the consolations of oldies radio

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All I'm saying is if I hear "Tears of a Clown" one more time it's gonna get nasty.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

I love the "rockin' oldies!" station here. The Doors, Al Green...nice.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

"oldies" that were "newies" when i was a kid: classic
"oldies" that were "newies" when someone else was a kid: dud

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 March 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

Oldies radio : where else can I hear Bobby Vee's "Rubber Ball" these days?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

It's all about "Brandy, you're a fine girl..."

I have a coworker that listens to it all day. They play the same songs at the same time in the same fucking order everyday. And they NEVER play the Who - but the Who didn't have many US hits.

andy, Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

"what good wife you will be (such a fine wife), but my life my love and my lady is the sea"

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

the oldies station in LA doesnt play ALL beatles songs. they tend to focus on their earlier, poppier stuff during their regular programming. i think they have a specific beatles day when they dare to play something off of the white album or abbey road or something, but its usually stuff like 'i wanna hold your hand,' etc.

the thing about oldies radio is that they have, you know.. 10-15 years of solid hits, and they reliably play the same 50-60 EVERY FUCKING DAY ALL DAY LONG.

(i see andy has beaten me to the punch. perhaps i should read more)

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

"oldies" that were "newies" when i was a kid: classic
"oldies" that were "newies" when someone else was a kid: dud

I feel almost exactly the opposite way.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

I knew this was lauren's thread before I opened it.

hstencil, Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

i've made my peace w/ oldies stations (like wcbs-fm hereabouts in the nyc metro area). if i can go on about the stuff i liked when i was growing up and as a 20-something, and listen to internet stations that play that kind of music, then who am i to begrudge those who grew up listening to the beatles or doo-wop? that doesn't mean that i WANT to listen to that stuff, but hey it's their thing and it's all good.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

My only problem with WCBS is that FUCKING ECHO the DJs feel obligated to envelop their voices in. There's a reason you're in a nice sound-proofed studio instead of an enormous drainage culvert you pompous blowhard. But - WOOLY BULLY!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

Cost/benefit analysis: how many "Time in a Bottle"s will you sit through to hear just one "Wooly Bully"?

French oldies radio is the greatest cause you've never heard any of the songs, but they SOUND like oldies. You'll hear a picture-perfect Nashville country song with all the words in French, and the whole car will fall about with laughter and start singing along. "EDDIE MEETCH-ELLE!!"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

My local supermarket plays oldies all the time. When I went in on Tuesday evening, they played Band of Gold, Leader of the Pack and Baby Love back to back. I was a happy shopper.

I agree with N.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

The Key Food on 5th Ave in Brooklyn, the one near Flatbush, has the best oldies rotation I've ever heard. But I don't know if it's an actual radio station or not, it's like this magic station that only that supermarket gets.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

the mysterious grocery store station! the met foods on smith street in boerum hill gets the same one. it's spectacular.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

I listen to oldies radio a lot on long car trips. It's like fast food--you always know what you're going to get, and you always know there's a new one coming up in a few miles. And, shockingly, you do get to hear some great old songs that never get any played anywhere else.

However . . . there are certain artists and songs that drive me insane that just as predictably and dependably show up on every cotton-pickin' oldies station broadcasting. So for every "Tears of a Clown" I am blessed to hear (ha), I am punished by Gary Lewis and the Playboys' "This Diamond Ring" (a song I have NEVER heard anywhere else), or that "Never My Love" thing, or, worst of all, anything by the accursed Four Seasons.

I still listen, but with trepidation.

Lee G (Lee G), Friday, 12 March 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. Kept me from not quitting my shitty retail job.

Sym (shmuel), Friday, 12 March 2004 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

I will always love CBS-FM for introducing me to the glory that is "Wichita Lineman".

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 12 March 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

The Key Food on McGuinness in Brooklyn also picks up the mysterious oldies station. Yesterday I heard a great female fronted rockabilly pop song that I had never heard before - and I bought bread and garlic!

Insomniette, Saturday, 13 March 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

Dud. Almost drove me to quit my shitty mailroom job. Then drive cross-country to assassinate Norman Greenbaum.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

Odies stations could expand a little and play something besides the Door's shortened version of Light My Fire. They take what they presume everyone listened to back then and wrap it in a million commmercials. Like today's country, they're aiming for the broadest audience. Now go fill up yer day.

jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 13 March 2004 08:30 (twenty years ago) link

My only problem with WCBS is that FUCKING ECHO the DJs feel obligated to envelop their voices in.

Tracer is sooooo GDOTMFM.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

FUCKING ECHO the DJs feel obligated to envelop their voices in.

that and the would-be four seasons station ids, with all the computer-enhanced harmonies

see oldies stations are really different, or at least used to be; i've almost never heard "band of gold" on chicago oldies radio

oldies radio is like a soggy old apple that has one good part left, if you're desperately hungry you can try to go for that one part

is it time to rehash the "what is 'band of gold'" about debate???

!!!! (amateurist), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

"about" should have been in quotes, i'm terribly sorry

!!!! (amateurist), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

a 500-song library is about par for the course.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

Whatever the motivation, McCoy says the listener is ultimately well served.

"Who could have a problem," he says, "with hearing 'Baby Love' a little more often?"

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo MAKE IT STOP

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

i'm glad to see the adult contemporary stuff go, although i appreciate schlock as much as the next person. i found it jarring to move from "why do fools fall in love" to "back in the high life again."

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

500 songs is prob. more than the typical clear channel library.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

ts: 400 contemporary pop songs vs. 500 "golden oldies"

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

those songs are drilled so deeply into my skull that wcbs may as well be playing any three of them on infinite loop.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

library size depends on format but most max out at about 500. FWIW, every station I've ever seen evolve has seen its ratings drop when it increased its library, and ratings rise when you drop the duds, all other factors being equal. Tight makes right.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

gah! why couldn't one of the dropped songs be "mockingbird" as rendered by carly simon/james taylor? holy balls, is this wretched.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

Can Pleasant Plains or any other past/present radio industry people point me to online info resources about companies that pump out formatted content via satellite?

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Monday, 8 November 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

bump

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Monday, 8 November 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"Good Time Oldies" radio has crept forward to 1987 -- heard "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" today.

D. Boon Pickens (WmC), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

Once JackFM came around, I turned that shit off, and preserved what was.

I compiled what I believe is every song from the oldies station I heard growing up in the '80s/early '90s. Essentially, a '60s playlist, but I realized this morning, it had stretched to 1975 with:

(1975) Natalie Cole - This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)
(1975) Neil Sedaka - Laughter In the Rain

I also have a '50s oldies playlist from my '70s/early '80s childhood that stretched into 1965 with Elvis Presley's Crying In The Chapel.

Anything that was on the air when I was in high school is something I have no warm fuzzy feelings about.

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

Once JackFM came around, I turned that shit off, and preserved what was.

haha.

There was some anti-oldies thread a while back but I can't find it right now.

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

FM oldies radio has completely focus-grouped out almost all of the 50s and much of the 60s, and the off-the-wall novelty songs and the one-hit-wonders that make that era so fascinating to me. Satellite radio, on the other hand, recently introduced me to Jo-Ann Campbell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPak2lsrX0

Blue Doggie Sweater (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

The "oldies" format as it still exists over the airwaves fascinates me -- carefully avoiding some genres until finally embracing them (disco), pretending punk never happened but bringing a fair lot of New Wave into play (no surprise there), relegating pre-Beatles stuff to some prehistorical ur-rock status and trotting out a track every couple of hours with "did you know this existed? Hear what we found on our latest archaeological dig!" Who makes these decisions? I'd like to be a fly on the wall in whatever conference room it's being done in.

D. Boon Pickens (WmC), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

wcbs-fm in nyc will be playing the frankie valley & 4 seasons every hour until the end of time

chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

the uncanny frankie valley

mark s, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Who makes these decisions?

http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dj3000.png

truth fact and correct (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

the uncanny frankie valley

― mark s, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:57 PM (4 minutes ago)


lock thread

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

thanking you

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

trotting out a track every couple of hours with "did you know this existed?

Really? I never hear this anymore. I used to work at a "Classic Hits" station in the late 80s that played mostly 60s/70s; they would pull out one obscurity each lunch hour, as voted by a listener. Once I pushed for "Precious Precious" by Jackie Moore, and was told it was too obscure. (#30, gold seller in 1971)

I haven't listened to oldies radio in a while, but last I checked there were no surprises whatsover. I used to hear a few oddities like "Hey Baby" by Bruce Channel and "Come On Down To My Boat" by Every Mother's Son in the rotation, but I think these have long since been eliminated.

Blue Doggie Sweater (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

I heard "Smokin in the Boys Room" (i think that was the track? was definitely crue) on the oldies station here, and that was the last straw.
Still, it has its charms -- there's nowhere else I could have heard "They're Coming to Take You Away" on the radio, and that song always amuses me.

Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah driving to work every day in a car with no way to hook up an ipod has led me to listen to a lot of oldies radio over the last few months, and i've decided that i'm really not ready to hear shit i heard on contemporary radio as a child (in the mid 80s) showing up on oldies stations, even though i've been expecting it for a while now.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

in another 30 years, the "nuggets from the archeological dig" songs are gonna be like limahl solo tracks.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

That's not as scary as thinking about what's going to be on the oldies stations in fifty years time. "One from the dig: it's LMFAO!"

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

45 at 5: i gotta feeling!

Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

haha that wasn't so much a complaint about TODAY'S MUSIC as lamenting my inevitable and inexorable slide into decrepitude

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

wcbs-fm in nyc will be playing the frankie valley & 4 seasons every hour until the end of time

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:55 PM

Wiki on WCBS is fascinating--I remember that station being a weird 50s/early 60s holdout with very geriatric DJs a decade ago, apparently it had a failed Jack reboot a few years ago, and now does 50s all the way through the 80s.

bentelec, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey Baby" by Bruce Channel

Now we can lock thread, as perfection has been posted.

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

i was really glad to hear "they're coming to take you away" tbh
ha ha hee hee

Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

wcbs-fm in nyc will be playing the frankie valley & 4 seasons every hour until the end of time

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

This was the station my parents always had on in the car when I was a kid. So true. So much Valley. I can't even read WCBS without singing it the way the jingle does in my head.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN
GO AWAY I'M NO GOOOOOOD FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

i think it's Valli btw

Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

sorry, that was annoying
but not as annoying as hearing 80s songs on the oldies station

Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

lol it totally is oops

Not annoying - I actually love him and probably know the words to more 4 seasons songs than I should. My bff has two sisters one named Dawna and one named Sherry.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

x-posts - I wonder if cousin brucie is still on WCBS

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

ha - Dawn not Dawna

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

Cousin Brucie is on satellite, on the Sirius XM 60s channel. I saw him on the subway a month or two ago. I said hello and he was pretty nice, don't think he thinks much of the current WCBS. I had actually seen him a few years ago on the subway, asking for directions. I asked him if he had ridden the subway before and he said yes, all the time, just not that particular line, so I guess this was a belated confirmation.

band of uitsmijters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link


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