disneyland 50th Anniversary items per Guest. Special Guest Artist will only sign their respective item. We ask that you bring no personal items to be signed.
― President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:14 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
I find that Disney thing very disturbing. Also the DNA signature business; that is very ick.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
and more garish color schemes? i find his work looks very similar to a lot of fantasy art style-wise. if it weren't for the dull subject matter, he'd be airbrushed on the side of every other ford van. his "collectors" should share the blame equally.
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
― donald nitchie (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
Imagine the possibilities: not a care to interrupt the stroll through the verdant grounds, not a deadline to interfere, not an interruption to beckon. Bliss, pure and simple, and a fragrant walk through the morning light as one pursues the perfect round.
-See you on the links! Thomas Kinkade
― President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:40 (7 years ago) Permalink
I know I've seen Kinkade-like scenes on several RVs on the freeway.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:43 (7 years ago) Permalink
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:45 (7 years ago) Permalink
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:45 (7 years ago) Permalink
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
― President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:47 (7 years ago) Permalink
Hmmm...
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:49 (7 years ago) Permalink
I actually kind of like the fact that he's making people who otherwise would have no use for art of any kind aware that there is contemporary painting, and even more so attepting to make painting into something like a mass medium that could have the kind of cultural significance that pop music or TV do. If only the stuff he was using to do it wasn't so fucking trite and godawful.
― President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
I think a lot of the people who like Kinkade would probably consider Warhol just a homo junkie scumbag. Not that the Kinkade audience is the only wider audience art could and should be pitched to, or that Warhol is (in the work you're referencing, at least) about as accessible as Kinkade is. The thing is, I think since Pop Art's heyday the art scene has become even more insular and less a mass medium than it was before. So in that sense, Pop Art failed and Kinkade seems to be the only one taking painting to the mainstream. I happen to give the mainstream a lot of credit in terms of what they can handle. I think the (previously) experimental techniques used in music video and film attest to that. Why not take GOOD art to the mainstream? When Andy Goldsworthy's show came here to Austin last spring, I dragged as many people as I could to it, and every one of them loved it.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:59 (7 years ago) Permalink
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:33 (7 years ago) Permalink
This does a grave disservice to Rockwell!
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:00 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:56 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:02 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:38 (7 years ago) Permalink
Kinkade yaoi, now there's a whole new market. I like the Disneyland picture, I confess, partly because it's the best giggly kitsch ever, partly because it really does exhibit what "Disneyland" signifies to many Americans in the 20th/1st century, partly because it looks like an Alma-Tadema painting (whom I love for his giggly kitsch).
― Paul Ess (Paul Ess), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
I admire Kinkade on a conceptual level, on the level where what he's doing becomes pure modern art. You may argue that this is accidental, that's he's not self-aware, but I don't see how it COULDN'T be self-aware. He's the bastard son of PT Barnum and Andy Warhol. And actually Warhol is the perfec comparison: an emphasis on flash over depth, the use of multiple prints that are only different enough to make them "unique," the creation of a place that identifies with his artistic vision (TS: Hiddenbrooke vs. the Factory), etc.
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:15 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:21 (7 years ago) Permalink
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:59 (7 years ago) Permalink
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:10 (7 years ago) Permalink
Well, I meant in the sense that he's just 'giving the suckers what they want' and not neccesarily painting what he'd like to do most. You know, that he wants most is their money, not to paint gloopy scenes of candle-lit cottages in snowy forests.
But on the subject of b) I doubt very much that his paintings will continue to be good investments. There are simply too many of them and they're too much alike. What we've got here is a speculative bubble based on fiendishly clever marketing.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:11 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:16 (7 years ago) Permalink
I don't think that the Warhol comparison is totally fair. Warhol was smarter about his art in a different way. TK comes off as a business more than an artist. He uses gimmicks to increase value & sell more crap. Warhol seems to me more like a running commentary.
― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:20 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:29 (7 years ago) Permalink
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
also, my parents buy the Kinkade.
and they buy books advertised on the radio.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:38 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:40 (7 years ago) Permalink
I wonder who the last universally famed person I never heard of before this guy was?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
in 2001, Thomas Kinkade bet Susan Orlean a million dollars that a major museum would hold a Thomas Kinkade retrospective in his lifetime. look on my works ye mighty and etc.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, April 9, 2012 4:58 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's pretty smart to bet someone that you can do something in your lifetime, because if you fail, how are they going to collect?
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
i thought susan orlean was the PBS money saving guru at first and was trying to figure out how she came to have a rivalry with kinkade.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
like maybe she told her viewers, "a good way to invest your money... is NOT in thomas kinkade paintings ha ha ha, suck it, kinkade!"
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
ha!
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think any personal finance guru would recommend collectors items as a main investment.
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
are you saying my tv after 10 pm isn't a personal finance guru
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
is there good writing on kinkade that isn't hand-wringy and terrible like 100% of this thread?
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok maybe 97%
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bradford Exchange y New York Stock Exchange: the names are strikingly similar....
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ha I just looked up the Bradford Exchange site and it is cashing in on the news
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thomas Kinkade Stained Glass-Style Illuminated Faith CrossThomas Kinkade Faith Cross
First-ever Thomas Kinkade tabletop stained glass-style illuminated cross with inspiring chapel artwork and Scripture words. Wooden base, name plaque.
Measures 5" W x 9" H
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
that photo is lol, it looks like he's going to do that dizzy gillespie thing where he inflates his cheeks
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone photoshop (or actually make?) a thomas kinkade faith piss cross please
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I accept the TSA making me separate the few little liquids I need to take in my carry-on luggage by putting them in a little baggie etc. It's kinda dumb but whatever.
I'm really just annoyed at having to go out and buy QUART-sized ziplocks especially for my trip. I have gallons, I have sandwich-sized. I don't really WANT a box of quart-sized ziplocks.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
huh
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
quart-sized are good for your smaller hams
oh fuck I totally posted this on the wrong board
welp there's a first time for everything
*dies*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
*thread
heh, quart sized ziplocks for your kinkades
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I guess it's vaguely piss-christ related
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
be sure to double bag it
― Aimless, Thursday, 12 April 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:11 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OZIiVvxIuBEC&pg=PA215&dq=the+artist+in+the+mall&hl=en&sa=X&ei=446GT4vmA6Of0QXh4om5Bw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
― EDB, Thursday, 12 April 2012 08:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2012/04/10/art-entertainment/from-our-archives-thomas-kinkades-american-dream.html
― the hairy office thing (Eazy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wonder how TK decorated his own house -- that might be interesting. He seemed pretty obsessed with Disney stuff.
― I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
a lotta jp witkin i heard
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
^mashup that needs to happen
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
-American Artist Thomas Kinkade-Macular Degeneration
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.mercurynews.com/los-gatos/ci_20385235/brother-says-painter-thomas-kinkade-battled-alcoholism?source=most_emailed
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
ah the "i was drunk" defence
― Ò (Ówen P.), Saturday, 14 April 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
His brother blames all those mean critics for T. Kinkade's turning alcoholic. What other explanation could there be?
― Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Ò (Ówen P.), Friday, April 13, 2012 5:56 PM (50 minutes ago)
I'm going to not read this article. I choose assume booze was his defense for painting so goddamn much light.
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:30 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ real talk
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like to think susan orlean is hounding his estate right now
― goole, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
O'Toole kept living
Hardcore lolz here, Abbbottt. You're a treasure.
I actually showed Thomas Kinkade's Christmas Cottage in class and O'Toole's performance inspired a student to diagnose a new ailment: Humpty Dumpty Dementia.
But did you know there's another Kinkade movie? It's called Christmas Lodge and seems a correction of Cottage. If you look at the IMDb and Amazon reviews of the latter, then you'll discover that many Kinkadians were upset at all the swears and an attempted dad/son crotch grab. Lodge contains amped Jesus content and no swears. Also no respected actors to keep on living after their star turns here. Can you dig it?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I haven't seen TKCC (as the kids call it) but LOL @ Chris Elliot's wig in the trailer
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sorry, I just now noticed the request to comment.
I don't think the Kinkade industry has anything to do with art or technique; I think it has to do with selling an elaborate, porned out certificate of happiness and achievement to what is left of the middle class.
― Dan Lacey, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
dude will you make me one of those certificates? will pay up to $59.95+s&h
― raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have one on ebay for $100. If you purchase it, I will add a squirrel in the foreground so adhered in syrup it can't move.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261002696878?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_3464wt_883
― Dan Lacey, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
― I wish to be DINOSAUR SOLDIER again...and for EVERY WEAPON (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wld kill to see Peter O'Toole entreat Lacey to PAINT THE PANCAKES, DAN!
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
― I wish to be DINOSAUR SOLDIER again...and for EVERY WEAPON (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thomas Kinkade Cause Of Death: Painter Died Of Drug And Alcohol Overdose, Coroner Rules
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
But, you know, for god.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyway there's that benjamin essay art in the age of mechanical reproduction which I don't remember anything about, there are all those 'artists' cities in china where you can pay somebody like $50 to paint anything you want including a van gogh, it's pretty interesting, would post more about if I had a more coherent theory of art
― swaghand (dayo), Monday, April 9, 2012 11:43 PM (2 days ago)
im p sure i read abt some artbros paying these guys to do ersatz miros and ingreses and then the westerners added magic touches of their own, kinda like kinkade via chapmans
tho i might have imagined this
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There's a John Baldessari piece I remember from the Met retrospective where he basically hired a few sort of ordinary landscape-type painters who sold their paintings at a local fair and got them to paint from photographs he had taken. The result was very well-painted and very contemporary-looking paintings -- of course Baldessari had chosen the composition, but the technique was as good as anything you'd expect to see from the latest hot young painter.
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Description and example here:
http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/achieving-pure-baldessari-at-the-met/Content?oid=1794006
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
v cool. Done in 1969.
― a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thomas Kinkade's real home, currently held hostage by girlfriend. If you like real estate drama...
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:05 (9 months ago) Permalink
awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:09 (9 months ago) Permalink