something terrible happened in a town in northern england
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
nobody ever revives this shit just to say 'hi', what is that?
― socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
it's almost as if ilx has decided yr inner life is entirely determined by the travails of harry and his brave hotspurs
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
tbf to kbp he knows- it's the stupid, economy
― socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
hey were is everyone
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.commenthaven.com/graphics/labor-day-comments/labor-day_9.gif
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 5 September 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
hey darraghmac! one of the reasons i like you is because you remind me of
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Caramac.jpg/220px-Caramac.jpg
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
i get that a lot from uk ilxors but iirc nobody's ever been able to confirm that the pronunciation is the same, assuming it is tbh.
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jdV2X_A85M
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
can't view youtubes but sup nakh
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
i was just posting a youtube of
http://www.discogs.com/Prml-Scrm-Swstk-Ys/release/244056
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
i don't *think* they're swastikas
.......are they?
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
no they're not but they look a bit like them so
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
hmmph that'd kinda suits my bytimes misunderstood ilx persona, i feel
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2228368/Tottenham-Hotspur-scouting-West-Ham-striker-Andy-Carroll-summer-switch.html
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
Obv
― ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 06:46 (eleven years ago) link
bobby zamora
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link
Hope
― ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 06:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://forums.naimaudio.com/displayForumTopic/content/18180130516909910?nc=1&reply=18180130518701147#18180130518701147
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 16 February 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
hi fi forums! that's an idea you can take to the bank :)
― administrator galina (Matt P), Saturday, 16 February 2013 05:59 (eleven years ago) link
whatever i'm accused of i deny
― ...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
on another subject, I just discovered that Supermac's is opening up shop in Australia this year because lol diaspora
― Ceci n'est pas une Le Snak (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
Ye wont know what hit ye
― ...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
gotta help organise a work lunch next month, st patrick's day theme
help me steer clear of the usual cliches, big man
― B.A. "Bad Attitude" Santamaria (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm
dont do it, blow the funds, the night before ring the ecb in a panic, try to convince them that the event is of systemic importance
― bbag bbag my nebby shot me down (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
Tbrr cliche is prob what's expected and theyll be disappointed not to get it, but what kind of tips were you lookin for
― bbag bbag my nebby shot me down (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'm working on the quiz element of the lunch (highly fought over, prize is cinema vouchers) and I'm trying to avoid questions like "what is a Shillelagh?"
― B.A. "Bad Attitude" Santamaria (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
btw some of my colleagues have already said "Irish food is too hard, maybe we can include some English dishes?"
― B.A. "Bad Attitude" Santamaria (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, give them something they can actually eat
― .... the rest look like Dudley Sutton (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
proper irish food , cos i never answered this, would be lamb stew, bacon and cabbage, black pudding, guinness and whiskey, eh idk beyond that.
themes? shamrocks and green and gold, get somme uileann pipe music i spose
i mean it's gammy enough, you'd genuinely be better going for the cliches, get drunk and wear a green hat and whatever else ye think we do.
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
worrisome that my only real thread is in tis backwater tbh
whtob thread is full of bad news so i said here'd do for a personal update of hols in the sun eating cured meats fruits and cheese, reading by the pool and occasionally visiting sites of historical or architectural note. otoh my tablet stopped charging wtf. any questions?
― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
tell us of these meats.
― ¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
porcine in origin and prepared along the iberian fashion
― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
I intend to eat several similar in October. Feel free to expand.
― ¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
after you've eaten a few you certainly will amirite
― i worked myself into a clam (electricsound), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
well it was the only possible response wasnt it
― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 07:28 (eleven years ago) link
cured meats AND cured fruits? explain
― Sir Francis Drake burned the Spanish Armada because YOLO (King Boy Pato), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
For Gallagher, the driving force behind the band Oasis during the 1990s, the literary industry is bound up with issues of class, arguing that "people who write and read and review books are fucking putting themselves a tiny little bit above the rest of us who fucking make records and write pathetic little songs for a living."
According to the Bookseller's Cathy Retzenbrink, Gallagher has identified an "incredibly serious point".
"He's saying what loads of people in this country think, but don't normally have a platform to say," Retzenbrink added. "There are vast amounts of people who feel this way, who do feel that people who are comfortable with words look down on them."
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link
Still awesome, sad that when the mod powers become fully aware he will be the first against the wall
― ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Saturday, 19 October 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link
<3
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 October 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
with his "anti-music opinions" stance, darraghmac rails against the machine that not only celebrates him daily, but has made his career possible. this is something he shares with every thinker of integrity in history.
― Treeship, Saturday, 19 October 2013 05:41 (ten years ago) link
the best
― dell (del), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
er, i mean "the greatest", not the best
― dell (del), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
god bless all here but idk why the revive i've had better weeks
― champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
stfu please, not really for you to judge...
― dell (del), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
fair, fair
― champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
what about stew?
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
i'll post to the requisite in the next few mins
― champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
ok preferably the del boy falling etc thread
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
you got what you got. not my best work (nor his) but i have three assignments to start and finish before tuesday 6pm so there it is.
― champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9gSyku-fc
― “bad” mothers, rebel mamas, and other radical/transgressive moms (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link
Not much good to me atm
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
darragh i am loving all your contributions today
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:23 (seven years ago) link
"today" hey
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:25 (seven years ago) link
yes today
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
best not bump this again for a while id say
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
ok fine every day
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 5 January 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link
nah for other reasons. which i predict to become apparent at next admin log bump
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link
dmac how should I pronounce "taoiseach"?
― fremmes with neppavenettes (rip van wanko), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:32 (four years ago) link
t-shock
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
i mean i guess theres a tiny aieee in the hyphen but youd nearly need to know about sean nós to get it
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
http://politicalstrangenames.blogspot.com/2019/07/deems-hardy-clifton-1910-1998.html
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
ive never learned to love it tbh
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
When these Irish habits are strong, as in the speech of first-generation bilinguals, they produce such violations of idiom as "If it is a thing that he do come." This means "If he should come," and the word "thing" is trying to anchor it to the aspective. But under pressure from English idiom more accurately sensed that kind of pidgin tends to vanish, "and only Gaelicisms inherently amenable to the recipient structure are retained in the mono-lingual Anglo-Irish." So an English comes to be spoken that has nothing grammatically wrong with it but with still something strange about it, a strangeness frequently obtained by the Irish habit of concentrating on states but supplementing the feeble English verb "to be" with verbs like "put," "leave," "have," which are used to indicate how a state of things has been effected: "She has him crying" (She has made him cry); "I put the fear of God on him" (I frightened him severely); "Have it off him" (take it from him).
― piqued (wins), Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:54 (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
knew that wins had posted relevant stuff somewhere
mcdonaghs irish dialogue has clearly been influenced overmuch by a study of the likes of this, and surely the likes of the stuff put on at the abbey early doors, but rly it was wrong, all wrong, and to write it in the nineties or whatever and lazily wave a hand at synge or whoever from 1920 is just not acceptable.
firstly, i could read synge in my down-home dialect and im pretty sure that while it would seem old-fashioned, it would nevertheless come clean enough out. from ascendancy stock, his time in aran (or his ear) seems to have served him better than whatever mcdonagh has picked up from having a lettermullen father.
im willing to allow a set of rotten vocal performances, tho twould seem a bit much of a coincidence that the gang entire playing islanders didnt know a kerry accent from a connemara- the lads playin nordies were ok, like. the lad from the young offenders was by some distance better than the other three lead islanders.
its a funny balance, theres many good reasons a fella doesnt want to go too sharply in on diaspora or their writing/depiction of jreland, but dammit the play was set in 1993 and between speaking an idiom that at kindest interpretation might have flown fifty years earlier in a very different region and having an o'casey lite grasp of/care for anything like a reasonable characterisation of the people and throwing in a quiet man level of ra (well inla but) men ive to say.....its bad stuff, insulting stuff, and ive no idea of its path from draft to fame but this tick paddy wouldve handed it back to him and told him to write english characters and nkt spoof irish ones.
telling perhaps that twas the RSC put it on first, idk? and that it did well in the states.
at least im happy to be able to report that his clumsy scattergun satire (its not satire its an inability to accurately nail) from three billboards is only him doing to murrica what he done to us first
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:23 (four years ago) link
special word for yerman from bachelors walk. gaeltacht english is imo a complex, precise, dry, expressive idiom and this guy to my mind played it for laughs out of ignorance or contempt.
he simply didnt say the stuff right, had no interest in saying it right. hee-hawing his way through lines for laughs in an accent nobody has ever heard outside of the gaiety and one that a bare minimum of effort, interest or talent wouldve informed him or anyone responsible was ridiculous.
twat.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:32 (four years ago) link
tisnt *why* im awake, but seeings i *am* awake, its what im annoyed about rn
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:33 (four years ago) link
Which one from Bachelors Walk? Wycherley?I absolutely loved Bachelors Walk but it is very much A Product Of Its Time and idk if I would today so I havent rewatched.Feel diaspora, esp those who spent a lot of holidays in Ireland as a child, are uncomfortably trapped - no doubt McDonagh got it from both sides and therefore a lot of his tin ear stems from overcompensating? And he is Irish - he is undoubtedly one of those people who’d have been born and raised in Ireland if not for economic migration. Don’t know if this would have made him quite the same writer though. I wonder also about if there was the thing you see (lol how articulate I am) where emigrants are sort of frozen in time after leaving and miss out on the nuances and developments you wouldn’t if you were still living there. I might be projecting because I sometimes feel this way, though.
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link
just want to say I apreesh dmac 🙂
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 March 2020 07:30 (four years ago) link
heh ty ums and rb@u but i really only took half-notice of what thread that crucial wins post was in when i bumped at 5am
gyac, absolutely i get the trap that an irish person abroad- i think anyone away, really, even me in dublin to a certain extent- can fall into without any blame attached of having a postcard relationship with place. experiencing it through parents and doing the summers back home, more so again, sure.
ive cousins in what i would think are a very similar type relationship, london to irish parents and its v clichéd how and where the stuff sticks, the importance to them of ritual and cultural points that....fell away from cousins this side as we lived through change. very understandable stuff.
but all that said, that this is a version of irish that seems acceptable- and look i guess we all have our sore points, this must be one of mine- to write and put on and tour around the world and slap "mid nineties western ireland" on it is something i take a strong allergy to tbh.
its cod ireland and whether the fault is in mcdonagh as a writer (frankly i suspect so) or whether this is a representation of ireland hed be happy to sit and talk to a journalist in nyc and insist is his truth is somewhat imo beside the point, rly
friel was writing a more modern rural ireland in the early 60s, like.
sure, mcdonagh is writing broad strokes, but my objection to the level of apery goes beyond "arah its doesnt have to be a documentary".
im overanalysing it, surely, but the question of why this, of anything, is what went superstar from the irish writing scene in the past two decades is one that goes beyond "he can write a decent quip" imo
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link
I’m not disagreeing with you, I just understand where he’s coming from I guess. You see this to a much greater extent with Irish-Americans and the way they cling to things like corned beef and Irish dancing and stuff that died out in the late 19th century. Literally. (Why they insist on clinging to St Patty’s is another thing entirely).You read old Flann and he was bang otm now, today, probably tomorrow. I mean, the “plain people of Ireland” still cuts! and even that is so beyond McDonagh. I do think he writes well though, when you strip this shite away? The issue is that there’s so much of it.Anyway, Cruiskeen Lawn though! None of this sounds like anyone itt, ofc.
A LADY lecturing recently on the Irish language drew attention to the fact (I mentioned it myself as long ago as 1925) that, while the average English speaker gets along with a mere 400 words, the Irish-speaking peasant uses 4,000.Considering what most English speakers can achieve with their tiny fund of noises, it is a nice speculation to what extremity one would be reduced if one were locked up for a day with an Irish-speaking bore and bereft of all means of committing murder or suicide.My point, however, is this. The 400/4,000 ration is fallacious; 400/400,000 would be more like it. There is scarcely a single word in the Irish (barring, possibly, Sasanach) that is simple and explicit.Apart from words with endless shades of cognate meaning, there are many with so complete a spectrum of graduated ambiguity that each of them can be made to express two directly contrary meanings, as well as a plethora of intermediate concepts that have no bearing on either...But what is the use? One could go on and on without reaching anywhere in particular.Your paltry English speaker apprehends sea-going craft through the infantile cognition which merely distinguishes the small from the big.If it’s small, it’s a boat, and if it’s big it’s a ship. In his great book An tOileánach,however, the uneducated Tomás Ó Criomhthain uses, perhaps, a dozen words to convey the concept of carrying super-marinity – árthrach long, soitheach, bád, naomhóg, bád raice, galbhád, púcán and whatever you are having yourself.The plight of the English speaker with his wretched box of 400 vocal beads may be imagined when I say that a really good Irish speaker would blurt out the whole 400 in one cosmic grunt. In Donegal there are native speakers who know so many million words that it is a matter of pride with them never to use the same word twice in a life-time. Their life (not to say their language) becomes very complex at the century mark; but there you are..
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link
i think nakh pbuh may have posted some very interesting stuff in the middle of some long forgotten thread about how and where irish-scotch culture in particular- actually iirc its in particular-particular ulster-schotchtch- travelled in packets and stuck in their new places with specifically traceable cultural touchstones but sprung thence as a new genus in its own new conditions, and i think thats what we're saying here
amerikay tends, at least imo, to veer btwn quiet man and sayyyyy roddy doyle
i think that-if i think of them as the kilburn irish i hope that doesnt come across as having any negative connotations, these are my people- the kilburn irish have a very definite idea of rural ireland that-
will we say mcgahern? we will, maybe-
strikes me, when i mix with them as i do in their own place (london irish is a fascinating culture to me) or as they return to my place as tantalisingly close to quantifiable, tho im sure wed have a fine row in nailing down the characteristics.
and beyant all that, i would still say that mcdonaghs innismore is worthy of a flann to tear it to pieces
right, breakfast
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link
this is good stuff deems and while nothing to contribute at the time these posts are worthy of appreciation, have it off me imo
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 6 March 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link