the cowboys' bigger is bigger than your bigger: NFL week three

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But Roffles was lucky enough to land on a team with playoff level talent. Most first round quarterbacks go to shit teams by definition. Then they are thrown into the mix much too early, only to get their brains smashed out through their ear holes... hello, David Carr. This is probably why a lot of spread quarterbacks wash out in the NFL; they're never given enough time to learn the pro game.

leavethecapital, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Peyton Manning, i guess. he broke a bunch of rookie records, right?

i've never been so insulated (Roberto Spiralli), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Roffles also had two (2) HB's that he could ride all day so...

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Gus Frerotte is Minnesota's option, which is to say not much of one. I'd probably be sticking with Tavaris Jackson. It's QB, it isn't like you can make a deal at this point to get someone else unless you are getting really desperate and calling old man Vinny.

earlnash, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Troy Aikman got the crap kicked out of him starting of the Cowboys as a rookie, but that team went like 1-15.

earlnash, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

JAMARCUS RUSSELL

WAIT UNTIL HE'S PLAYED A FULL SEASON &c

David R., Wednesday, 17 September 2008 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I hear Jeff George is available.

leavethecapital, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Police said Marinovich, 38, ran from officers who tried to stop him about 1:15 a.m. Sunday for skateboarding near the Newport Pier boardwalk, where skateboarding is prohibited.

He was found hiding in a carport about 1:30 a.m., police Sgt. Evan Sailor said. After searching Marinovich, police found about one gram of methamphetamine, a metal spoon and a hypodermic needle, Sailor said.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 17 September 2008 06:38 (fifteen years ago) link

in other news, Bubby Brister received a summons from his apartment complex owner for playing his music "too loud"

Dirty Sanchez (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

There's some talk around about the Vikings making a play for Jeff Garcia, but I can't imagine that happening. The Bucs would be nuts to make the move to Griese permanent.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

The Bucs would be nuts to make the move to Griese permanent.

Yeah, but Chucky and Garcia hate each other.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Well the T-Jax debate will not be resolved this season: Frerotte named starter for rest of year.

Deserved recent Tarvaris hating aside, this really sucks and is all about a coach trying to not get fired.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

effects:

1. replaces a chump with a chump, nothing gained
2. lets receivers off the hook when spotlight should be on them this week
3. trashes a whole pre-season of work on offense
4. completely undermines the good things about two unlucky defeats
5. damages team morale by underscoring that they are being coached by a cretin

i've never been so insulated (Roberto Spiralli), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh. firing up the gus bus is a BAD move.

...seriously though, exhibit a of the improper value of having starter experience=gus
frerotte.

j.q higgins, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

What a weird, sad move.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Jamarcus has the crap receivers excuse ten times over Tavaris. i'm white btw.

bnw, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

ten times is a helluva exaggeration. when you get down into the morass, you're just talking about different shades of below average. and those Vikes receivers played waaaay below average.

i've never been so insulated (Roberto Spiralli), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

damn what the fuck they screwed the shit out of tavaris

ilx: a miracle i helped create (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a panic move 2 weeks into the season. I would have given it a little more time. The guy above who said they are making a waste of their pre-season is OTM, but I think Frerotte would have gotten some extra reps during camp due to the starter being suspect.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

What good does it do to declare Gus as the starter for the remainder of the season?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

The Vikings are actively trying to make me hate them, aren't they

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

gus frerotte

:-0

brownie, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

pls send tavaris to the lolrams.

bnw, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the erotic frerotte

cankles, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-4-118/Jackson-s-failure-shakes-Childress.html

I learned a few things I didn't know.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://m1.2mdn.net/1448023/snickers_strahan_728x90.swf

can someone embed this plz

cankles, Thursday, 18 September 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/lfw/images/Gus_Frerotte/Gus_Frerotte_0001.jpg

rogermexico., Thursday, 18 September 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - Falcons by default
OAK @ BUF - Bills Bills Bills Bills Bills
TB @ CHI - interesting fixture, will be revealing, I think. going with the Bears
CAR @ MIN - would've said MIN but honestly, fuck knows now. Carolina
MIA @ NE - if the Pats lose this game ESPN will be unreadble for the whole week. pray with me, folks
CIN @ NYG - Giants have the power
HOU @ TEN - Titans. Houston remains a mystery, which missing week two didn't help
ARI @ WAS - 'Skins. two wildly varying performances so far but guess maybe they learned a few things from week one.
NO @ DEN - Denver lookin' tasty.
DET @ SF - great game. lots to be excited about. 49ers ftw
STL @ SEA - NFC West is where football goes to die. who cares? Seattle i guess
CLE @ BAL - Ravens D
JAC @ IND - Colts get great opportuinity to right the ship vs oddly impotent Jax side
PIT @ PHI - this smells more like football. Eagles
DAL @ GB - think maybe Rodgers' wake up call in the 2nd half might've done him good. i'm going Wisconsin
NYJ @ SD - Chargers butcher Jets, get season back on track

I'm reading Shakespeare at my place downtown (Roberto Spiralli), Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link

would've said MIN but honestly, fuck knows now

But isn't the notion that Frerotte opens up the playbook and gives MIN a Better Chance To Win Right Now?

rogermexico., Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

you know the thing about the buffalo buffalo buffalo sentence is that you can almost do it with bills too, if you assume that the bills team has two gentlemen named bills, one of whom owes the other money

THE GAMBLER (max), Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

But isn't the notion that Frerotte opens up the playbook and gives MIN a Better Chance To Win Right Now?

Yeah, I heard that same thing this morning. Why the shit would MN open up the playbook for proven veteran / dead end Frerotte and not TJ? Is Childress trying to stack the deck against TJ?

David R., Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

This is a classic example of "inept douchebag attempts blatant CYA move"

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

What playbook do they even have to open up? Their concept of a big-play threat was paying Bernard Berrian to run fast in a straight line once in a while.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I Love NFL is the only board on ILX worth reading anymore.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vv6iw9.jpg

ilx: a miracle i helped create (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - yr atlanta falcons
OAK @ BUF - bills
TB @ CHI - bears
CAR @ MIN - pants
MIA @ NE - pats
CIN @ NYG - gints
HOU @ TEN - tits
ARI @ WAS - skins
NO @ DEN - broncs
DET @ SF - niners
STL @ SEA - squawks
CLE @ BAL - ravens
JAC @ IND - colts
PIT @ PHI - eagles
DAL @ GB - pack
NYJ @ SD - chargers

balls, Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - I'll take Atlanta. "You play to win the game." Oh how far the hyped have fallen.
OAK @ BUF - Bills seem pretty solid. Oakland seems a bit more like a sitcom version of a football team like "1st and Ten" than usual. It would be funny if they were having to go to games in a big black and silver bus and they had some old grizzelled guy with a big stoagie driving them around.
TB @ CHI - I want the Bears to win. Chucky needs to get checked for putting Griese in charge of the store.
CAR @ MIN - I'm going Panthers. Minnesota's coach mumbledy mumble is already playing the C.Y.A. move in week three as his ass is grass if they don't win this year.
MIA @ NE - Logic says Patriots, but I could see Miami pulling an upset.
CIN @ NYG - Giants are rolling and the Bungles are back. NYG have a pretty sweet early schedule.
HOU @ TEN - Houston seemed like they had a bit of everything last year now they seem like they have a bit of nothing. I'm going Titans. Even at his age, Kerry Collins is a pretty decent back up QB at this point.
ARI @ WAS - This is a pretty interesting match up, I'll go Washington at home.
NO @ DEN - I'm going Broncos as I think they are going to win the AFC West. NO is interesting and this could be a fun game to watch.
DET @ SF - Detroit is on the road, so 49ers it is.
STL @ SEA - Seahawks look pretty cruddy, but the RAMS look terrible. Seattle at home.
CLE @ BAL - I think this is a game Cleveland has to win. I'm going Browns. It will be interesting to see how Flacco does.
JAC @ IND - Colts. This game, especially in Indy is usually a pretty brutal game. Two years ago, I swear it was one of the more nasty games I have seen, there was injuries all over the place for both clubs. Fred Taylor usually has a big game against the Colts, but I think Peyton will get a couple of bombs on target.
PIT @ PHI - Good and interesting matchup, I feel Eagles in a squeaker.
DAL @ GB - Another interesting rematch from last year, I want to take the Pack, but I think Dallas wins it.
NYJ @ SD - Boy this game is a lot more interesting than usual, but I think SD is the better club.

earlnash, Friday, 19 September 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - Atlanta going over .500 this year? signs point to no, but I would assume they can get to .666 for week 3
OAK @ BUF - Buffalo looking real
TB @ CHI - Chicago looking realer; I like Forte A LOT
CAR @ MIN - Panthers; Minnesota fans may begin loud lamenting
MIA @ NE - Patriots, but closer than it should be!
CIN @ NYG - I've never seen the Giants look this good, but they still lack some killer instinct. I've never seen the Bengals look this bad.
HOU @ TEN - Titans surprisingly average offense getting the job done; a 3-0 start doesn't guarantee playoffs, but it sure is putting them in the right direction
ARI @ WAS - Arizona seems geared to ring up some crazy scores, Washington does not
NO @ DEN - What a good looking game! I'm going with Denver, but I can't say either way would surprise me.
DET @ SF - I really really don't like the niners so Detroit out of spite
STL @ SEA - St. Louis is the worst team in the league by far right now
CLE @ BAL - Cleveland or bust
JAC @ IND - Colts gettin' healthier
PIT @ PHI - I like Pittsburgh to go deep in the playoffs and slow down McNabb a bit in this one
DAL @ GB - Dallas, but under duress
NYJ @ SD - Chargers HAVE to win this, right? I mean, right?

forksclovetofu, Friday, 19 September 2008 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, this rookie class is bazonkers so far.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 19 September 2008 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I Love NFL is the only board on ILX worth reading anymore.

This is true every year.

Why the shit would MN open up the playbook for proven veteran / dead end Frerotte and not TJ?

b/c some of those reads are hard at game speed. f'realz. e.g. Shanahan's still protecting Cutler in his play-calls (this is not a bad thing, it just takes an actual month of Sundays before a QB can really start to parse the game.

That said, Trent Edwards has a green light for audibles; TJ did not. Read into that what you will.

Also LOL the Berrian play tru dat.

rogermexico., Friday, 19 September 2008 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - KC might be as miserable as the Dolphins were last year. Falcons.
OAK @ BUF - Buffalo is breathing down the Pats' necks. Bills.
TB @ CHI - A can't get a read on the NFC South since everyone looks like a .500 team, in other words pretty mediocre. Chi-town.
CAR @ MIN - You have put your faith in Gus Freotte. The Suicide Booths are now ready. Panthers.
MIA @ NE - How many weeks before Matt Cassel's mediocrity starts to sink the offense? It won't start this week though. Patsies.
CIN @ NYG - We always knew the defense was a sinkhole of suck, but now the offense is starting to slide. Giants.
HOU @ TEN - Kerry Collins to the rescue! Titans.
ARI @ WAS - Arizona is going to win the NFC West. Cards.
NO @ DEN - Broncs.
DET @ SF - Niners.
STL @ SEA - Both teams are disasters, but St. Louis is like Europe after the Black Death. Hawks.
CLE @ BAL - I really dislike the Ravens so Browns.
JAC @ IND - David Garrard has already thrown more interceptions than he did all last year. Indie.
PIT @ PHI - The Game of the Week. Pitt.
DAL @ GB - I so hope that Dallas tanks on this one. Packers.
NYJ @ SD - The reality of the Farve trade starts to set in and people realize that the Jets are at best an 8-8 team. Bolts.

leavethecapital, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

So Childress really thinks a quarterback that once injured himself by intentionally ramming his head into a cement wall give the team the tools it needs to win now?

Dirty Sanchez (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Saturday, 20 September 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - are you fucking kidding
OAK @ BUF - are you fucking kidding
TB @ CHI - Home
CAR @ MIN - Home
MIA @ NE - are you fucking kidding
CIN @ NYG - are you fucking kidding
HOU @ TEN - are you fucking kidding
ARI @ WAS - are you fucking kidding
NO @ DEN - EENIE MEENIE MINIE MOE, BREES A CUTLER BY HIS TOE. Home.
DET @ SF - GARBAGE TIME! Home.
STL @ SEA - are you fucking kidding
CLE @ BAL - are you fucking kidding
JAC @ IND - peyton manning always finds a way to win! with his new non-drunk non-idiot kicker! Wires by 2.
PIT @ PHI - uhhhhh NFC uhhhhh EAST? uhhh
DAL @ GB - AARON SKYWALKER
NYJ @ SD - never bet against a trend. #4. Sorry.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 September 2008 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - Atlanta. Somehow I think Thigpen will inspire a "Bring Back Grbac" campaign in KC.
OAK @ BUF - Despite hating them, I don't see how Buffalo loses this one. Hopefully my picking them jinxes them and they are excommunicated from the league.
TB @ CHI - Going with Chicago just cuz it's their home field.
CAR @ MIN - Carolina. Gus Frerotte will routinely overthrow his receivers on any routes run greater than 8 yards downfield, as he always does.
MIA @ NE - Pats. Even though I'm a diehard Fin fan, maybe picking against them for once will work out in my favor.
CIN @ NYG - Giants. Don't feel bad, Cincy, you weren't a good team long enough for the "Bungles" era to be a distant memory. Embrace familiarity.
HOU @ TEN - Houston. Somehow I don't think Kerry Collins has as much left in the tank as he showed last week.
ARI @ WAS - Arizona gashes Washington's usually stout defense
NO @ DEN - Denver. The stars may just be aligned this year.
DET @ SF - San Fran. If Gore gets going, game over.
STL @ SEA - Seattle. A team that is better (albeit maybe not much) than their record indicates against a team who has lost two games by an average score of 40-8.
CLE @ BAL - The output on the field will resemble someone with Down's syndrome playing Madden, but Baltimore in a probably touchdown less bore. Cleveland is going nowhere this year.
JAC @ IND - Indianapolis's offense wakes up for the first time.
PIT @ PHI - Philadelphia. Iggles showed a lot of fight against Dallas in the Keystone Kops Bowl.
DAL @ GB - Dallas. Somehow I don't think it's Rodger's time to win this one. But soon, it will be.
NYJ @ SD - San Diego is too good to go 0-3, and the Jets are hideously overrated.

Dirty Sanchez (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Sunday, 21 September 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

KC @ ATL - Atl
OAK @ BUF - Buf
TB @ CHI - Chi
CAR @ MIN - Min
MIA @ NE - NE
CIN @ NYG - NY
HOU @ TEN - Tenn
ARI @ WAS - Wash
NO @ DEN - Den
DET @ SF - SF
STL @ SEA - Sea
CLE @ BAL - CLE (pulled-straight-out-of-my-ass pick of the week)
JAC @ IND - IND (coinflip)
PIT @ PHI - Pitt
DAL @ GB - Dal
NYJ @ SD - SD

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 21 September 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

whats gonna be on the teevee

○◙genital grinder◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 September 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

For me, it's HOU @ TEN, then JAX @ IND and NO @ DEN. In other words, Ryder Cup.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link


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