nfl offseason transactions, fired coaches, general nonsense 2012

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i just wanted someplace to post that both norv turner and aj smith will be returning to the san diego charges!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

jerry angelo fired, miracle of miracles

maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ the Chargers if they don't can Norv. I've never seen a coach who "wants it less"

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

oh hai, I'd like to introduce you to a portly fellow named Andy Reid.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

God I have to endure another year of you clowns talking shit about these dudes? fuck me

polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

tell them to do a better job and i'll shut up!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

Wish they'd gotten rid of AJ and kept Norv but I can't have everything I want I guess.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah Andy Reid is pretty inept but Norv seems inept in just about every way

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah; that's a bad sentence. make no mistake

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

I also think Andy Reid is a good coach! Crazy old polyphonic.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

andy reid is a good coach.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link

andy reid gets a lot out of his teams but he is horrific during the game.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, in Reid's case it's probably that the public doesn't see all the good work he's doing during the practices and only the 200+ times he's mishandled things during the actual games.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

I guess Norv and the GM were both on the line for 2 more years on their contract, so I figure the Spanos didn't want to have to pay them and their replacements. Finishing 8-8 gave them an out.

I didn't figure Reid would get fired by Philly, especially since they rallied in the second half. I think the short camp and those early injuries kind of caught them up. Then again the Giants lost almost everyone but their D-line on defense and still made the playoffs.

Doesn't look like that many jobs are going to be open, especially when early on it looked like some marquee jobs like the Giants, Eagles (and even the Chargers) might be available.

Bucs
Rams
Dolphins
Jags
Chiefs (I got a feeling they might just give Romeo Crennel the job.)

I'd say the jewel of the lot is the Dolphins, even though their ownership seems pretty inept thusfar.

Bucs are in a rough division and I doubt that is going to change overnight. I don't think they or the Rams have that much talent wise that will allow them to flip quick.

Jags have some talent on defense, o-line and running back. I don't see Blaine Gabbert being an answer though.

Chiefs have some pieces, but need some offensive firepower. The division is pretty much up for grabs, so I could believe they could be a playoff team quick depending on schedule and luck - not sure they would be easy to turn into a year after year good club.

I think Lovie Smith is a solid coach and you fire him, he's just going to go someplace else and make their defense good. Biggest problem with the Bears is their ownership and until they get smart and quit hiring friends of the family or trying to run it from the backroom, it's not going to work. Bad thing is that with Cutler you are going to have the third offensive system in his short time with the Bears. I'd almost would have just like to see them keep going with Martz, as I think they were close to being good. The o-line needs work and they are going to have to bring in some fresh legs in the defensive back field, as they are looking slow.

earlnash, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

C'mon Bears show a bit of originality, Mike Tice as offensive coordinator?

I know he was the o-line coach, but we know how good that unit was the past couple years.

F'ing McCaskeys...

earlnash, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

i liked when the bears brought in martz b/c it seemed indicative that they were going to open up the offense, and it kinda seemed to work! there must have been some issues going on, iirc martz wasn't seeing eye to eye with smith and co towards the end. i dunno, i liked him. the bears have had some rinky-dink offensives since erik kramer's epic season in '95. maybe it was ron turner's offense running through orton, but for awhile there it seemed like the bears were content to pass up big plays and instead toss the ball underhanded and softly off the back of an offensive lineman's helmet and hope for the best.

omar little, Saturday, 7 January 2012 07:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://funkatron.com/content/im-goin-deep-fan-club.jpg

RINKY-DINK?

mookieproof, Saturday, 7 January 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

belichick calls his boy home, tells him "job well done."

dead precedents politics as usual (Hunt3r), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

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re schef reporting nick caserio declining colts GM position. why in the world does irsay think having a twitter acct is a good idea?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 8 January 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

megalol @ the idea of the colts of all people trying to gank nick cesario of all people

call all destroyer, Sunday, 8 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

"why in the world does ANYONE think having a twitter acct is a good idea?"

I guess it's good for exposing the ID of quite a few idiots (including congressmen, movie stars, rappers and now appearantly NFL owners).

earlnash, Monday, 9 January 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link

I keep hearing reports that the Bucs are talking with Brad Childress. If they hire him, I'll never watch another Bucs game again.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

In three moves, they'll have gone from Dungy to Chilly and they'll deserve whatever fate they meet.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

i liked Chilly in Minnesota. just a perfect team/HC combo, a hapless team that always fucks up in the end with a coach that the players don't like who constantly sets his team up to fail. this just doesn't seem right :(

frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

brett favre and childress were magic together : /

http://assets.sheetmusicplus.com/product/Look-Inside/covers/19420784.jpg

omar little, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

spagnuolo return to philly to be confirmed this week. 2012 already looking much better for eagles.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

never, ever, ever, ever, ever change oakland

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 1m

Raiders fired Hue Jackson. More on ESPN.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

prelude to bringing in a gm?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

They already brought in a gm.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

MOTHERFUUUUUUUU

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

And he's going to hire his own guy.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

basically what needs to happen here is oakland needs to release every qb on their roster besides terrelle pryor, they need to hire chip kelly and draft lamichael james

my work here is done

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

What the Raiders need to do is pretty simple:

1. Fire John Herrera
2. Profit

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

I'm so fucking tired of this bullshit. I give up.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

i mean yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but is hue really a big loss?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

didn't jackson go off the deep and say something about how now that al is dead he runs the raiders? tbh, everyone tainted by signing off on that carson palmer trade needs to be dropped in the shark tank

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

hue seemed like a pretty solid coach to me

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

He was a total clown

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

gruuuuuuuuuuden

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

if gruden goes back there i'm moving to the bay

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I had no problem with him as head coach. Raiders under Hue were the closest thing to a team they've been in 10 years & the fact that there was even playoff *talk* was partly due to him.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

the carson trade was batty but that team is going in the right direction imo

i mean they certainly could hire a better coach, but they also could not

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

Just curious: Did you guys watch the last half of the season at all?

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Yep. But can we have a fucking coach for more than 2 seasons, just to SEE what that's like? Breznahan was a bigger problem than Jackson, surely.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

The bit at the end of the season where he said that he could finally admit that his players played like shit was very telling. The dude is kind of Singletary-esque.

The penalties this season were out of control. The talent was getting better, not the culture.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

He was not even close to Singletaryesqueness, imo

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

hue's a solid coach but he seemed to be going mad with power. better to start fresh, the new GM seems to have a good background and im sure they can find someone

maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Breznahan was a bigger problem than Jackson, surely.

And he's also gone. McKenzie is going to get this right if Mark Davis and Herrera don't undermine him.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

hue's a solid coach but he seemed to be going mad with power.

otm

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

they're both black, bald and probably mean guys, but singletary was a straight up clown

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

9/9 BUF @ NYJ W
9/16 NYJ @ PIT L
9/23 NYJ @ MIA L
9/30 SF @ NYJ L
10/8 HOU @ NYJ L
10/14 IND @ NYJ W
10/21 NYJ @ NE L
10/28 MIA @ NYJ W
Bye
11/11 NYJ @ SEA L
11/18 NYJ @ STL W
11/22 NE @ NYJ W
12/2 ARI @ NYJ W
12/9 NYJ @ JAC W
12/17 NYJ @ TEN L
12/23 SD @ NYJ L
12/30 NYJ @ BUF L

giving them (generously) 3 division home wins, a win at st louis and a split of the back to back road games in tenn and jax, i get them to 7 wins

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

even that seems extremely generous to me

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone written about schedule difficulty? i just took a look at philly schedule and (no jinx) it looks a lot easier than it has been for a number of years

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

nm found it http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56896/2012-nfl-strength-of-schedule

actually 7th hardest

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

my problem w/ assessing schedule strength preseason is that the NFL is such a volatile league i.e. no one pre-2011 season would've counted an out-of-division game against the niners as one of the toughest draws in the league

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's hard for me to adjust to this new reality where panthers are a dangerous team

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, strength of schedule stats are out of date as soon as they are compiled.

looking thru quickly, nearly every team the eagles are playing has a chance of being decent this year. who knows what the skins will be like this year, and then divisional games can be a crapshoot anyhow, look at that division last year. i would say eagles really want to win those first two roads games vs cle and az

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

az is still a total mess at QB afaik?

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, worst team in league almost def

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

browns supposed to be actually legit this season?

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

if richardson turns out like ppl think and their defense plays well

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

big ifs

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

4-12

hail dayton (brownie), Friday, 31 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

you don't think the Jets can win a road game in Arizona?

frogbs, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

they could if they had one?

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

the browns are gonna suck

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

branch waived

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrfz8irPU21qkpr6fo1_400.gif

just want to point out that this gif is now a bit more accurate

k3vin k., Friday, 31 August 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

Whoops, I meant Buffalo!

frogbs, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ the idea of a wasted, decrepit jets team winning in buffalo on dec. 30

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

rex is 3-0 in buffalo so there is room for doubt but this is the worst jets team of his tenure and the best bills side

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

also, buffalo on dec 30

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Rex says this is the best Jets team he's coached

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

rofl

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

cards reportedly name skleton starting qb

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

who is the cardinals gm btw do they have one

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the arizona cardinals

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

‏@AlbertBreer
Can't recall a more disastrous trade for a club than the Kevin Kolb deal has been for Arizona. Just catastrophic for that club.

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

rod graves, "selected by Sports Illustrated as one of the “101 Most Influential Minorities in Sports” as well as one of the “50 Most Powerful Blacks in Sports” by Black Enterprise Magazine"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, he has had a major hand in destroying an nfl franchise, that is pretty powerful right there

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

he has a daughter called 'Britne' so the kolb thing wasn't his worst decision

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder how much the eagles knew about kolb's abilities when they made that trade w/ arizona

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

probably a good amount

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

www.passionsearch.com/Dating-Friends/

k3vin k., Friday, 31 August 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

i am just repeating what i have read elsewhere, but supposedly kolb isn't bad, he's just a horrible fit for their offense and always was. but, eagles surely knew all about him and never thought twice about him being a long term starting option, certainly by the time they moved him.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

it would be hilarious if the cardinals went through all this w/ kolb then released him only to see him be competent for, like, the texans or something

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 31 August 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

i guess he would work best with possession and inside receivers, i.e. fitz totally wasted on him. so maybe someone like the titans could make something out of him? i bet he could do a cassel type job if brady died, moreso than mallett, who actually might be more use for someone like the cards, with his downfield arm that the pats can't really make use of.

it is certainly possible, though, that the real problem is he is a bit shit

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

this guy now starting qb for cards

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/49256/2413658-skeletor_2.jpg

Mordy, Friday, 31 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

good height, arm strength

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, worst team in league almost def
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, August 31, 2012

i would venture that the jags, minus mjd, is the worst team in the league

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 September 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

well for jax it all hinges on gabbert. if he gets that 2nd year bump and can put in a half decent showing he has a couple new wide receivers and a decent TE to target. obviously they have a long way to go on that side of the ball as i think they were last in the league last year even with mjd, but even a middling offense together with similar production from what was one of the better nfl defenses last year, and it's not too crazy to think they might scrape a winning record from somewhere. you definitely can't put any kind of scenario like that together for arizona. plus jax surely aren't even the worst team in their division, they have to do better than indy.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

i watched some video on the phoenix newspaper website (i was looking for conspiracy theories about what philadelphia knew + when) where they were discussing who cards should start at QB (this was before they went w/ skeletor over kolb). anyway, they have this few minute long discussion weighing pros and cons of each and then one is like: "between these two choices, and the rest of the talent on the team, does it really matter who they go with in the end?" and the other person was like "no, that's a good point. it really doesn't make any difference to the cardinals season."

Mordy, Saturday, 1 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

gabbert was unbelievably bad last season; i'll be v. impressed if he shows anything this year.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 September 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

"[Russell] Wilson keeps a diary of every practice on an Excel worksheet."

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like a budding chad pennington

johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

To date, Wilson hasn't shown any signs of being made out of glass.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, hes made out of ass.

Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Russell Wilson is the real deal. You watch.

frogbs, Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link


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